Cloudified Share Discussion Threads

[sportbilly1976] 11/8/2016 13:45

SXX has been a great one from 20-40p in short order...watched but missed, congrats

[oggyrocks] 11/8/2016 13:26

Are you still holding SXX stephen ? Thats been a great buy for me. Only bought a few weeks ago.

[oggyrocks] 11/8/2016 13:23

Tend to agree with Ross. £1-2 range. £2 more likely than £1. Could be much higher however.

ROI will still have the asset, so its not as if its a loss amount for them.

Should be a good few weeks and see the next resistant point at 36p now. Then 50p.

It could break these before the result.

I have 20% of holding that looking to offload. But as we are now moving higher I will hold these for a little longer.

[stephen1946] 11/8/2016 13:19

OOC is the holy grail, immediate cash payment of agreed amount. Share price would shoot to something like 90% of offer price, instantly on announcement. No messing around chasing assets should indonesians decide to play hardball.

[frrinvest] 11/8/2016 13:10

Yes they do, they have already set aside money for litigation/claims they are expecting. Don't forget they can go an resell the CHL licenses for a lot more. £2-3 is certainly not unrealistic, its reasonable for both parties. That's what negotiation is all about. Time will tell. OOC is on cards imho. dyor.

[stephen1946] 11/8/2016 13:08

Very well put ross. They also did a deal recently with Dodgy Dave for £bn's in loans.

[cool hand kev] 11/8/2016 13:00

But do they have that sort of money to cough up? I doubt it.

[sportbilly1976] 11/8/2016 12:51

For info for those new to this thread with reference to the post above:

Current market cap (at 27p) - £39.83mln (say £40mln)
Current Fx £1:$1.30, so $1.3bln ~ £1bln and with interest $1.6bln ~ £1.23bln

so the full claim is in the region of 25-30x the current sp

All down to the fogery claim and if an OOC settlement comes forward the amount proposed by the ROI and agreed with DQ

[stephen1946] 11/8/2016 12:42

Ross, i cant believe you had the neck to post that! Think it, keep it to yourself, yes of course but to put such a comment in print for future reference is silly, no absurd.

The original claim of $1.3bn included interest. We now at this point have further interest charges to add on which is roughly $1.6bn total, your regular piece of "it will probably be a further 18months to 2 years before the case is concluded" well if thats is the case make it $1.8bn. With the extra interest, So you are happy with a figure of $80m.

ROI must wish they had a darling like you to negotiate with. I will not, and have not set myself a figure to put in print but i will say now, it will not, will not be, $80m.
Do not forget the realistic threat made by D.Q. if they question $1.3bn total, a reapraisel will be made which could top $2bn plus interest. That eye watering sum is real, i am afraid yours belong in disney world. Imho.

[sportbilly1976] 11/8/2016 12:34

rossaman,

what %age of the claim do you feel is "realistic" in terms of offered by ROI and accepted by DQ??

[oggyrocks] 11/8/2016 12:30

It was trading at £1.50 once upon a time. So it should be above this figure.

Impossible to judge, but it must be a decent payout if we win. Don't think it would be unreasonable to expect this. However I am used to disappointment !!!

[coley15] 11/8/2016 12:28

Is £2- £3 unrealistic? I don't believe it is.

[oggyrocks] 11/8/2016 12:04

Think we might all be happy with £2-3

I would be on the first flight to somewhere amazing for a few months.

[frrinvest] 11/8/2016 11:57

Best outocome OOC... probably heading that way me thinks! CHL asking c.£4, settle between £2-£3. Everyone's Winner (Hot Chocolate)!

[dandick] 11/8/2016 10:47

This is just following the $

[cool hand kev] 11/8/2016 10:27

So after the OXUS Debacle has any company one a similar case?
As I wouldn't want to loose another shirt :-(

[neo26] 11/8/2016 10:21

i like this, :)

its only going up.

[pug151] 11/8/2016 09:57

The share price rose by 20-30 daily for 3 days before jurisdiction decision if i recall so this is just a little nudge.

[sportbilly1976] 11/8/2016 09:55

If we have the 1v1 of active market makers, then the one typically on the offer must be running low as they seem to be jumping recently (hence the increase in spread).

[pb01] 11/8/2016 09:54

or may be today lol

[pb01] 11/8/2016 09:48

yep 30 pence looks very possible in the next few trading sessions.