Futura Medical Share Discussion Threads

[lbo] 14/1/2023 17:54

So the FTC, ASA and Courts are ‘scammers’ because they apply the wider scientific and academic community principles of substantiation of an effect beyond a placebo to medical devices!? That’s a serious accusation from the rampers! Perhaps even a libellous claim by the rampers that the FTC is not allowing them ‘harm’ and swindle’ consumers so they can just profit off them being misled!



Selling brass as gold harms consumers independent of any effect on pain. Since the placebo effect can be obtained from sugar pills, charging $200 for a device that is repre- sented as a miracle cure but works no better than a dummy pill is a form of fraud. Thats not all. A placebo is necessary when scientists are searching for the marginal effect of a new drug or device, but once the study is over a reputable professional will recommend whatever works best.

Medicine aims to do better than the placebo effect, which any medieval physician could achieve by draining off a little of the patients blood. If no one knows how to cure or ameliorate a given condition, then a placebo is the best thing going. Far better a placebo that causes no harm (the Q-Ray Ionized Bracelet is inert) than the sort of nostrums peddled from the back of a wagon 100 years ago and based on alcohol, opium, and wormwood. But if a condition responds to treatment, then selling a placebo as if it had therapeutic effect directly injures the con- sumer. See Kraft, Inc. v. FTC, 970 F.2d 311, 314 (7th Cir. 1992) (a statement violates the FTC Act “if it is likely to mislead consumers, acting reasonably under the cir- cumstances, in a material respect

[petroc] 14/1/2023 16:49

'BRING THE PRICE DOWN. That is the Basher's
job. The truth is not important. Lies are the norm. Post
continuously on the board every day. They are trying to scare
the newbies that are just investigating a stock. They are trying
to wear down the faithful longs on the board and gain free reign
and control.'

Yep, that's LiarBO in a nutshell.

[petroc] 14/1/2023 16:48

LiarBO is a scammer trying to devalue FUM stock, because he made such bad investment decisions that he lost all his money. He invested far too heavily in CSD500 and sold out for pennies when the share price crashed. He now holds FUM responsible for his stupidity and has consequently bashed this stock for 5 years! What an absolute loser!

