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[riffraff1] 22/4/2016 00:19

Hi Rossannan and Frak,
I am following up a reply from Ross next day from Oz so apologies for the delay.
Ross asked what information I had found related to award payouts?

The information regards awards that I looked at were from a publication ISCID Statistics:
hxxps://icsid.worldbank.org/apps/ICSIDWEB/resources/Documents/ICSID%20Web%20Stats%202016-1%20%28English%29%20final.pdf

Pretty interesting that the information in there describes awards being in full or part there of with some statistical information to support it.
Then there is a later post from Frak at 17:16 your time with a link containing facts and figures stating average payout is only 37%
So! at this stage I have no idea which is correct or perhaps determined using different statistical method.
Would be good to find out the real data though

[jr_] 21/4/2016 22:37

Good old Rupert.

[nav1000] 21/4/2016 22:27

ok mystic pat, when do you expect to see 100p?

[patviera] 21/4/2016 22:15

Debbie thinks 400pI think 100pDebbie a ramperPat a realist

[patviera] 21/4/2016 22:15

Oh no not filtered?How WILL I cope??!!Tell Debbie I downgrade my px tgt from 120p to 100pTalk of 400p by Debbie is pure ramping shame on her

[patviera] 21/4/2016 22:14

20 timesUtterCompleteTotalNonsenseI downgrade my px tgt from 120p to 100p

[nav1000] 21/4/2016 22:05

they need forgery allegations thrown out before they can continue, this is a drag.

20 bagger, if that was the case do you really believe you had a sniff to buy at these levels...

[driller50] 21/4/2016 21:48

Churchill does win and Indonesia pays up, investors stand to make more than 20 times their money.

[spartikas] 21/4/2016 21:36

for those who missed the article due to the noise...

AIM Darling Churchill Mining Plc multi-bagger Investors stand to make more than 20 times their money


Investing is all about balancing risk and reward. There is no point risking 100% of your capital if you only stand to make 10% in the best case scenario.

That's why investing in highly speculative companies can be a risky business. The returns on offer often fail to compensate investors appropriately for the risk taken on.

If everything goes to plan, AIM darlings could become multi-baggers, generating impressive returns for those who are willing to take the risk. However, if things don't go to plan investors could lose 100% of their capital.
High risk, high reward

Churchill Mining(LSE: CHL) is currently fighting the Republic of Indonesia for damages associated with the unlawful revocation of the East Kutai Coal Project. Churchill and its partner, Planet Mining, held a 75% interest in East Kutai.

An independent assessment has calculated that Churchill's damages from the unlawful seizure of the mine could be $1.3bn (around £910m). At the time of writing, Churchill's market cap is only £29m.

Now, Churchill still has a long way to go before it can claim to have won against Indonesia, and even if the company does win in the courts getting the cash is another matter altogether. That said if Churchill does win and Indonesia pays up, investors stand to make more than 20 times their money.

[spartikas] 21/4/2016 21:34

I'm expecting more than 20x.

good luck to all the LTH.

[spartikas] 21/4/2016 21:27

Pat get a life you along with BR are filtered.

[neo26] 21/4/2016 21:11

@AimSharesOne

"Now, Churchill still has a long way to go before it can claim to have won against Indonesia, and even if the company does win in the courts getting the cash is another matter altogether."

placing after placing.

[aimsharesone] 21/4/2016 20:53

AIM Darling Churchill Mining Plc multi-bagger Investors stand to make more than 20 times their money
21 Apr 2016 20:32

[aimsharesone] 21/4/2016 20:53

AIM Darling Churchill Mining Plc multi-bagger Investors stand to make more than 20 times their money
21 Apr 2016 20:32

[aimsharesone] 21/4/2016 20:53

AIM Darling Churchill Mining Plc multi-bagger Investors stand to make more than 20 times their money
21 Apr 2016 20:32

[nav1000] 21/4/2016 19:35

Bad Robot

Thats the question my friends all investors are asking, why are ROI being awkward about this license:

1)ROI made foreign investors invest in finding resources and once verified mammoth resources told them to get out of the country, they want to keep for themselves and corrupt partners. LIKELY outcome but its about proving it in court.

2)Their are indeed some irregularities in the way Ridlatama's got the license. ROI have lied in the past and i dont see why they wont do that AGAIN.

I think they have spend around 60m on proving the resources and around 10 on court case. They will get that back no matter what happens...

The question is when..

[bad robot] 21/4/2016 19:23

And if there were some validities in CHL claim why is it trading at 20p? The market is efficient (EMH).

[bad robot] 21/4/2016 19:15

How come no one has speculated that misappropriation may have happened with kickbacks?

CHL may have acted professionally, but they could have been cheated by someone rather by the state. Falsification of documents by an official does not mean the State sanctioned it. Being ignorant is not an excuse.

That's why CHL may not have done their due diligence and it was their responsibility, they messed up and they will not get one single Rupiah.

IN BR WE TRUST

[bad robot] 21/4/2016 19:07

CHL bought a dud license and they think it's ROI faults. The directors of CHL may not have exercised due diligence when buying "license", they did not exercise their fiduciary duties.

Just like many people bought houses in Spain, on faults documentation, on govt land.


Hope this helps

[nav1000] 21/4/2016 18:55

There are some claims made by ROI about many irregularities with Ridlatama's acquiring the license, chl bought 75% from these boys.

Lets see what happens.

[bad robot] 21/4/2016 18:52

where's diddiegoon and her mate Baxtoon?

[nav1000] 21/4/2016 18:41

FRAK 21 Apr'16 - 17:16 - 3390 of 3397

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by time this is settled most investors will be walking with sticks. Another 5 years.. :-)

Even ROI have rumored to say they dont believe the license to be forged, its a delay game. Thats all it is...

They will claim irregularities with them aquiring the license from Ridlatama's. They dont claim chl is dodgy but Ridlatama's who they purchased 75% off.

[bad robot] 21/4/2016 18:34

LOL

"we", Baxtoon diggiegoon, stephanie, Funk, Dandy and Gaffer. Where's that mong coward Nonce T'pau?

[frak] 21/4/2016 18:26

"President Widodo will also make a visit to the Port of Rotterdam and attend The Netherlands-Indonesia business forum, which is expected to generate a foreign investment commitment of approximately US$601.2 million."

.. and no longer covered by the BIT agreement we cancelled so we can stitch you up like a kipper!