Futura Medical Share Discussion Threads

[joestalin] 02/5/2023 10:20

All very sad....

[lbo] 02/5/2023 10:19

Again nope!

‘overall tadalafil showed a greater improvement in erectile function than MED3000’

A medical device placebo arousal gel is not even in the same class as Oral PDE5I drugs. And oral PDE5I drugs have proven efficacy over oral placebos unlike Med3000 which has no proven efficacy over any arousal gel in any adequately controlled and blinded study

So all the competition to Eroxon is any arousal gel that is also rubbed in and can replicate all the same medical device stimulation and placebo effects!

‘If you don't want side effects use’ any similar arousal gel made of the same alcohol, glycol, water and carbomer ingredients for a lot less per ml then Med3000/Eroxon. But also don’t forget Med3000 did give side effects too like burning and headaches!

Even the market analysts know that all Futura have done is allow any company claim their lubricants/arousal gels are ‘clinically proven’ placebo treatments for psychological ED



Reckitt Benckiser was the defined leader and the ultimate four Personal lubricant vendors with leading brands such as Durex Play and K-Y Jelly.

KEY GROWTH FACTORS

Increasing prevalence of erectile dysfunction

9 Market Growth Enablers
9.1 Increasing Prevalence of Erectile Dysfunction




A placebo is anything that seems to be a "real" medical treatment -- but isn't. It could be a pill, a shot, or some other type of "fake" treatment. What all placebos have in common is that they do not contain an active substance meant to affect health


So any arousal gels can replicate all the associated Med3000 placebo benefits the rampers list. Especially in psychogenic ED sufferers who already reported responding to manual massage. Just like the inclusion criteria in the FM57 deficient test design selected for!


Now competitors like Reckitt can also sell lubricants/arousal gels as ‘clinically proven’ placebo treatments for ED. And report Med3000 to the ASA, FTC etc for being misleading if it doesnt inform consumers that Med3000 itself has no proven effect in ED beyond a placebo gel. As it has not proven efficacy beyond a placebo gel in a adequately controlled study or even against any standard cooling lubricant/arousal gel



Placebo-nomics: how bad was what Nurofen did?

Australian courts have ordered the makers of the brand to stop repackaging identical painkillers for different pains where does marketing end and deception begin?

Lies come in a wide range of ethical shapes and sizes. There are white ones, diplomatic ones, and there are mean, self-serving ones. Apparently there are even nice, Christmassy ones.

The Australian federal court yesterday ordered the drug giant Reckitt Benckiser to stop selling identical products marketed as specific Nurofen varieties for back pain, period pain, migraine pain and tension headaches. The company admitted the drugs sold in different coloured packets all contained the same active ingredient: 342mg of ibuprofen lysine. It also sold them at almost twice the price of Nurofens standard ibuprofen products.
Whether this constitutes deception or just marketing is probably one for the lawyers to argue over. Whatever its called, such practices might appear to fall pretty unequivocally towards the self-serving whopper end of the scale

[lbo] 02/5/2023 09:51

And lets no forget that even the lowest possible of dose of Tadalafil 5mg was still proven overall more effective then Eroxon even in the deficient FM71 test!




MHRA reclassifies Cialis Together tablets to a Pharmacy medicine





And if I wanted to use a placebo male arousal gel like Eroxon. Then I would choose one with the same alcohol, water, glycol and carbomer ingredients but for a lot less per ml! ROFLMAO





www.beautybay.com/p/the-u/arousal-gel/

water-based warming gel

Ingredients Stimulant Gel Aqua, Glycerin, Propylene Glycol, Alcohol Denat, Carbomer



Kama Sutra Intensify Plus

Female Arousal Gel Cooling 15 ml

Ingredients: Water, Propylene Glycol, Denatured Alcoho

[lbo] 02/5/2023 09:21

Nope! Just like you admitted you keep eating red meat and drinking alcohol! Why dont you eat red meat substitutes and drink alcohol substitutes and just believe they are the same!? Much healthier if that’s what you are really worried about!?

mikethebike4 - 25 Mar 2022 - 17:10:58 - 10986 of 18541
most of the alcohol side effects are what I am after (in moderation) followed by a medium rare steak plus chips


The irony is alcohol and red meat are associated with all the adverse effects you list but you keep ingesting alcohol and red meat!? All those nasty side effects from Alcohol yet people like you keep ingesting it!?



Eating Red Meat Associated With an Increased Risk of Death





alcohol contributes to around three million deaths worldwide per year. That is about five percent of all deaths each year.