'Is the "Bashing" of a stock an essential part of the online
investment landscape?
Our Constitution guarantees us free speech and we have
always valued the lessons gleaned from dissent. When does
dissent cross over that imaginary line and become "Bashing"?
To often we find well grounded dissent capriciously labeled as
"Bashing" by over zealous investors bent on protecting a stocks
reputation at any cost. The "Bashing" that is addressed on this
site is quite different from dissent. The Anatomy of a Basher
strives to look at the calculated erosion of confidence in a given
stock. Erosion by means that are, in every sense, void of truth,
hinged on deception and innuendo, and motivated by greed at
the expense of others. This compendium is offered to aid in
identifying the telltale signs of "Bashing", and hopefully provide
a counter balance to this heretofore unchecked manipulation of
investors fears for personal gain.
IS IT EASIER TO SCARE PEOPLE INTO SELLING THAN IT IS TO
SCARE PEOPLE INTO BUYING A STOCK? I have asked some
knowledgeable investors this question and the answer is
always: "YES, OF COURSE YES!"
WHO BASHERS PREY UPON
Consider the elderly that are investing for retirement, they find
their way to the message boards for validation only to see false
posts about "SEC Violations" and "Class action suits"... or the
head of a "typical growing family", with children to put through
college, who is monitoring a message board only to read posts
by a "pack of 15 to 20 Bashers" (probably 5 or 6 under various
alias's) posting continuous disinformation... what do you think
these new investors will do? It's safer to not buy or even sell
the stock, put the money back in the bank than to deal with all
this whirl wind of "unsupported" negative chaff.
The Internet has lured a whole new class of investor into the
market. A new investor is just that - New! This new investor,
while learning the basics, is particularly vulnerable to the tactics
of professional Bashers. New investors tend to lurk in the
background of message boards, content to form independent
opinions based on what they read with their own eyes. Very
often, honest, intelligent and cautious people can easily be
overcome by a well orchestrated propaganda effort.
You must always remember that their is a lot of money to be
made in just the motion of a stock UP or DOWN it doesn't
matter! And Bashers have money at risk just as you do. But
they have the edge of fear, lies, and falsehoods to post while
preying on the un-initiated. The average investor dose not have
the edge of organized deception.
Recent revelations have indicated that even Market Makers
(those charged with keeping the playing field level) have been
involved in stock manipulation by Bashing on a stock message
board. HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THIS IS A REAL THREAT!
Lesson 1: Remember, BASHERS NEVER Bash A BAD
STOCK. Check the boards for stocks with no potential. They
never have any Bashers. Bashers only go after stocks that are
moving up or have excellent potential to do so. Bashers work to
bring the price down to either increase their position at the
expense of others or help a Short make their bones.
Lesson 2: BASHERS ALWAYS BRING UP OLD NEWS THAT
YOU HAVE HEARD MANY TIMES. New startup companies
always have a few bits of bad news. The Basher will post this
over and over again. Unsophisticated Bashers will try to
freshen up old news with a new date or by-line in an attempt to
fool you.
Lesson 3: BASHERS POST MANY TIMES A DAY. They try to
wear you out. They comment on everything, every other post,
and can answer every question. THEY KNOW IT ALL! There is
no positive comment they won't Bash. They try to control the
board. True longs may have to confront the Bashers or they will
appear to the newbies as being the people with all the
information. This is best accomplished by posting positive, well
researched data on the company, repetitively, while trying hard
not to engage the Bashers in direct repartee. REMEMBER -
LONGS... RESIST USING THE BASHERS ALIAS!
Lesson 4: BASHERS WILL LIE TO YOUR FACE. Never trust
a Basher. The truth on startup companies is that they make
mistakes. What new company hasn't? The Basher will compare
your issue to a another companies, financials - deals -
management, etc., trying to lure you into making an Apples to
Oranges comparison. Remember each company is unique and
while it is prudent to seek out established indicators, do so with
care and don't take someone else's word for it. Strive to come
up with at least a "six-pack" of indicators so your vision of the
state of a company is not tied to a single barometer. Not doing
so is tantamount to going to a Race Track and betting on the
"Pretty Brown Horsey". BASHERS WANT TO WHISPER IN
YOUR EAR - PLANT A SEED OF DOUBT, AND HOPE THAT
YOU ARE NOT SAVVY ENOUGH TO RESEARCH THE
TRUTH ON YOUR OWN. This is how they achieve their
greatest success.
DOUBT + FEAR + LAZINESS = BAIL OUT!
This is your investment... work for it, protect it and don't panic
on the words of very shadowy figure that "has your best
interest in their heart". Consider that one factor: Someone you
have never met, is not a member of your family, is now, out of
the goodness of their hearts - GIVING YOU FREE ADVICE
(that you didn't ask for). It's a no brainer. They have motives
$$$$$$$$$$$$.
Lesson 5: Bashers know YOU CAN'T VERIFY THEIR
STATEMENTS. That's why they make the vague statements
they do. They rely on you being to lazy to research their
droppings other than to scan the board for others opinions.
This is particularly dangerous when you consider that Bashers
work in packs and often validate and back up each others
nonsense with what appears to be "innocuous and unsolicited"
verification by comrade Bashers. Let's face it, we are all
conditioned to "believe" everything we see in writing. If others
by virtue of their "posts" also confirm this belief, then we are
subconsciously doomed to swallow the hook, line and sinker...
Basher - 1 Honest Investor - 0
Lesson 6: The Bashers PLAY ON YOUR LACK OF
KNOWLEDGE. They can lie about information and you won't
know the difference (unless you have done your own DD on the
company and know the truth and facts).
Lesson 7: Bashers play on your lack of patience. You have
held a stock for a while. You knew it will be a big stock
someday, but the BASHER CAN GET TO YOU BECAUSE
YOU ARE TIRED OF WAITING FOR YOUR GAIN. That's
when the Basher is best. You are tired. You have forgotten the
goal for the stock was to hold it for one year. The Basher is
bothersome, so you dump it on a bad day. Some others also
dump. Then you get mad for your loss and return to let
everyone know how mad you are. Then you turn into a semiBasher as well. THE BASHER HAS WON, AND GAINED A
NEW ALLY - YOU!
Lesson 8: BRING THE PRICE DOWN. That is the Basher's
job. The truth is not important. Lies are the norm. Post
continuously on the board every day. They are trying to scare
the newbies that are just investigating a stock. They are trying
to wear down the faithful longs on the board and gain free reign
and control.
A BASHER HANDBOOK:
Do not underestimate a Bashers influence on a stock. The
Pro's are good at what they do and what they do is profit from
your losses. Below is their "hand-book". Learn from it or you
will be donating your hard earned money to them!

