Futura Medical Share Discussion Threads

[joestalin] 14/4/2023 11:05

All very sad....

[petroc] 14/4/2023 10:47

Still waiting for LiarBO to explain one of his lies from yesterday:


'Spot the big fat fly lie on Petrocs BS placebo arousal gel '˜form of fraud'! ROFLMAO

hxxps://www.pharma-mkting.com/blog/no-goopy-ed-gel-in-gsks-futura/


petroc - 06 Nov 2019 - 13:22:07 - 6320 of 17459

The fly in the ointment is the possible high level of positive reaction to placebo'

Nope, still can't see a lie in there. Obviously that quote was from just before P3 results, and as it turned out I called it exactly right, there was a high level of positive reaction to the placebo, and P3 was deemed a failure. So where's the lie, LiarBO? Are you so obsessed with copying what I write about you that you tie yourself into knots trying to bend the facts to your lies? Just give up, you're making yourself look more and more desperate and stupid every day.'

[petroc] 14/4/2023 10:40

Doh! I forgot that LiarBO knows more than anyone else in the world about paracetamol, just like he does about Eroxon!

Meanwhile, real experts say this:

How does paracetamol work?
Paracetamol has been in use for more than 70 years. The way it works to reduce pain and fever is not fully understood.
hxxps://www.healthdirect.gov.au/paracetamol

Scientists are still learning exactly how paracetamol works. Paracetamol is thought to reduce the intensity of pain signals to the brain and reduce fever. Unlike non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs), paracetamol has minimal effect in relieving inflammation. This is an important consideration as some types of body pain (like osteoarthritis pain) are caused by inflammation.
hxxps://www.nurofen.com.au/pain-advice/about-nurofen/what-is-paracetamol/

The action of paracetamol at a molecular level is unclear but could be related to the production of reactive metabolites by the peroxidase function of COX-2, which could deplete glutathione, a cofactor of enzymes such as PGE synthase.


Surprisingly despite our advanced levels of understanding about how drugs work, the exact mechanism of action of paracetamol is poorly understood.
hxxps://www.drmortons.co.uk/blog/paracetamol/

Yet another example of the lying stock basher arguing that black is white. How can anyone possibly believe a word he says with such a catalogue of lying?

[lbo] 14/4/2023 10:27

https://www.fdli.org/2023/02/ftc-and-nad-remind-industry-of-their-authority-over-all-health-product-advertising-including-rx/FTC and NAD Remind Industry of Their Authority Over All Health Product Advertisinghttps://www.seattletimes.com/life/wellness/a-new-threat-to-advertisers-making-sketchy-health-claims/?amp=1A new threat to advertisers making sketchy health claimshttps://brandingstrategyinsider.com/truth-in-advert/https://www.beingpatient.com/does-neuriva-plus-work-brain-health-supplement/https://news.bloomberglaw.com/product-liability-and-toxics-law/neuriva-brain-booster-8-million-false-ad-deal-gets-early-nodcompanies deceptively touted"clinically proven" Class members with proof of purchase are eligible to recover up to $65. Those without proof may recover up to $20.The companies also agreed to change all references from "clinically proven" and "science proved" on Neuriva labeling and ancillary marketing to "clinically tested" and "science tested" or other similar language.Magistrate Judge Jonathan Goodman of the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida granted preliminary approval April 23.Plaintiffs' attorneys will seek up to $2.9 million for fees and expenses. They will also seek incentive awards up to $2,000 each for five class representatives.

[lbo] 14/4/2023 10:22

LOLMore lies and misinformation from Petroc the proven liar. https://www.rxlist.com/how_does_acetaminophen_work/drug-class.htmAcetaminophen blocks pain by inhibiting the synthesis of prostaglandin, a natural substance in the body that initiates inflammation. Acetaminophen reduces fever by acting on the hypothalamus region of the brain which regulates temperature.Meanwhile MED3000 just works by ˜magic' and or possibly some sort of disputed CIVD mechanism or possibly by some evaporative hocus pocus

[petroc] 14/4/2023 08:50

'Even Trinity Research who are paid by Futura has contradicted the multi ID rampers lies and had to openly admit the hypothesised effects ‘believes̵7; to be happening by Futura are ‘disputed̵7;'

...stated the lying stock basher, LiarBO. Eminent scientists are still 'disputing' how paracetamol works, but nobody doubts its efficacy.

[petroc] 13/4/2023 22:42

Hahaha! LiarBO says 'all your proven lies' and doesn't offer a shred of evidence, just like all his lying claims that Eroxon doesn't work! What a scammer! He thinks just saying the word 'proven' means the case is closed! In fact it just shows him up for the charlatan that he is.

