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[wig123] 08/11/2010 22:51

I want to post this up from Flicker, whom posted on the ONO thread, great encouragement and a right lift when needed most. I am sure he wont mind me repeating it here, and wish him and his wife the very best now and for the future..................







Fflicker - 6 Nov'10 - 14:24 - 12871 of 12883


Wig

My wife was diagnosed with the same last year, I was shocked and scared. She had a masectomy and all nodes removed. I decided to sell my business and retire (best decision I ever made). She has made a full recovery, even her hair has grown back thicker than it was previously, next friday she is back in hospital for the re-construction.
We have been looked after tremendously by the NHS. I wish you all the best and congratulations on the grandchild.

Flicker

[snickerdog] 08/11/2010 22:09

Wig, my thoughts are with you and the lovely Sandra, please do pass on my best wishes to her.

Although I only spent a brief amount of time in her company, I did think that she seemed like a very happy and positive woman and I hear that's what helps with these things.

Be strong and don't let it get you down either.

Don't know what else to say about these things but I'm certain that you, your kids and grandkids will excel at keeping her spirits up and making her laugh.

[wig123] 08/11/2010 20:41

HH, trouble with me is that I have been such a selfish bstd over the years and its only times like this that bring home a proper reality check. I spent a lifetime chasing a pound, and for what? for it all being taken away at a blink of an eye.

To be honest, I am more frustrated with myself and the life i have lived, than the problems now apparent, neither the missus or I feel singled out or hard done by and have accepted that this disease is indiscriminate, what it has made us realise is that we can make a difference going forward in the way we handle things and in the way we percieve wider society.

I have been reading some of the forums on the bc.org site, and to be honest I have been in tears reading some of the posts by women left to their own devices and kicked in the teeth when they are at their lowest ebb.

As Gods me maker, I pledge to make a difference, no matter how small, not only to my life but to those people not yet known to me. I dunno how Im gonna do it yet, but I swear I will do it.

[hedgehog33] 08/11/2010 20:27

For what it's worth...

We wear pink once a year at work and raise a little dosh for BC awareness in the process.

In terms of cancer overall, my Grandma died of cancer affecting her brain when I was still a young boy, I can hardly remember her and only have one black and white photo to remember her by. My Dad is still emotional when she pops up in our conversations from time to time, which is clearly sad to see even now.

As a result, I swore to subscribe to a cancer charity as soon as I was old enough, and have done so every month ever since without fail for nearly 25 years...

I know it's not enough and it never will be, but every little helps.......

ATB best Sandra.

[rockraven] 01/5/2010 23:56

"Origins; Fourteen billion years of cosmic evolution"
by Neil Degrasse Tyson




Editorial Review - Kirkus Reviews Copyright (c) VNU Business Media, Inc.
Companion volume to a PBS Nova special takes a look at the origins of life, the universe, and everything.Hayden Planetarium director Tyson and popular science writer Goldsmith (The Hunt for Life on Mars, 1997, etc.) begin with the earliest time science is capable of describing, milliseconds after the Big Bang. Essential features of our universe were laid down in that unique moment, some of which-e.g., the minuscule excess of matter over antimatter-science is still at a loss to explain. Others, including the prevalence of so-called dark matter and dark energy, have only recently come to notice. After a period of cooling, the debris began to resemble the universe we now see. Gravity, light, and matter became predominant, with galaxies and stars taking shape. The authors give clear explanations of the processes involved as far as they are understood; Tyson and Goldsmith are not afraid to admit ignorance. Within the stars, originally composed almost entirely of hydrogen and helium, the other elements of the periodic table have been synthesized by nuclear fusion and spread about the galaxies in supernova explosions. From these stellar ashes, planets and the other bodies that orbit stars have been formed. The authors give useful updates on the progress in discovery of extra-solar planets (over a hundred are currently known) and of possible abodes of life in our own solar system (Mars, Europa, and Titan are now considered the best candidates). They end with a look at current thinking on the origins of life, a question made more complex by the discovery of extremophiles, creatures that live comfortably in environments formerly considered hostile to life.An accessible and extremely well written exploration of the deep waters of cosmology, astrophysics, and exobiology.