[petroc] 14/1/2023 16:47

Are the rampers accusing the wider scientific and academic community of ‘bashing’;? No, just you, LiarBO. They haven't mentioned FUM or MED3000 at all, it's only you trying to claim that MED3000 doesn't work. The wider scientific and academic community would not be so stupid as to make those claims because as you consistently point out, it hasn't been tested against placebo yet, so nobody knows for sure whether its effects are purely placebo or something more. Certainly, 60% of men with ED who have trialled MED3000 said it worked for them, which is twice as many as those who gained no benefit. I rather doubt that that huge proportion could be written off as placebo, even you yourself have only managed to claim that placebo effect could affect as much as 50% of patients.

[black bird] 14/1/2023 15:59

fum. has a sell note on share prophet seen by any . dec ember 2022 avoid , is it worth taking notice of this,
share prophets seem to be more right on the sells. risk has crept in. fum never sold anything no revenue
20 years. Odier have reduced recently to 26.99% am not happy FDA approval is it a device ? eroxson . BB

[lbo] 14/1/2023 13:57

According to the ramper. The ASA applying the accepted scientific principles of substantiation beyond a placebo’ and applying the CAP code relating to all medical devices is ‘bashing’!



Assessment

Upheld

The ASA noted that the product appeared to meet the requirements of the Medical Device Directive (MDD) but understood that the MDD did not harmonise EU law relating the advertising of medical devices, which was subject to Directive 2005/29/EC on unfair business to consumer commercial practices (including advertising) generally (Unfair commercial practices directive - UCPD). That meant that advertisers must still meet the requirements of the CAP Code, which reflected the provisions of UCPD. Under the CAP and BCAP Codes, medical claims could be made for CE-marked medical devices provided they complied with other requirements of the Codes, including those relating to substantiation.

CE certification in itself does not constitute evidence for medical efficacy claims, and advertisers need to ensure that they hold evidence for such claims.

There was no statistically significant difference between the outcomes for the treatment group (patients using the Aerosure device) and the control group (using an inactive sham device). The study was accordingly not adequate evidence of the efficacy




Because the trial was not placebo-controlled, we considered AcceleDent had not provided adequate evidence to support the claim AcceleDent, is also clinically proven to reduce the pain and discomfort associated with braces and aligners by up to 71%. We concluded that the claim had not been substantiated and was misleading.

On that point the claim breached CAP Code (Edition 12) rules 3.1 (Misleading advertising), 3.7 (Substantiation) and 12.1 Medicines, medical devices, health-related products and beauty products.



Assessment

Upheld

The ASA noted that the product appeared to meet the requirements of the Medical Device Directive (MDD) but understood that the MDD did not harmonise EU law relating the advertising of medical devices, which was subject to Directive 2005/29/EC on unfair business to consumer commercial practices (including advertising) generally (Unfair commercial practices directive - UCPD). That meant that advertisers must still meet the requirements of the CAP Code, which reflected the provisions of UCPD. Under the CAP and BCAP Codes, medical claims could be made for CE-marked medical devices provided they complied with other requirements of the Codes, including those relating to substantiation.

CE certification in itself does not constitute evidence for medical efficacy claims, and advertisers need to ensure that they hold evidence for such claims.