[lbo] 13/4/2023 18:48

Just like all your claimed ‘FACTS’. Just more and more proven lies. And here Futura are over a year later and still no enforceable patent. Ironic you said ‘soon’ and Joe said everything with Futura is measured in ‘decades’! LOL

petroc - 21 Jan 2022 - 18:03:42 - 10541 of 10710
What is not to love Eroxon /MED3000 - HERE ARE THE FACTS

- Patent application in progress using patent lawyers - COMING SOON

- Eroxon® is clinically proven to treat erectile dysfunction


So Med3000 also will never have FDA approval to claim its ‘clinically proven’. Even the implied claim that it is “clinically proven’ beyond a a placebo is a false claim according to the FTC. As Med3000/Eroxon cannot substantiate that claim with any adequately controlled and blinded study against even a standard arousal gel



Clinically proven ‘Says who’

When they say ‘clinically proven’ your first question should be, oh yeah, says who?

It is possible the company selling the supplement, infomercial ab gadget, or balance device did a poorly controlled study where they had people try the product and then tell the company about their results.

While this seems logical enough, it does not constitute legitimate research.

So Med3000 will never have FDA approval to make any claims of an effect beyond placebo. Especially just using the De Novo medical device least burdensome route to market and not carrying out any adequately controlled and blinded studies to substantiate claims of any effect beyond a placebo. Only drugs can claim FDA approval and Med3000 is not a drug. Its just a low class medical device!

And I am not expecting you to answer why you said FACT patent coming but now over one year later still no update on any enforceable patent for Med3000/Eroxon!

So basically if any pharma company or lubricant company like Reckitt can launch their own placebo arousal Erectile gels made of alcohol, water, glycol and carbomer! Even Pfizer could launch a similar arousal gel under its already established Viagra brand and claims like Futura its placebo gel is ‘clinically proven’ to have an effect in Psychological ED in deficient tests!

ROFLMAO



Lillys CIALIS patent claims extending to physiologically acceptable salt found invalid for overbreadth and insufficiency



“TPR100 gave similar results to the gold standard, Voltarol 2% gel’



The cooling effect of a topically applied product can be evaluated using a validated handheld thermal imaging system. When the gel matrix is destroyed after application to the skin, the bound water and alcohol evaporates and a measurable cooling-effect results. Consumer satisfaction with a topical product is based on subjective criteria such as how the product feels and how it is perceived on the skin. Therefore, appropriate questionnaires are of major importance for cosmetic products to assess the subjective perception not only of soothing and cooling effects but also of moisturizing properties and fragrance.



A key element of Futura Medicals strategy is to reduce development risk through using well characterised existing agents that are reformulated with its proprietary DermaSys technology to create new products. This means intellectual property protection is limited to use patents for the individual products and umbrella patents for the technology. There is a risk that some claims will either be challenged in future (eg on the grounds of non-obviousness or existence of prior art) and/or that another technology may be employed to achieve a similar effect

[petroc] 13/4/2023 16:54

Stop evading the question and point out the lie, LiarBO.


'Spot the big fat fly lie on Petrocs BS placebo arousal gel ‘form of fraud’! ROFLMAO

hxxps://www.pharma-mkting.com/blog/no-goopy-ed-gel-in-gsks-futura/


petroc - 06 Nov 2019 - 13:22:07 - 6320 of 17459

The fly in the ointment is the possible high level of positive reaction to placebo’'

Nope, still can't see a lie in there. Obviously that quote was from just before P3 results, and as it turned out I called it exactly right, there was a high level of positive reaction to the placebo, and P3 was deemed a failure. So where's the lie, LiarBO? Are you so obsessed with copying what I write about you that you tie yourself into knots trying to bend the facts to your lies? Just give up, you're making yourself look more and more desperate and stupid every day.'

[lbo] 13/4/2023 15:29

Trinity even mentioned all this buried in its initiation research before MED2002 failed at phase 3 in FM57. So to make efficacy claims for the placebo/Med3000 based on the results of the failed FM57 phase 3 is as the ASA ruling on similar placebo drug free gels a ‘false positive’ ‘post hoc’ finding.

Especially as ˜the studys structure and measurements’ were designed to build in more bias with the non standard inclusion criteria and produce quote ˜better’ ˜more meaningful results’






˜the lessons learned from performing FM53, and the subsequent changes to the studys structure and measurements, suggest that the results generated by FM57 should be better than those seen before’

˜coupled with tighter definitions of primary endpoints and tight patient selection, should produce more meaningful results’




Cant I just take a tablet?

‘If you can get an erection in one situation and not the other, you do not need Viagra’

So via the non standard inclusion criteria in FM57 they only included men who already reported getting an erection with mechanical stimulation. So they could already get an erection in one situation! So if the organic issue that Viagra counteracts is ruled out by the inclusion criteria then the man doesnt need to wait for viagra to work! He just needs more arousal, or just a placebo, or he needs CBT/psychotherapy to find out what is underlying the psychological issues. And any placebo arousal gel will work that he believe will work! Including a cooling lubricant or arousal gel.

