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HFT Hend.Fledge.Tst

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10 May 2024 - Closed
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Posted at 20/3/2017 15:51 by praipus
Curious, shows how few people investing in Hedge funds know what they're doing. The Big Short" should be a must read or must view for any Hedge fund investor.

"The Big Short" is a true tory about three hedge funds who traded through 2008.

There are lots of clips on Youtube and some spoiler type summaries. You will enjoy it but ut will distort your view of what investing means:)
Posted at 02/3/2017 10:29 by praipus
So what is the answer? Have you read Benjamin Graham's Intelligent Investor?
Posted at 26/2/2017 15:34 by shroder
The futures fund seems to have a very poor performance relative to indexes and so on.

Trying to catch tops of over extended trends could be expensive, Dow/S & P is a good example of this.

Praipus, some years ago I spent quite (too much) bit of time researching and back testing various trading models, the only one which I felt showed some merit was based around the 'Turtle' system.

The system was designed by Richard Dennis way back when people used Lotus for spreadsheets. It became the focus of attention after Richard publicly bet a huge sum of money that traders could be taught and were not necessarily born (traders).

After the bet had expired the recruits went on to start their own funds many of which have become very successful in their own right.

From memory, I think the story is covered somewhere in 'Market Wizards' - recommended reading for any investor.
Posted at 28/9/2012 11:37 by praipus
Dan Loeb's Third Point Offshore Investors Limited










In the process of collecting a 19-28% stake in DCI at 19p interims NAV €1.40 = £1.11 share price 20p!
Posted at 30/8/2012 14:51 by squirrel888
Praipus,

I have been rather in the Velvetide camp where trading used to be quite enjoyable but that was over a decade ago now. I have made investments since the 2008 crash and most came good but aside from the odd one I did not venture back in.

I may well have been very badly burned by my PMK investment - time still ticks for that one but I doubt very much that shorters are in the same position as me today - they should have profited handsomely from that disaster. However it could turn a corner.

I've dabbled with FTSE100 companies but again I refuse to stay in very long (more than a year or so) because of the macro-economics. If there's a divi paid then it's a bonus on top of any profits but it certainly hasn't changed my life at all.

Now I realise it's a mugs game - trading that is. Maybe one or two trades every couple of months now and I never re-invest - usually sit on the sidelines and wait.

I would say that once in a while every PI can get lucky - really lucky and get a multi-bag rise but one must ask oneself if it's a real valuation ever?

I am now actually favouring the work ethic once again - I've worked since I was 13yrs old (I've had a couple of years off in my working life-time) and I am now back in the throws of working and actually enjoying it.

Trading is not something I shall risk the majority of my cash on right now. The markets aren't free and far from fair. Fundamentals mean nothing.

THIS investor is now ultra-cautious. My cash may get devalued over time but I do wonder whether it might be at a slower pace than watching my portfolio get diseminated and be totally helpless about it - whether its the fault of computers or the lack of regulation. I know I can't win.
Posted at 28/8/2012 10:24 by velvetide
The aspect of hft which is being overlooked is that I as a private would read the signals from the charts to verify my reasoning to buy or sell a share.

As the short to medium term charts are now merely a reflection of computer generated patterns, probability tricks, etc, there is now no verifying information available.

This verification is of course necessary due to the deficit of information a private investor has over the city. A private investor's purchase against the trend is rarely a winning trade.

Hence the private investor is gradually being driven away from short and medium terms trading and probably therefore away from trading all together (it has been drummed into us that buy and hold is dead - which is probably true for a majority of investments.

That is the case for me, I will now probably select a handful of attractive long term opportunities to invest in and check them once a year.


Last year I probably made 10 to 20 trades every day, now I don't trade at all. One of the reasons I initially stopped was because I was not able to easily get sell quotes into upward spikes.

This was on top of an increasing difficulty of getting any quote at all as the hft information flood into my level 2 was preventing me getting quotes from my market maker (my broadband is very fast) - often it would take a minute or longer to get a uk buy or sell quote. A bit of a paradox considering the arguments put in favour of hft - instead - floods of liquidity preventing trading at all...or perhaps only allowing me to trade when it suits them?

Only being allowed to trade selectively against a chaotic backdrop is not for the rational.

So its goodbye from me, rather sadly, I did enjoy it a lot once.
Posted at 06/8/2012 09:09 by squirrel888
All it would take is for PI's/Retail Investors to wake up to the fact that "stop losses" are being used as a weapon against them. Don't use stop losses and set high sell limits. It really is that simple.

Why let "computers" steal off us?
Posted at 05/5/2011 14:34 by praipus
SOROS SELLS GOLD, STEEP DROP TARNISHES SILVER

George Soros, among other prominent investors, has heavily sold gold and silver the past month or so after buying furiously for much of the past two years, sources tell The Wall Street Journal.
Posted at 28/2/2011 13:56 by seekerofvalue
Here is the article that prompted my investment in PTM

I am an Orcadian. I am a novice investors and so follow mainly guru investors that have shown that they can make shrewd investments long-term in good and bad market conditions.
I also hold a small number of UK stocks such as MML, CHAR, FSG, XPP and PAF. Until last week I also held DOM. Please note that I only got into those stocks because of dasv, simon gordon and c2i on the SHA thread. Followed by the fact the stocks also have some institutional investors.
Posted at 25/1/2011 12:50 by praipus
The purpose of this thread is to track hedge fund activities for us (Private Investors) mutual benefit. If you know of, follow or just track a hedge fund you think is of interest I will designate one particular post to their holdings and activities and keep an index in the header.

Post----------------------Hedge Fund
1.------------------------Soros/Quantum Partners LP
2.------------------------Paulson & Co
3.------------------------David Einhorn
35.-----------------------Ray Dalio/Bridgewater Associates
108.----------------------Odey Asset Management
114.----------------------Dan Loeb's Third Point Offshore Investors Limited
146.----------------------AQR
37.-----------------------Other Hedge Funds

29.-----------------------Hedge Fund News URL's

For systematic value investment strategy funds
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