Blue Star Capital Share Discussion Threads

[stoxx67] 08/11/2020 06:21

i am grateful for your final paragraph peted81 as i was going to ask , prior to your clarification, what the hell are you doing invested in this stock if you are negative on esports and satoshipay ;)

i differ in that i believer esports can be monetised and can make a great deal of profit going forward. i like Dynasty for being the exact opposite of Satoshipay, points i clarify below, didn't particularly like how Guild played out initially,i'm sure it will be ok over time.

my views on Satoshipay have been very well articulated on this thread, nothing they have said or done, 99% said ;) , has changed my mind.

B2B is their final last chance to remain relevant, there seems to be the same old approach that seems to have plagues the Satoshipay past, no get up and go, no vigour, no marketing. they only seem to be reasonable at raising funds and then only from Stellar.

i am aware a series A is scheduled for next Year, let em put it this way.

a company that has now been around for 6 years, unprofitable, little if any revenue, no demonstrable drive to disrupt a market, small , if any, marketing /sales team. its a software company with no sales or demonstrable revenue.

to the question, would a financial institution subscribe in a fundraising effort by this company?

i know the answer, do you?

[peted81] 07/11/2020 23:24

What a company can raise and what they're worth are very different things.

Look at all the Blockchain ICOs that raised tens of millions based on vaporware and are now worthless. As the linked article says "even the most ludicrous project was virtually guaranteed a $10 million raise."

The word "Blockchain" created unrealistic valuations, and "eSports" seems to be headed in the same direction.


I'm not completely negative, some will succeed and Blu's strategy of small investments into several companies is excellent, but anyone thinking 4 kids playing computer games is worth £100m needs their head checking.

[888icb] 07/11/2020 19:58

GUILD raised £20 million and have agreed to pay David Beckham £15 million over 5 years. One can only assume they know what they are doing. The only comparable I can find is the £16 million Netflix just agreed to pay him for previously unseen family footage but also following him around to his various business interests which should include Guild. One has to rely on BLU’s board knowing what they are doing. Guild isn’t currently valued at what we hoped but we are still seriously in profit despite the fall.

[hazl] 07/11/2020 13:01

Yes but it's been on an upward trajectory since March none the less.

[peted81] 07/11/2020 12:55

I'll have a listen, thanks. The jury is out on eSports for me. Too many parallels to the ICO craze of 2017, companies with obscene valuations based on nothing more than being Blockchain related.

Guild certainly seems that way, with people talking about £100m. It's a startup with 4 kids playing video games FFS. It's like me starting a football team and valuing it at £1b because that's what top teams are worth.


Some will be worth that, yes, but I expect 90% to fail, just like the ICO nonsense.

[stoxx67] 07/11/2020 06:41

now that is a business KP

they give a definitive time to profitability, they know their market and are savvy executors within it.

i just don't see a time, any longer, where Satoshipay deliver. may well prove a write off for Blue Star as , sadly, they just have been unable to deliver, on ANYTHING, even after 6 years.

[kernel_pult1] 06/11/2020 18:34

Pete - Would you mind listening to this 20~min podcast from the guys over at Dynasty and letting me know what you think? I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on how you feel this investment is ran compared to Satoshipay



Look forward to hearing your opinion!

[trentendboy] 06/11/2020 13:32

Should never have fallen this low on no news.

The lack of a Guild pop I think led to speculators and short termers bailing out.

If guild had popped to 12-15p then we would have seen a lot more action but as it happens Guild is clearly a slow burner but still doing everything to plan from what I can see

[doodlebug4] 06/11/2020 11:23

StockBox Media were delighted to interview Dynasty eSports founders Matthew Lodge & Crispin Tristam on the eSports business model, the current eSports market and the roadmap for the company BLU

[888icb] 06/11/2020 11:20

Up 18% on volume of 45.5 million.

[imjustdandy] 06/11/2020 10:41

Biden Blu wave hitting Blu at last

[888icb] 06/11/2020 10:08

Now Up 14.3% on volume of 25 million and just 17 trades. Putting BLU at number 7 on the leaderboard.

[kernel_pult1] 06/11/2020 09:23

Good morning to you too spookie.
Don't get me wrong - finally getting to beta testing stage is great, but what about for the 12 months previous to this? Why does everything take an absolute age to do? I'll tell you why, because Meinhard has no urgency whilst he continues to suck on the teet of stellar. When Stellar drop 500k EUR into his business account he probably has a little party as it gives him funds to drag things out again for a few more months. Its not good enough

[trentendboy] 06/11/2020 09:13

All depends on the SatoshiPay part of that valuation. Esports they are doing very well

If SatoshiPay makes it then they will be a multibagger - if not....

Of the 5.8m how much of that is the SatoshiPay valuation worth?

Guild worth so much and then there are the other unquoted holdings

I suspect some of those will be taken over soon enough as consolidation hits the sector - GMBL in the US buying up assets pretty quickly

[okspookie] 06/11/2020 09:12

u guys know im not a fan of SatoshiPay

but u need to understand how beta testing works

& clearly u don't

[888icb] 06/11/2020 09:10

Up 7.1% on 7 trades and volume of 12 million. A good start following on from yesterday’s rise. Very undervalued on a market cap of £5.8 million.

[hazl] 06/11/2020 09:08

Seems to be fighting back.

[trentendboy] 06/11/2020 09:07

Sounds interesting - surely not the SatoshiPay beta you are talking about?

[kernel_pult1] 06/11/2020 09:00

You sound as though you are surprised Pete! lol

There is absolutely no urgency to get things done at Satoshipay whilst they've got the crutch of Stellar supporting them.

I don't know why rampers find this so difficult to comprehend.

However, it will all be OK because hodhasharon pledged 10p end of year target and imjustdandy pledged 0.3p within a week and then 0.4p the following week lol

[thinksteve] 06/11/2020 07:46

Latest Dynasty interview, just out.

[peted81] 05/11/2020 21:47

The SatoshiPay/DTransfer farce continues. They've gone from having a beta product 6 weeks ago, to getting close to the beta release....


22 Sept: "DTransfer’s initial Beta service offers some robust features that will continue to evolve "

05 Nov: "We’re getting closer to our beta release"

Not even the mug(s) on the rampers thread should be falling for this

[imjustdandy] 05/11/2020 21:42

Big news tomorrow- back through 20

[trentendboy] 05/11/2020 19:13

I can see this getting back to over 0.2 very quickly - was massively over sold