[joestalin] 13/4/2023 15:22

You just done woke up the gimp!

[petroc] 13/4/2023 12:10

I must admit, LiarBO's little quiz has got me stumped:

'Spot the big fat fly lie on Petrocs BS placebo arousal gel ‘form of fraud’! ROFLMAO

hxxps://www.pharma-mkting.com/blog/no-goopy-ed-gel-in-gsks-futura/


petroc - 06 Nov 2019 - 13:22:07 - 6320 of 17459

The fly in the ointment is the possible high level of positive reaction to placebo’'

Nope, still can't see a lie in there. Obviously that quote was from just before P3 results, and as it turned out I called it exactly right, there was a high level of positive reaction to the placebo, and P3 was deemed a failure. So where's the lie, LiarBO? Are you so obsessed with copying what I write about you that you tie yourself into knots trying to bend the facts to your lies? Just give up, you're making yourself look more and more desperate and stupid every day.

[lbo] 12/4/2023 18:20

Funny how Petroc the proven ramper and liar reacts when being caught out lying and scamming again. His defence is always med3000/Eroxon is above the law and substantiation principles applied by the FTC, the ASA and the courts! Doesn't he realise how transparent and nonsensical that sounds, a proven ramper and trying to pretend low class medical devices can make any claims they want. And why would he regulatory bodies like the ASA or FTC have anything yet to say about FUM or MED3000? Its not for sale yet in the UK and has not been registered as a medical device yet in the USA. He's a total fool and a scammer trying to ramp FUM stock, because he made such bad investment decision to buy into the ‘placebo gel frenzy’ and now needs to sell out before the market realises it will never sell enough to justify the current Futura Market Cap.petroc - 23 Nov 2022 - 18:00:42 - 14168 of 14546I won't care, of course, because I'll have moved on,'So yes the multi-iD ramper claims are a breach of the CAP code and are deliberately misleading.Medical device claims that breach CAP Code (Edition 12) rules 3.1 (Misleading advertising), 3.7 (Substantiation) and 12.1 Medicines, medical devices‘Because the trial was not placebo-controlled’˜had not provided adequate evidence to support the claim ‘clinically proven’ ˜concluded that the claim had not been substantiated and was misleading’https://www.asa.org.uk/rulings/actegy-ltd-g20-1053158-actegy-ltd.htmlAssessmentUpheldThe ASA noted that the product appeared to meet the requirements of the Medical Device Directive (MDD) but understood that the MDD did not harmonise EU law relating the advertising of medical devices, which was subject to Directive 2005/29/EC on unfair business to consumer commercial practices (including advertising) generally (Unfair commercial practices directive - UCPD). That meant that advertisers must still meet the requirements of the CAP Code, which reflected the provisions of UCPD. Under the CAP and BCAP Codes, medical claims could be made for CE-marked medical devices provided they complied with other requirements of the Codes, including those relating to substantiation.CE certification in itself does not constitute evidence for medical efficacy claims, and advertisers need to ensure that they hold evidence for such claims.There was no statistically significant difference between the outcomes for the treatment group (patients using the Aerosure device) and the control group (using an inactive sham device). The study was accordingly not adequate evidence of the efficacyhttps://pocketdentistry.com/asa-ruling-on-orthoaccel-technologies-inc-ta-acceledent/Because the trial was not placebo-controlled, we considered AcceleDent had not provided adequate evidence to support the claim AcceleDent, is also clinically proven to reduce the pain and discomfort associated with braces and aligners by up to 71%. We concluded that the claim had not been substantiated and was misleading.On that point the claim breached CAP Code (Edition 12) rules 3.1 (Misleading advertising), 3.7 (Substantiation) and 12.1 Medicines, medical devices, health-related products and beauty products.https://www.asa.org.uk/rulings/actegy-ltd-g20-1053158-actegy-ltd.htmlAssessmentUpheldThe ASA noted that the product appeared to meet the requirements of the Medical Device Directive (MDD) but understood that the MDD did not harmonise EU law relating the advertising of medical devices, which was subject to Directive 2005/29/EC on unfair business to consumer commercial practices (including advertising) generally (Unfair commercial practices directive - UCPD). That meant that advertisers must still meet the requirements of the CAP Code, which reflected the provisions of UCPD. Under the CAP and BCAP Codes, medical claims could be made for CE-marked medical devices provided they complied with other requirements of the Codes, including those relating to substantiation.CE certification in itself does not constitute evidence for medical efficacy claims, and advertisers need to ensure that they hold evidence for such claims.There was no statistically significant difference between the outcomes for the treatment group (patients using the Aerosure device) and the control group (using an inactive sham device). The study was accordingly not adequate evidence of the efficacy