[hithere2] 14/12/2009 14:18

So who/what made who/what?

Firstly are you really here. Well we believe we are here because we think and tell ourselves then we think/believe we are here. We think therefore we are......i think....

1) Could we be far more advanced than we think we are and are we simply living through an artificail dream/thought induced state. Induced by ourselves or one singular self (perhaps you are your own god) Maybe you normally look like a cross between a cabbage and and old fashioned alarm clock with half of what looks like a hedgehogs snout sticking outfrom your upper left side. Would knowing the answer change anything?........Oh yes....knowing changes everything....

2) Is time and gravity just an invention to keep us busy until our time runs out when in fact if we knew the truth to be that the past and future is the same and there is only the here and now, how would we react. Knowing changes everything. If there is no time then what would be the need to find a purpose? The term "A means to an end" would be nonsensical as there would be no outcome. If in your higher state of being you could invent something such as the earth, water, life and death. ( a slightly more complicted game than chess I must admit) then in that instance of thought of creation you would actually be the the creator himself could you not.


How large are we. How large is the earth? What can you compare it with when understand the possibility that fleas may have fleas that have fleas that have fleas
that have fleas
that have fleas
that have fleas
that have fleas
that have fleas
that have fleas
that have fleas
that have fleas
and so on.

What importance or impact can the earth and it's inhabitants have on the universe as we believe it to be. I believe most people are in agreement that life is for living. Therefore we could assume that the whole purpose of life is to experience everything arounds us, through our emotions and use our logic to help keep things in balance and undertanding.
Perhaps everything we go through in our life is another 'Being' not ourselves at all who has popped a pill and we are living this moment through his/her/it's thought wave/s and the world is nothing more than a figment of imagination. Why do we lose time and shut down from time to time. Why does our brain have these sleep modes, are they simply rest moments or could they be re-set modes as a game that someone else is playing and we are the pawn. What really happens to you when your brain goes into sleep mode?

Perhaps I'm straying off topic ( chemical reaction and thought waves) perhaps the world and everything connected to it is nothing more than a "thought". Would knowing this to be true change everything for you.
If it was proved to you without doubt to be true what would you do?
You have your emotions you have your imagination so you could invent something else. You have hope? perhaps you would dream up another reality.

[rockraven] 12/12/2009 19:41

I've always had doubts about the accepted concepts of space and time. I think it's possible that we are wrong in some quite fundamental way, and this is why we cannot grasp cosmic infinity. At present we have to merely accept the notion of infinity, without it making much sense. It doesn't quite fit - despite tortuous explanations. Scientists might argue that space travel - in which we rely on precise calculations for getting craft into position around distant planets - shows that our grasp of space and time is correct - otherwise those trips would not be succeeding. But as any good designer of mazes will point out, it is possible to go a long long way down a wrongly chosen path - and to be very close to the intended destination - and still find, very belatedly, that it's the wrong path. It's perhaps possible for a wrong path to be long enough and wide enough for an individual to live out an entire life within, without ever having to encounter or worry about the distant inconsistencies beyound/outside our universe. And it's perhaps possible for the whole of mankind to be doing just that. So I think there is scope for a further major discovery in this field, and/or a realisation that we've been barking up the wrong tree for a thousand years.

Immanuel Kant supposed that space and time may mark the limits of our human minds rather than those of the universe. And Nietzsche suggested that all we can know of the world is "the world as it appears to us". Or as H.G.Wells put it, neither the pig's snout nor the human brain were evolved for the purpose of discerning the ultimate truth of things.
.................

Maybe, - far from being left behind on the evolutionary ladder - micro-organisms are the dominant life form, and that we are merely their servants - their appointed carriers. That just as we are capable of programming computers with impressive levels of artificial intelligence and being very impressed with ourselves for doing so - we are blissfully oblivious to the possibility that that's exactly what we ourselves are. That the intelligence we have, and which we have so cleverly applied to achieving travel across the oceans, and through the skies, and latterly into space, is something engineered by our tiny masters who perhaps share a common intelligence system of their own which we have failed to comprehend... and that our true purpose is to unwittingly provide them with the means of transport by which they can extend their empire.

