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[barnetpeter] 04/11/2013 20:11

The price rally suggests confidence

[smithie6] 04/11/2013 13:52

"Piperpeter 30 Oct'13 - 22:37 - 3926 of 3933 0 0

How many outlets, Smithie, do you know of that stock only one type of anything?

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...most plumbers merchants for example, all the DIY stores....

eg. a professional grade metal drill . 3mm diam.
they will only stock 1 make.

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white satin paint. large size. they will only stock 1 make imo ( perhaps 1 brand and also own brand, or perhaps just 1 in total)

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radiator thermostats
Praktika and OBI ...big names in europe, only stock 1 make...and they dont sell many of those !!
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a copper pipe size reducer from 1/2" to 3/8" diameter. in-line
only 1 type

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metal ladder A type. high
one type only.

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stock costs money
it is not in a shops interest to stock a lot of competing brands...they will stock what they think will make them the most profit for the space occupied

if a shop uses twice as much space to stock competing products....the total sales will be the same....their income per m2 will be halved, they dont want that !!
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all imho

[jmf69] 04/11/2013 11:15

Next leg up

[yesrupnel] 02/11/2013 19:36

Looks like the competition is hotting up and lots of companies are getting in on the act. I think the products will be all very similar in a short space of time so it will probably mainly down to distribution - can you just buy it (esp. as its a new type of product), do other people say its good and price.

All of these are critical and if I saw a product labeled Honeywell or Siemens then I would trust that more than JSJS.

However if JSJS was available in mass consumer DIY stores, more trade type places like screwfix/wickes/selco and also Amazon (so I can read the feedback) then it has a chance.

But I think the market is going to get crowded very quickly over the next 12 months.

JSJS have delayed their boiler thermostat (which I think is a key component) until January (delays are a recurring theme for JSJS) but they do have Megaman now as their distributor and that could inspire confidence for large retail outlets. They also have Maplin distributing their lighting products but whilst that is main high street I think it will be more of a 'bloke knowing what he needs' type of purchase.

The MAX! is good (similar to JSJS) but does not have a boiler control and limited distribution (I like Conrad but its not mass market) and perhaps some restrictions in real life - see


Honeywell have a good product and NEST is a very futuristic looking device (I think designed by someone who worked with Apple and has a 'self learn' lifestyle optimisation angle which could be good.

I still think JSJS could go bust quickly ( although cash flow is improved immeasurably by Megaman now paying for stock and distribution, or it could get a decent slice of the market. Its finely balance and more likely to go bust then to be a major 10x share price bagger but I'm up 50% so far and its definitely in my 'high risk' section of my shares that I can 'afford' to loose!

[yesrupnel] 31/10/2013 16:16

Cheers JMF69 - the magazine shows that their is a whole world of automation/control out there from many suppliers - most seem to be concentrated on medium/large scale buildings.

[greenrichard] 31/10/2013 16:14

That's where the big money will be - in commercial premises not residential.

[jmf69] 31/10/2013 16:01

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[piperpeter] 30/10/2013 22:58

Or, indeed, "wide distribution of its MEGAMAN(R) products in over 90 countries throughout the world"?

Pp.

[piperpeter] 30/10/2013 22:44

Should anything be read into the inclusion of "shipment from the UK or JSJS's Chinese partner factory", in the latest RNS?

Pp.

[piperpeter] 30/10/2013 22:37

How many outlets, Smithie, do you know of that stock only one type of anything?

Pp.

[smithie6] 30/10/2013 16:08

"I have assumed that the Honeywell solution has nothing to do with JSJS."

Well, that is surely terrible news for JSJS.

Honeywell are one of the biggees for radiator thermostats...and digital heating control units.....a brand name deeply embedded in the brains of plumbers throughout Europe (and also USA I would guess)

(HWEll rad. thermostatic valves are distributed by Praktika or OBI.....big names in Europe for DIY stores)

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THey did a deal with Siemens
Are Siemens branded products available ?

(if products are not available...there will Honeywell take the market ?
...if Hwell get stocked in shops/outlets...then to try to get them to change and stock JSJS instead would be almost impossible imo....and outlets will only stock one type of remotely controlled rad. vales)

[yesrupnel] 30/10/2013 15:41

I am hoping that this is the start of a concerted rise and looking forward to the profits.

[yesrupnel] 30/10/2013 15:38

I have assumed that the Honeywell solution has nothing to do with JSJS. Except you can buy the Honeywell one now and the JSJS one supposedly in January. Not sure what the specs like-for-like are.

[smithie6] 30/10/2013 15:20

is the Honeywell system a competing system to that from JSJS or is it licensed from JSJS ??

[flasher2] 30/10/2013 14:44

up 15% and hardly any posts.

Nothing from that goober darloman today.

[jmf69] 30/10/2013 13:26

Been a good few days

[flasher2] 25/10/2013 23:17

not selling many on their ebay store??.

[buggy] 25/10/2013 12:17

JMF69,
You are right it is now showing collect in store.

Will delete previous post as that spooked me this morning when there was no option to collect in store.

I kind of keep an eye on the site for the number of products that have sold out, how quickly replenished and new stores comming on board.

[jmf69] 25/10/2013 11:48

Maplin is showing stock for collection in store

[greenrichard] 25/10/2013 11:03

buggy - wasn't this partly answered in the last RNS

The Company is in receipt of orders to the value of USD 238,000 for shipments direct from the Chinese factory for deliveries as soon as practicable and expects to receive orders in excess of GBP 100,000 for delivery from the UK during October, with a view to Megaman taking over distribution to all UK customers from 01 November 2013.One exception will be the existing store roll out to Maplin, which will be transferred at a later date.

[yesrupnel] 25/10/2013 10:50

New Honeywell system is also planned for Jan 2014.

[yesrupnel] 25/10/2013 09:35

Have you seen how easy British Gas have made ordering the new remote control Hive thermostat? All online for £199 including installation from an fitter.

That is how you make it simple, easy for the customer

JSJS Megaman need to come up with a pretty good product with great advertising and ease of installation to beat that - especially at only £199.

Even if you don't make the £150 savings each year - say just £50 then it still only takes 4 years to pay it off and the big deal for most people is that you have the convenience to switch on/off your heating during that time.

Surely it will be standard soon to have this fitted with all new boilers?