[broomrigg] 02/5/2023 08:16

Love a BLUE start.....thicko Glavey crying :-)

[glavey] 02/5/2023 02:24

"Previous ED treatments can take up to an hour to work, potentially destroying any intimacy."

And if Eroxon, a placebo with no 'active ingredient' can function for anyone (let alone anyone who actually suffers from E.D.) in 10 minutes then so could sildenafil, tadalafil, vardenafil and avanafil if taken as a placebo - all it would need would be "works in 10 minutes" statements and similar written on the box.

Then there's the cooling and warming perception. 25 quid for that. Four ice cubes could do similar. Or any number of other gels available at the local pharmacy for those who wish to part with some money - at least you would get significantly larger pack.

For those actually suffering from E.D., if a placebo works for you, great. Maybe the question you need ask yourself is why a placebo works for you and if it will continue to do so, even if there are negative reports in future.

How did all those who raved about Blue Diamond survive when it 'vanished'?

[lbo] 01/5/2023 19:13

JoeStalin - 22 Jan 2018 - 11:16:41 - 3640 of 17304

Only a clown thinks selling a few packs at all makes for a business.




2013


Chemist shops sold out of new treatment three times since product came out in June
flying off pharmacy shelves at the rate of 15,000 tubes a week



Flexiseq, an innovative topical pain product that has sales of more than 3 million units since its U.K. launch last year.



In 2017, PBB was on the verge of bankruptcy, because it could not pay interest on the loan of 15 million pounds, taken in 2015 by the Canadian Knight Therapeutics.

[lbo] 01/5/2023 19:06

Just logged into all the websites and retailers that used to sell CSD500 and PET500. But they are no longer for sale even after all the positive spin when they launched! And wrong yet again that I sold for under 10p! Far from it! ROFLMAO

[lbo] 01/5/2023 18:57

And Liberum clearly says ˜other potential sources of income’

Like a convertible loan death spiral! Like Flexiseq did! LOL

Death-Spiral Convertible Financier Has a Lot of Fun





REGENCY VIEW:

The launch of Eroxon is a pivotal moment, but before investors get too excited its important to keep in mind Futuras flaccid financials:

Futura has been burning through cash for several years and has a relatively small ˜cash runway’ based on its current free cash flow.

Whilst cashflow should significantly improve as Eroxon is rolled out, investors are likely to be diluted when Futura inevitably recapitalise.



‘Because when somebody is running something that is semi fraudulent. They are probably pretty good at it. And they are working full time at it’



The Berkshire Hathaway CEO went on to say shorting overvalued stocks is also tricky because "people that have overvalued stocks... Are frequently on some scale between promoter and crook. And that's why they get there." He went on to add:

"And they also know how to use that very valuation to bootstrap value into the business, because if you have a stock that's selling at 100 that's worth 10, obviously it's to your interest to go out and issue a whole lot of shares. And if you do that, when you get all through, the value can be 50.

In fact, there's a lot of chain letter-type stock promotions that are sort of based on the implicit assumption that the management will keep doing that.

because if you have a stock that's selling at 100 that's worth 10, obviously it's to your interest to go out and issue a whole lot of shares. And if you do that, when you get all through, the value can be 50.

And if they do it once and build it to 50 by issuing a lot of shares at 100 when it's worth 10, now the value is 50 and people say, "Well, these guys are so good at that. Let's pay 200 for it or 300," and then they could do it again and so on"

According to Buffett, if you get caught up in one of these stock promotion schemes,"you can run out of money before the promoter runs out of ideas."

[lbo] 01/5/2023 18:55

Very long way to go to build a placebo male arousal gel into a long term sustainable brand with regular repeat customers! Especially when there is still no enforceable patent. So anyone can launch their own based on the Voltaren vehicle ingredients being the the same! Or as Futura openly admitted in the results. They will need to ‘work hard’ to try turn it ‘into a long term, profitable and trusted brand."



2013

Chemist shops sold out of new treatment three times since product came out in June

flying off pharmacy shelves at the rate of 15,000 tubes a week



The secured loan of US$15 million, which matures on June 25, 2018, will bear interest at 12% per annum plus other additional consideration. The interest rate will decrease to 10% if Pro Bono Bio meets certain equity-fundraising targets. The loan is secured by a charge over the assets of Pro Bono Bio and its affiliates which includes but is not limited to Flexiseq, an innovative topical pain product that has sales of more than 3 million units since its U.K. launch last year.




In 2017, PBB was on the verge of bankruptcy, because it could not pay interest on the loan of 15 million pounds, taken in 2015 by the Canadian Knight Therapeutics.

[lbo] 01/5/2023 18:43

‘ Hahaha’!!! Indeed!