I quite like that idea! I can almost hear them chuckling..

..............

[rockraven] 14/7/2009 15:37

Origins of life on Earth?


Easy:
Invent a fantasy figure. Call him something simple, like 'God'.
Credit him with being behind it all.
Sorted.



That's the copout option of course. Suits people who don't want to think any deeper (or even to think at all). And a very handy way of fobbing off questions from kiddies.
"Daddy, where did trees come from?"
"God made them."
"Daddy, where did the rainbow come from?
"God made it."
"Daddy, where did we come from?"
"God made us."

Easy.

And that's all it takes to satisfy some folk apparently.

[bahtat] 14/7/2009 15:21

johndee

Dont keep us guessing!

Which 'god'?

There are hundreds to choose from, though none of them have ever made an appearance,...


funny that!

[johndee] 13/7/2009 23:44

God is the originator of all science and scientific discoveries that are proved correct.............Just as evolution is not true science so hell fire is not true science.......spirit creatures have no concept of pain and cannot burn....that is scientific fact just as the fact that life did not start without an intelligent designer...........

[soap] 11/3/2009 01:00

Hi DiGz,

If I remember correctly you wanted to explain how sentience, (and intelligence, volition?) may have deveolped the atheist way, i.e. without the involvement of any divine powers.
Do you still fancy having a go at it? I'm still interested in knowing how it might have been possible.

[digz] 01/12/2008 22:53

This link is for those doubters that think scientists are clueless about the origins of life. It's a thread detailing a large number of papers with a discussion on the relative merits of the various hypotheses on the origin of life.

[rockraven] 21/11/2008 15:18

Mister Glass - do you get paid by how many threads you set up? Everywhere I look!

I see your menu includes alien visitation as one of the possible scenarios. So here is a useful video looking at that

[dobcroft] 19/11/2008 09:27

?

Nobody knows, and anybody that claims to know is almost certainly wrong.

But life, just like everything else, has always been I reckon. (But I'm almost certainly wrong of course). Anybody that asks "why is there something rather than nothing?" should also ask "why should there be nothing rather than something?".

[liarspoker] 29/7/2007 12:48

I have actually ordered Security Analysis and The Interpretation of Financial Statements. :O)

The only Graham book I have is The Intelligent Investor.

Also I am pleased to see that Wells Fargo has increaded its divi by 11%. :O)

[jtcod] 29/7/2007 12:00

The 'one dollar' rule I do remember. Perhaps I should re-read it. I read it 11 years back.

[liarspoker] 29/7/2007 11:53

Hi Alison,

I buy NYSE stock through my phone broker. It's probably not the cheapest way but for some reason my last few batches have been bought at cheaper then screen price which suits me fine. :O)

JT - the Warren Buffett Way describes the future cashflow discount model although not in as much detail as I'd like. What I did like though was the example of a company creating over one dollar in market value for every dollar retained. Previously I had never used this measurement ( nor did I use employee productivity ).

[jtcod] 28/7/2007 23:19

Cheers Liars
I have read Warren Buffett Way but maybe I forgot that bit.;-)

BTW My only Lifer stock is SGI Stanley Gibbons.

What a wonderful position they are in: A 100 year reputation, the worlds strongest brand in a sector that totally relies on Trust, a 99% target market still to shoot at and they can take over the world with a hand full of offices and the Internet. Boy it gets me all excited just thinking about it.;-)

[the juggler] 28/7/2007 21:50

Liars

What is the cheapest way of purchasing stocks on the NYSE?

Regards

The Juggler :-)

[liarspoker] 28/7/2007 20:46

I like Charlie. :O)

Buffett focus' on 5 year average figures. Of course they vary from industry to industry. I have a few spreadsheets of my bank comparisons which I'll Email to you later JT ( I have 2 or 3 numbers missing and I want to fill them in before I post it to people ).

I have found a few different figures from different sources but the following link is pretty good as is The Warren Buffett Way ( although one person I recommended it too didn't like it as much as I did ).