There was no statistically significant difference between the outcomes for the treatment group (patients using the Aerosure device) and the control group (using an inactive sham device). The study was accordingly not adequate evidence of the efficacy



Med3000 was just the placebo in the FM57 study Therefore Futura had initially believed Med3000 had no therapeutic effect. The FM57 study did not set out to measure the efficacy of Med3000. The ASA will therefore consider that its reported effectiveness by Futura was a ‘post-hoc finding’

The CAP Code required that objective claims, including medical claims for a CE-marked medical device, be backed by evidence

a certified Class IIb medical device. We understood that the device certification was granted by a body within the European Member States that had been designated to carry out conformity assessments under the Medical Device Directive

had been used as the placebo treatment in that study, and therefore the researcher had initially believed it had no therapeutic effect. The trial did not set out to measure the efficacy

its reported effectiveness by the advertiser was a post-hoc finding due to the risk of that being a false positive finding

[petroc] 14/1/2023 13:44

Are the rampers accusing the wider scientific and academic community of ‘bashing’;? No, just you, LiarBO. They haven't mentioned FUM or MED3000 at all, it's only you trying to claim that MED3000 doesn't work. The wider scientific and academic community would not be so stupid as to make those claims because as you consistently point out, it hasn't been tested against placebo yet, so nobody knows for sure whether its effects are purely placebo or something more. Certainly, 60% of men with ED who have trialled MED3000 said it worked for them, which is twice as many as those who gained no benefit. I rather doubt that that huge proportion could be written off as placebo, even you yourself have only managed to claim that placebo effect could affect as much as 50% of patients.

[lbo] 14/1/2023 13:29

Can we cure ED by sheer power of positive thinking? In some cases, yes, research shows.



The placebo effect is that observed in the placebo arm of a clinical trial, and is produced by the placebo psychobiological phenomenon in addition to other factors, such as spontaneous remission, regression to the mean, biases, and judgment errors.



PLO = Placebo (identical gel to MED2005 but without the active pharmaceutical ingredient glyceryl trinitrate)



After Phase III Failure, UK Firm Pushes Placebo to Treat Erectile Dysfunction



Expectations of having received the drug can be modulated if the subjective effects of a drug inform the individual that active medication has been administered and increase expectations of drug effects.

[petroc] 14/1/2023 10:06

LiarBO is a scammer trying to devalue FUM stock, because he made such bad investment decisions that he lost all his money. He invested far too heavily in CSD500 and sold out for pennies when the share price crashed. He now holds FUM responsible for his stupidity and has consequently bashed this stock for 5 years! What an absolute loser!

