Bt Share Discussion Threads

[diku] 16/11/2017 22:39

BT just can't do 2 up days in a row..

[alphorn] 16/11/2017 19:41

Essential, agree with your sentiments.

Still retaining my BT's, a loss leader at present. :(

[pacemaker1000] 16/11/2017 18:17

GP and GS need to go!
Big bump if this happened imho

[careful] 16/11/2017 16:56

FT really have the boot in for BT.

So many examples in the past where financial journalists have been bunged by hedge fund investors to spread the negatives.
Guess it creates opportunities for us to make some cash.
We all have to eat.

I suppose this is why the company gave such a detailed breakdown last week.
Many pages long, very detailed.

But who but the serious reads such important information.

[toon1966] 16/11/2017 16:55

Come on DMF - Italy and Hong Kong are very old news....

[essentialinvestor] 16/11/2017 16:47

Given the UKX strength not a good day. Traded one lot today.

[dmf] 16/11/2017 15:58

FT Alphaville

There is a comment that BT Global Services are the worst asset of any European operator - lack of controls in Italy and anti-competitive behaviour in Hong Kong - there is no realistic buyer for these assets !

[montyhedge] 16/11/2017 15:49

235p my target before Xmas and 185p/195p in 2018 if they don't improve things. Come on Gavin a positive rns is what shareholders want.

[tcarter66208] 16/11/2017 13:53

Isn't there soon to be a release to confirm that the scandal didn't cost anywhere near as much as previously estimated, or has that info already public knowledge?

[toon1966] 16/11/2017 13:15

So smurfy please enlighten us all by detailing how this 'terribly badly organised operation' could be slimmed down?

[smurfy2001] 16/11/2017 13:09

Agree a new CEO is needed someone that can actually see how bad the service is as well! It's a terribly badly organised operation could be slimmed down so much.

[toon1966] 16/11/2017 12:47

Just out of interest minerve why did you mention the World Cup next year?

[s2lowner] 16/11/2017 12:33

offer from plusnet bt sport for £2.50 per month for six months thereafter £5 received by email today,. must be trying to get numbers up.

[careful] 16/11/2017 12:32

Paying £900m for sports rights when they may have only been worth half of that will cost BT £450m.
Minus the hidden advantages of increased broadband and EE mobile subscribers.

Now I understand why the value of BT. has fallen by £26bn. (£26,000m)

[minerve] 16/11/2017 12:32

I agree. It is absolute value destroying.

[dmf] 16/11/2017 12:26

Comment on FT Alphaville

About the value destroying BT strategy of over inflated sports acquisition.

I really hope BT does not over bid in next round of auctions, it is value destroying, there is no return and where is the demand for football, they added 7000 subscribers?

This so called quad play gimmick.....has this benefited BT ?

Will only add to my holding when BT share price has collapsed !!

BT need a new CEO to restructure operations !

[minerve] 16/11/2017 12:10

And further down! LOL

Pierre - expert commentary please. Do you still believe you were right to hold the share when I recommended selling at circa £5?

Next stop, FCF hit and dividends reduced. Saviour in all this? An exciting Champions League/Premiership run in/ World Cup next year? I can't see it.

Vodafone starting to increase competition in cities.
SSE just agreed use of sewers in London for ultra-fast fibre.

BT on the ropes.

[careful] 16/11/2017 11:53

Brexit will blow away and be meaningless.
We shall all get very bored.
Almost nothing will change on trade, why should it.
Very little on anything else.

They will just carry on as before, as they have for 40 years or more.
Free travel to and from the EU will continue, why should it not.
Payments will be as before in one way or another.

Much ado about nothing, and the EU know it.
We shall probably never leave, these imaginary deadlines will be extended ad infinitum.

The referendum was a meaningless farce.

[essentialinvestor] 16/11/2017 11:43

careful, the Tory party are emeshed with Brexit,
whatever individual views on the subjet it looks to be paralyzing the Party.

Yes they will adapt imv, but not enough and in time to avoid big LAB gains.
Defeat usually prompts political renewal.

[zho] 16/11/2017 11:38

BT currently being discussed at

[stewart64] 16/11/2017 11:36

I do agree that political risks should not be discounted. At the same time never known such a concerted media attempt to crash the Market. It's basically flatlined for 9 months and is a mere 8% above the Market cap of 18 years ago, probably the worst Equity performance of any major economy. Yet this has somehow got translated into a run away boom with investors so fearful broker accounts are literally overflowing with cash. Anybody would think you could earn 10% on deposit, it's nearly zero whereever you put it.

[careful] 16/11/2017 10:48

Tories will adapt to survive.
Corbyn caught them off guard in the last election.
Promising both the old and the young goodies that the mean Tories planned to remove.

It will be different next time.
It would not surprise if a 70+ year old Corbyn was competing with a fresh faced tory younger leader.

If Corbyn did get to power very little would change.
He would have to placate the financial markets and make them the promises.
His trade union chums would feel betrayed.

Everyone thought that when Communist China took back control of Hong Kong everyone would soon be wearing overalls and riding bicycles.
Nothing changed, if you inherit a goldmine you cease to be a commie.

[essentialinvestor] 16/11/2017 10:36

Stewart, UK political risks are growing, regardless of Brexit.

If you look at the age break data from the June GE, the Tory Party lost
every age group under 45, think it may have been under 48.
Now given that about 500,000 students are starting University every year
facing large student loans, demographics are moving rapidly in Labour's favour-
this is before you factor in the death rate at the other end of the age demographic.

Not meant as a political point, just how it looks atm.

[stewart64] 16/11/2017 09:12

Essentialinvestor...absolutely too risky, the only thing going for it is it is hard to imagine no large electrical retailer with high street outlets even if e retailers are killing it.

Probably a bad example to liken it to BT other than the fact its fortunes have coincided. But there is the analogy of crippling competition in a crowded Market place. So much for wealth extractors Mr Corbyn..it is the customer that is extracting wealth from some companies.