Silly little multi-ID ramper didn’t read the RNS ‘Eroxon(R) is now available from boots.com and is being rolled out in store’

Seems yet again the multi-ID ramper is proven wrong ‘ doesn't know the difference between 'being stocked by Boots' and Boots online’

Yet all his multi-ID mate’s are reporting its not available in store. Claiming its sold out!

Yet how long were they telling us about ‘manufacturing capacity’?

ROFLMAO

[lbo] 01/5/2023 18:40

ROFLMAO

The multi-ID ramper proven wrong yet again. The same post has been repeated for over a year now!

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[petroc] 01/5/2023 18:06

Hahaha! Silly little LiarBO doesn't know the difference between 'being stocked by Boots' and Boots online marketplace, which hasn't even opened yet. What a loser!

[lbo] 01/5/2023 16:48

petroc 1 May '23 - 16:08 - 18519 of 18523

‘Boots are a different matter entirely’


The Multi-ID ramper proven wrong yet again!! ROFLMAO







Launching in Spring 2023, Boots Marketplace will allow brands of any size to seamlessly list their products on boots.com



Product revenue represents net invoice less estimated volume discounts, which are considered to be variable consideration and include significant estimates. Other variable considerations such as milestone payments and royalties are not recognised in full until it is highly probable that a significant reversal in the amount of cumulative revenue recognised will not occur. In management’s opinion, that will be when the Group’s customer confirms that the milestone has been met or that a royalty is due



a agreed percentage of the net sales value (after transport costs, sales tax, credit notes for returns and defective products and any settlement, retrospective, volume and promotional discounts) charged by LRC or any sub-licensee in relation to the Product.

The royalty and the royalty advance may be reduced by such amount (if any) as is agreed or determined by an expert to be fair and reasonable if: (i) any patent application does not proceed to grant or any patent rights are determined to be unenforceable or are revoked or lapse; or (ii) an event occurs which in LRC reasonable opinion adversely affects the commercial viability of the licence agreement or the margins on sales of the Product; or (iii) a competing product is offered

[lbo] 01/5/2023 16:45

Its a case of wash, rinse and repeat! LOL


loobrush - 13 May 2014 - 14:01:03 - 9696 of 11722

EPIC spray out of stock at AMAZON-is it all sold out?


superg1 - 27 Jan 2014 - 07:23:44 - 9314 of 11722

Well it reads well re the launch in stores throughout the US and online. It will obvious who they have launched with once it's for sale, but I would imagine that will mean another rns when it launches anyway stating who it is.

Interesting that Ansell will be promoting it individually and as a package.

Green Web sold out in quick time so it will be interesting to see how well it goes on a full launch.

superg1 - 21 Jan 2014 - 19:22:44 - 9300 of 11722
A post on iii today.

Some will know what it is all about

After contacting Green web the Amazon the retailers of PET500 I have been told that they "bought every available unit offered by the suppliers". They are keen to get more stock. I made no pretence as to my identity although avoided mentioning I was a FUM investor in my enquiries and simply asked why it was no longer being offered and why the online reviews were allocated. I was asked " Do you work for Ansell? We are extremely interested in continuing to carry the EPIC spray product."

I believe the major U.S. retailers Amazon and others are competing to offer the product for the follow-on 'major' launch. I always try to manage my own expectations and therefore had assigned EPIC as a useful peripheral product in terms of driving revenues. I think there are signs that EPIC could turn out to be a more than 'useful' revenue generator for FUM.


Looks like punters are desperate for the product, one on ebay apparently sold for $419 (from iii)

[petroc] 01/5/2023 16:29

He always thought he was 'The Big I Am' when it came to investing. When he turned up on this board, he announced himself by telling everyone what Leveraged Buy Out (LBO) meant. That post is still there in the mists of time, about 20 years ago. He accompanied his posts with an avatar of Gordon Gecko, and posted a lot of stuff about his various investments, so to make that schoolboy error and investing more than he could afford to lose in FUM really knocked the wind out of his sails, and made him what he is today, the snivelling little stock basher who changed his avatar from Gordon Gecko into his little advert for Blue Diamond, i.e. CSD500. His version of a hair shirt, I suppose.

[beanol] 01/5/2023 16:17

Thanks Petroc Makes sense. I can see though if you've been bitten in the bum by a failed product it would embitter and possibly blind you to the present day bleeding obvious. Fortunately (?!) this product has no chance of standing still in the current circumstances. I haven't looked into the finances of the company but will do. I checked the main senior staff and most seem to have pretty good cvs. And you are right about Boots too. I just don't understand the level of emotion and vitriol into what should be a pretty level headed sensible discussion.