'Is the "Bashing" of a stock an essential part of the online
investment landscape?
Our Constitution guarantees us free speech and we have
always valued the lessons gleaned from dissent. When does
dissent cross over that imaginary line and become "Bashing"?
To often we find well grounded dissent capriciously labeled as
"Bashing" by over zealous investors bent on protecting a stocks
reputation at any cost. The "Bashing" that is addressed on this
site is quite different from dissent. The Anatomy of a Basher
strives to look at the calculated erosion of confidence in a given
stock. Erosion by means that are, in every sense, void of truth,
hinged on deception and innuendo, and motivated by greed at
the expense of others. This compendium is offered to aid in
identifying the telltale signs of "Bashing", and hopefully provide
a counter balance to this heretofore unchecked manipulation of
investors fears for personal gain.
IS IT EASIER TO SCARE PEOPLE INTO SELLING THAN IT IS TO
SCARE PEOPLE INTO BUYING A STOCK? I have asked some
knowledgeable investors this question and the answer is
always: "YES, OF COURSE YES!"
WHO BASHERS PREY UPON
Consider the elderly that are investing for retirement, they find
their way to the message boards for validation only to see false
posts about "SEC Violations" and "Class action suits"... or the
head of a "typical growing family", with children to put through
college, who is monitoring a message board only to read posts
by a "pack of 15 to 20 Bashers" (probably 5 or 6 under various
alias's) posting continuous disinformation... what do you think
these new investors will do? It's safer to not buy or even sell
the stock, put the money back in the bank than to deal with all
this whirl wind of "unsupported" negative chaff.
The Internet has lured a whole new class of investor into the
market. A new investor is just that - New! This new investor,
while learning the basics, is particularly vulnerable to the tactics
of professional Bashers. New investors tend to lurk in the
background of message boards, content to form independent
opinions based on what they read with their own eyes. Very
often, honest, intelligent and cautious people can easily be
overcome by a well orchestrated propaganda effort.
You must always remember that their is a lot of money to be
made in just the motion of a stock UP or DOWN it doesn't
matter! And Bashers have money at risk just as you do. But
they have the edge of fear, lies, and falsehoods to post while
preying on the un-initiated. The average investor dose not have
the edge of organized deception.
Recent revelations have indicated that even Market Makers
(those charged with keeping the playing field level) have been
involved in stock manipulation by Bashing on a stock message
board. HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THIS IS A REAL THREAT!
Lesson 1: Remember, BASHERS NEVER Bash A BAD
STOCK. Check the boards for stocks with no potential. They
never have any Bashers. Bashers only go after stocks that are
moving up or have excellent potential to do so. Bashers work to
bring the price down to either increase their position at the
expense of others or help a Short make their bones.
Lesson 2: BASHERS ALWAYS BRING UP OLD NEWS THAT
YOU HAVE HEARD MANY TIMES. New startup companies
always have a few bits of bad news. The Basher will post this
over and over again. Unsophisticated Bashers will try to
freshen up old news with a new date or by-line in an attempt to
fool you.
Lesson 3: BASHERS POST MANY TIMES A DAY. They try to
wear you out. They comment on everything, every other post,
and can answer every question. THEY KNOW IT ALL! There is
no positive comment they won't Bash. They try to control the
board. True longs may have to confront the Bashers or they will
appear to the newbies as being the people with all the
information. This is best accomplished by posting positive, well
researched data on the company, repetitively, while trying hard
not to engage the Bashers in direct repartee. REMEMBER -
LONGS... RESIST USING THE BASHERS ALIAS!
Lesson 4: BASHERS WILL LIE TO YOUR FACE. Never trust
a Basher. The truth on startup companies is that they make
mistakes. What new company hasn't? The Basher will compare
your issue to a another companies, financials - deals -
management, etc., trying to lure you into making an Apples to
Oranges comparison. Remember each company is unique and
while it is prudent to seek out established indicators, do so with
care and don't take someone else's word for it. Strive to come
up with at least a "six-pack" of indicators so your vision of the
state of a company is not tied to a single barometer. Not doing
so is tantamount to going to a Race Track and betting on the
"Pretty Brown Horsey". BASHERS WANT TO WHISPER IN
YOUR EAR - PLANT A SEED OF DOUBT, AND HOPE THAT
YOU ARE NOT SAVVY ENOUGH TO RESEARCH THE
TRUTH ON YOUR OWN. This is how they achieve their
greatest success.
DOUBT + FEAR + LAZINESS = BAIL OUT!
This is your investment... work for it, protect it and don't panic
on the words of very shadowy figure that "has your best
interest in their heart". Consider that one factor: Someone you
have never met, is not a member of your family, is now, out of
the goodness of their hearts - GIVING YOU FREE ADVICE
(that you didn't ask for). It's a no brainer. They have motives
$$$$$$$$$$$$.
Lesson 5: Bashers know YOU CAN'T VERIFY THEIR
STATEMENTS. That's why they make the vague statements
they do. They rely on you being to lazy to research their
droppings other than to scan the board for others opinions.
This is particularly dangerous when you consider that Bashers
work in packs and often validate and back up each others
nonsense with what appears to be "innocuous and unsolicited"
verification by comrade Bashers. Let's face it, we are all
conditioned to "believe" everything we see in writing. If others
by virtue of their "posts" also confirm this belief, then we are
subconsciously doomed to swallow the hook, line and sinker...
Basher - 1 Honest Investor - 0
Lesson 6: The Bashers PLAY ON YOUR LACK OF
KNOWLEDGE. They can lie about information and you won't
know the difference (unless you have done your own DD on the
company and know the truth and facts).
Lesson 7: Bashers play on your lack of patience. You have
held a stock for a while. You knew it will be a big stock
someday, but the BASHER CAN GET TO YOU BECAUSE
YOU ARE TIRED OF WAITING FOR YOUR GAIN. That's
when the Basher is best. You are tired. You have forgotten the
goal for the stock was to hold it for one year. The Basher is
bothersome, so you dump it on a bad day. Some others also
dump. Then you get mad for your loss and return to let
everyone know how mad you are. Then you turn into a semiBasher as well. THE BASHER HAS WON, AND GAINED A
NEW ALLY - YOU!
Lesson 8: BRING THE PRICE DOWN. That is the Basher's
job. The truth is not important. Lies are the norm. Post
continuously on the board every day. They are trying to scare
the newbies that are just investigating a stock. They are trying
to wear down the faithful longs on the board and gain free reign
and control.
A BASHER HANDBOOK:
Do not underestimate a Bashers influence on a stock. The
Pro's are good at what they do and what they do is profit from
your losses. Below is their "hand-book". Learn from it or you
will be donating your hard earned money to them!

