Ncipher Share Discussion Threads

[outsider] 11/3/2008 08:17

Interesting

You can only sell 1000 @ 162

But you can buy 25000 @ 169 online suggest this will fall further to me.


A.fewbob......check plus markets several trades yesterday.

[a.fewbob] 11/3/2008 00:10

zero shares traded again today, why bother listing?

[the_aardvark] 10/3/2008 15:32

A new low thats very bad news

[dogdogman] 10/3/2008 08:21

It's an awful share - I got out long ago.

[a.fewbob] 05/3/2008 21:47

0 shares traded again today!

[a.fewbob] 04/3/2008 23:59

Talk about not being on anyone radar!

[a.fewbob] 04/3/2008 23:58

not a single share traded today!!! any doctors around? We need someone to sign the death certificate!

[a.fewbob] 04/3/2008 01:45

What market cap do we have ater stripping out the value of cash held? Are we in negative figures yet!??

[the_aardvark] 24/2/2008 18:03

Hopefully as results day approaches we will see some actvity with this share, otherwise down we go again

[nurdin] 23/2/2008 16:33

I had a few questions regarding the Abridean acquistion and the strategy behind it.The link below provides all the answers and is worth a read if you havent already done so :

[a.fewbob] 20/2/2008 08:36

Thanks Rivaldo.

Techinvest know good value when they see it.

[madgooner] 19/2/2008 22:37

A safe small cap is a long term bet..not short term. New Man team need to prove that the management change was not significant IMO.

one of very few longs I hold..

[rivaldo] 19/2/2008 21:51

Yep, it would have been much better if the price had moved down this month like the rest of the market.... :o))

Bit of a plug here in an article about encryption:



"The rise of storage security

With significant growth in data retention comes a need to take a fresh look at data security and ensuring stored information is kept safe and secure at all times.

Posted Ron Condon at 3:41PM, 18th February 2008

Anyone who has had their hard drive die on them, only to discover their last back-up was made 18 months ago, has learned one important aspect of storage security. But back-ups are only part of an increasingly complex picture.

Our data now resides on a variety of media and devices - from the desktop PC, to the PDA, the email server, the USB drive and even a mobile phone. It also gets transferred across networks both inside and outside the organisation that owns it. The challenge is not only to ensure the data is not lost or destroyed, but that it does not fall into the wrong hands.

As a number of recent high-profile cases have shown - at Nationwide, and Marks & Spencer, to name but two - a lost laptop computer can cause major panic if important or confidential data is sitting on its hard disk. It not only exposes personal data to potential theft, but it also makes the company in question look slapdash and unreliable.

More to the point, an increasing amount of regulation and legislation is forcing companies to protect and preserve data more effectively. The rules cover everything from personal data protection, the archiving of emails and activity logs in case of litigation, and the encryption of credit card details.

Add to that the risk of a thief or disgruntled employee copying valuable or secret information on to a USB device or even a harmless-looking iPod, and the need for a more serious approach to storage security is clear.

The role of encryption

In the wake of various security breaches, many companies have seen encryption as a silver bullet for all their ills. They believe that by forcing users to encrypt the whole of their hard disk solves the problem, which it does, but only up to a point.

For a start, encryption does not come without its own problems. It may slow down the system, and if the key is lost, the data is lost too. Key management comes with an administrative overhead which some companies may struggle to master.

"All the database vendors are building in encryption features," says Alex van Someren, the former chief executive of security vendor nCipher. "Oracle is doing it, and Windows Vista has the BitLocker feature, which allows you to scramble everything on your hard disk and then use a combination of a TPM chip and/or a USB stick as a sort of ignition key, to let you unlock the files.

"But for a big company, turning on disk encryption on every PC is a helpdesk nightmare. If you do that, it means that anyone who loses their key has effectively shredded all their data. Powerful tools have powerful risks.""

[the_aardvark] 19/2/2008 16:20

I dont understand why there is no movement at all either up or down not even a flick/blip.

[the_aardvark] 19/2/2008 14:15

Some good size buys coming n yet no rise. Why is that?

[rivaldo] 19/2/2008 07:33

AFW, NCH were one of Techinvest's ten main tips for 2008 - and when another company were downgraded they upgraded NCH to one of the Nap tips. I'll dig out more at some stage.

There's a new 4 page article here about the future of encryption co-written by NCH of some interest:

[a.fewbob] 15/2/2008 22:42

Have techinvest got these as one of their nap tips for 2008? I'd be amazed if they didn't, they are very good value with very limited down side.

[rivaldo] 14/2/2008 14:14

LOL! Buy some more then, that might do the trick :o))

If anyone ever wanted a definition of an ADVFN poster, post 998 would be it. Holding a share for a week and already bored....you have to laugh.

Results, which we know will be in line, are out on 18th March - a whole month away!

EDIT - apologies, a bit unkind. But true nevertheless :o))

[dogdogman] 14/2/2008 14:00

Bought in at beginning of last week on a T+20 (paid slightly over the asking price of 185 - I paid 187) and I must say I'm bored to tears with this share. It just doesn't budge! Also TNT reckons there have been a lot of buys recently in NCH. Well I haven't seen any! Just hope I can close my position in a couple of weeks either breaking even or with a small profit. I would have expected some share price movement by now but no such luck!

[rivaldo] 12/2/2008 11:42

More about the need for safe encryption:



"Encryption 'not enough to prevent data loss'
You have to protect the keys too, warns security expert

Clive Akass, Personal Computer World 11 Feb 2008

Encryption alone is not be enough to prevent disasters like the loss of the personal information of 25 million benefits claimants late last year, according to a leading security company.

There were many calls for sensitive data to be encrypted as a matter of routine following the loss by the HM Revenues and Customs in Newcastle of two disks containing the data. Other instances of data losses have since come to light.

Modern encryption can be regarded as unbreakable but if its use becomes common the attention of criminals will shift to the other weak links – people, and the keys used to encrypt and decrypt the data, said Richard Moulds, executive vice president of strategy at NCipher.

'Most of the information that is lost today is not actually as a result of attacks at all, it's as a result of information just simply being mislaid or lost. Clearly information needs to be encrypted as it goes over the internet because the internet's a wild and scary place,' he told a NetEvents forum in Barcelona.

But an enormous amount information in lost offline 'because back up tapes fall off the back of a truck, or laptops get left in taxicabs.'

Even if the information is lost the people responsible may have to take action on the assumption it has been stolen which can be almost as bad, Moulds said. His company made sure that even if data is stolen it is rendered useless.

This meant having a regime in place not only to encipher data but also to protect the keys. "There have been cases where people have left the keys on tapes holding the encrypted data. It may seem that searching out a key from a mass of data is like searching for a needle in a haystack but it can be done. Keys by their nature have to be random, and there are ways of identifying them."

Encryption of sensitive data on laptops is not secure enough in itself he said. The key should be held on some form of smart card, with some kind of biometric to ensure that only an authorised person is using it."