Creightons Share Discussion Threads

[badabing] 29/7/2003 16:40

we'll just have to wait and see...IQL only got in because 2 other barnstormers recently when had excellent news and jumped in 00's % in days...if it happens here then great if not well I can wait....this one has come down a long way and looked priced to go bust - perhaps it's turned the corner ? p.s I never let big gains put me off a good story if it's still got some mileage in it...80p to a 1p in 3 years - there has to be some more upside if they stay solvent surely ?

[lanzen] 29/7/2003 16:17

bada - Just scrolled back through the posts - I see the notorious SueHelen was ramping mercilessly. She appeared on RGT some time back, too.

Watch very, very closely - did you spot that this is the second upwards jump? Anymore to come, I wonder.

Being a gambling stock, it may be attacting shorts from everywhere - what d'you reckon?

And yes, looks lake a normal day at the office here, doesn't it?

Maybe the IQL crowd might jump on board...

[badabing] 29/7/2003 16:12

it's a punt - nothing more. I see CRL has resumed normal service btw....doh!

[lanzen] 29/7/2003 16:06

Bada - Gordon Bennett!!!!

133% - Imagine holding them BEFORE that!!!

I'll watch it closely - sure hope it comes good for you.

[badabing] 29/7/2003 15:04

Just done the same thing on IQL - take a look if you like a "gamble"...

[lanzen] 29/7/2003 14:36

Glad to hear it's not just me, then!!

[badabing] 29/7/2003 14:22

That's what got me interested too - oh those clever MMs eh ? Jumped aboard - didn't realise that it was the end of the ride. To be honest I just took a punt here for a quick buck on momentum...nothing more....goes to show that the old DYOR should always be applied when buying ...

[lanzen] 29/7/2003 14:16

What d'you reckon caused the recent clicks upwards? - It was the first jump a few weeks back that attracted my attention - yet no real news to justify it...

Should we be watching The Bodyshop a bit more closely, maybe?

[badabing] 29/7/2003 14:02

got to admit there is plent of room for improvement here ! long term shareholders must be getting very narked with this management so I anticipate that something has to give soon...

[lanzen] 29/7/2003 13:59

Absolutely agree. I don't intend to ridicule, I just warned that you invited it!

Looking at the news you quoted though they did turn around a loss of 34K into a 5K profit - so that's a 39K improvement. Not bad going, you have to admit!

Best of luck with these guys and RTD!

[badabing] 29/7/2003 13:53

I think perhaps you misunderstand my intentions here... it was to show that the press were speculating on 28 December 2002 as to why the company even existed and the previous results on which these were based (published on 27 December) just demonstrated that they still haven't been able to make a profit to that date and nothing has changed in that repect so I thought it was very relevant indeed...as for inviting ridicule - there's no need for that kind of thing is there - let's try to keep this peaceful?

[lanzen] 29/7/2003 13:40

Hi, badabing.

Discussion's great - all for it. There was no offence intended - and I'm sorry if any was taken. Good to hear you're making money, I am strting to now as well, generally.

Look back at what you said. What was the point you were trying to make?

I was talking about the relevance of 2002 figures. Look at SRF. They started in 2000-1 at 24 pounds fell to 280p in 2002 then now, they are up to 840-ish. I could have quoted lots of posts from that time, all saying the company's was going down the pan. Clearly , it didn't it was just Bad Times for all. Many, many punters lost over that period but kept their nerve and now - well the sun is starting to shine.

Discuss by all means, but keep the context relevant, my friend or invite ridicule - and be man enough to accept it. Fair comment?

[badabing] 29/7/2003 09:53

Lanzen,

So what happened to discussion here then ? Is it not allowed if it doesn't confirm to your wishes ? I was simply backing up my arguments with published facts (oldish facts I grant you but facts all the same). I'm sorry if you are losing money elsewhere but I'm like you and have lots of others doing nicely thank you. I'm planning to hold CRL for a while longer and look forward to seeing some more "news" on these in the coming months.

Be Lucky

[lanzen] 29/7/2003 07:41

badabing - Well, has to be said that quoting news from Sept 2002 is an interesting way of judging how a stock is doing. middle of a recession, the market genarally losing money at that time and many investors (including me) losing money big time on far bigger fish than Creightons - like Vodafone (1.50 down to 90p, mm02 down from 1.20 to 40). You are of course 100% entitled to your views, but with so many shares on which to make money today (not in 2002) , why not take out any money you have in Creightons and put it into something else - leaving us poor souls to take our chances?

[tink23] 28/7/2003 15:28

looks a good time for directors to buy

[badabing] 26/7/2003 23:15

Avoint,

Old news but I think it still makes a valid point here.

Sat 28 Dec 2002(40964)

Why Creightons is still listed is a mystery to The Guardian. The toiletries firm only managed a £5,000 operating profits in the six months to September. The paper scathingly says that although the firm turns over £4m a year, it doesn’t seem to make much of a profit, while its market capitalisation comes in around the £1m mark. Eight years ago it was worth 200p a share. Now it is just under 2p.

27 December 2002

Creightons plc ("Creightons" or "the Company")

Interim results for the 6 months ended 30 September 2002

Chairman's statement


I am pleased to be able to report to you that the Company has recorded a small
operating profit for the half-year to 30 September 2002 of £5,000 (2001: loss of
£34,000). As a consequence of the Company having lower borrowing than for some
time, interest expense of just £34,000 also means that the overall loss for the
period of £29,000 is the lowest loss reported for the Company in over six years


Avoint,

My comments were meant to reflect my continued concerns in this area (6 years of losses) and not about short term price movements although I still stand by 10% on a 2p stock is neither here no there. It still appears that they only kept losses relatively low through the contribution from their aquisition - hardly inspiring is it ?

And yes I do still hold as I hope that one day this lot will finally get a wake up call and deliver the goods.

[badabing] 26/7/2003 09:17

Avoint, So what is your take on the results and commentary please ?

[avoint] 25/7/2003 22:59

Fing stop moaning or stop investing and stick your dosh in the Bank.Why does everyone think shares are going up in vertical lines? If I got 10% today I would be pleases.If it had gone down 30% what would you have said....Oh well I suppose it's only 30% and not 75% !!!!

[badabing] 25/7/2003 18:58

Hardly exciting news though was it ? 10% on a twpenny stock is nothing to write home about. If you feel good about it then fair enough but I read the comments and numbers rather than just looking at the share price and they hardly made good reading to me.

[lanzen] 25/7/2003 17:27

Oh what a cynical shower - Look it's up 10% against a market that's fallen 18 clicks. What more could they do today?

Save the whinging for when it next falls. You don't have to invest in it if it offends you so much. Go and have a bicker at the pumping weirdos on MMD!

[opthalmist] 25/7/2003 14:53

LOL! Sad but true. Must say HAR is looking ready to take off any time now though?

[badabing] 25/7/2003 14:51

The management here are truely awful and haven't a clue why they are there. Seems like it's run by some peaceniks and tree hugging hippies who think making a profit is a crime...

[opthalmist] 25/7/2003 14:47

Results were lacklustre. MM's probably marked it up to fool people into buying before they read the RNS!

[leogee] 25/7/2003 14:47

so do i very little interest shown in results so far probably see delayed trades later on

[badabing] 25/7/2003 14:46

Now +10%. Doubt if Mms need any stock for this dog do they ? Hardly seeing a rash of buying (so far anyway) and yes I do hold some.