[lbo] 13/1/2023 18:03

The real competitors to Med3000 are just any arousal gel/cooling lubricants and the users being led to believe that they are effective treatments for their Psychogenic ED!

All Futura have done with MED3000 is open the door for Reckitt to sell similar lubricants/arousal gels as medical device placebo treatments for ED. And report Med3000 to the ASA, FTC etc for being misleading if it does not inform consumers that MED3000 itself has no proven effect in ED beyond a placebo. It has never proven efficacy in an adequate placebo controlled study or even against any standard cooling lubricant/arousal gels in an ED study.



‘You are the active ingredient’

Even the analysis on market forecasts knows Reckitt who is the market leader in lubricants will be only one to gain from marketing lubricants as placebo treatments for Erectile Dysfunction




Reckitt Benckiser was the defined leader and the ultimate four Personal lubricant vendors with leading brands such as Durex Play and K-Y Jelly.

KEY GROWTH FACTORS

Increasing prevalence of erectile dysfunction

9 Market Growth Enablers
9.1 Increasing Prevalence of Erectile Dysfunction

[lbo] 13/1/2023 18:01

Yes they were counselled by even just the unblinded and uncontrolled biased designs which led them to believe they were testing a Viagra type gel or in FM71 a Cialis comparison gel! https://www.asa.org.uk/rulings/pro-bono-bio-entrepreneur-ltd-a17-400871.htmlMed3000 was just the placebo in the FM57 study Therefore Futura had initially believed Med3000 had no therapeutic effect. The FM57 study did not set out to measure the efficacy of Med3000. The ASA will therefore consider that its reported effectiveness by Futura was a 'post-hoc finding'The CAP Code required that objective claims, including medical claims for a CE-marked medical device, be backed by evidencea certified Class IIb medical device. We understood that the device certification was granted by a body within the European Member States that had been designated to carry out conformity assessments under the Medical Device Directivehad been used as the placebo treatment in that study, and therefore the researcher had initially believed it had no therapeutic effect. The trial did not set out to measure the efficacyits reported effectiveness by the advertiser was a post-hoc finding due to the risk of that being a false positive finding

[petroc] 13/1/2023 17:45

I guess you'd know all about CSD500 failure wouldn't you, LiarBO? Over five years ago you were singing its praises, and you clearly bet the farm on it, because around that same time you stopped posting about all the other stock you'd been interested in. You obviously sold all your other holdings and sunk more than you could afford to lose in FUM. As you keep pointing out, the condoms failed to sell (although they did work), and the share price nose-dived. Then, either because you were such a naive investor, or because you'd borrowed to invest, (equally naively) you sold at the bottom of the market. If you'd stayed holding, you'd have got your money back when EU approval was granted, but instead you became FUM's biggest loser, and devoted the next five years (and counting) on bashing the stock in your childish act of revenge for being such a naive moron. If anyone thinks I'm making this up, then put aside several hours of your time and go back through LiarBO's old posts, and all the evidence is there to see, much to LiarBO's embarrassment. I have to warn you - his posts for the last five years have been EXACTLY the same as they are now, and there are tens of thousands of them!