Blue Star Capital Share Discussion Threads

[apfindley] 29/5/2017 21:28

not quite sure what you're getting at....but..

satoshi funding rounds have been at increasing prices since initial angel funding, which is good for holders.

the current valuation is based on the last funding round which puts the valuation in the region of 6 mill at time of funding.


blue star have.....
1,886 satoshi shares at £340 for 640k investment
1,471 satoshi shares at £340 from ffwd for 500k

blue star total = 3,357 shares representing 19.1% of satoshi

giving 17,576 satoshi shares in issue


you are suggesting that bluestar will be diluted to 1/4 of what they have, then you are suggesting the issuing of a further 300% of shares in satoshi which will be 52,728 extra shares.....meaning a raising of 17.9 million

are you really sure satoshi will raise that much....i dont think they will need anywhere near that ammount - they have been very prudent with money so far.

also, blue star will be the preferred funder for future, and there IS a real possibility that a route to stockmarket listing will infact be via bluestar.

so before making outlandish claims of dilution to 5%, just take a few minutes to do some basic maths, with the FACTS already known..

[cyberbub] 29/5/2017 19:46

(Sorry fat finger)...that could be £25M to Blustar, which at the current 1bn shares would be 2.5p, or an almost 20-bagger from here?Just some musings...NAI

[cyberbub] 29/5/2017 19:45

As the value of Satoshi mounts in future funding rounds, Blustar will not be able to invest enough to maintain its holding percentage. Nevertheless I would have thought that by the time Satoshi gains proper traction, Blustar will still have perhaps 5% of Satoshi? So if Satoshi got sold for say £500M,

[errollc] 29/5/2017 16:21

Big Banks, Big investment companies are already investing in Blockchain...only a matter of time before they come across Satoshipay.

[888icb] 29/5/2017 14:37

I am excited as you are about the prospects for Satoshipay. I can only think that FFWD has some mind blowing investments to have dropped Satoshipay when it sold its interest in BLU. Jim Mellon remains invested and to me it is just the sort of investment he had in mind when he wrote the Fast Forward book.
I intend to increase my holding here and will act on any weakness in the share price although I must admit that last week I bought more FFWD as I am expecting news there fairly soon.

[doodlebug4] 29/5/2017 13:56

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[doodlebug4] 29/5/2017 13:47

A 19% stake in SatoshiPay is a mouthwatering prospect.

[ivor hunch] 29/5/2017 10:19

If you look at BLU's investments other than Satoshi, they come to over £1.6 million. The company is capitalised at £1.79 million so in effect the 19% of Satoshi is in the share price for nothing. This has to be a bargain.
Ivor

[apfindley] 28/5/2017 21:35

It's run by an api which sits on the vendors website. All the end user has to do is have a satoshi wallet with credit in. They need to do nothing else. The vendor just needs to be signed up with satoshi and have their api sitting on the website. When people visit the website, the api will know if that user has a satoshi wallet, and will call upon satoshi for the credit balance, and display the balance to the end user by a small floating widget. It will also show the charge for viewing Content, a d the end user will just have to make a 1-click acceptance to view. The end user will need nothing at all to be installed, it will all come securely from satoshi, when the vendors Installed api calls satoshi for the end users balance/credentials. I just re-listened to a Justin waite podcast from a few months ago, and meinhard can be clearly heard saying the potential for satoshipay is in the billions.

[cyberbub] 28/5/2017 21:05

I would have thought that satoshipay would sell for way more than the £100M being mooted on here, *if* it takes off as hoped... it would be taken over for one of the 'big boys' for several times that much I would have thought...?NAI

[cyberbub] 28/5/2017 20:31

Can anyone tell me how easy it is for the content vendors to integrate Satoshipay? Is it a complex system or can they simply insert 'tags' in every content item for which they want to charge?

[apfindley] 27/5/2017 19:18

oh now this is very interesting.
working with VISA.
not heard this mentioned before.

05/May/2017

"As the IoT connects things like light bulbs in a home and integrates them into the network, the bulbs themselves may be able to negotiate the most favorable price for electricity from competitive power grids. Visa envisions a lightbulbs paying for electricity only when they consume it. And rather than a single payment, the bulb pays continually and incrementally. This will require a new type of currency for ultra-tiny transactions. The digital currencies Bitcoin or Ethereum’s Ether may work for this, as well as paying for tiny chunks of bandwidth, storage, or CPU time in a computer, or energy and sensor data. Visa Europe is running a trial of such micropayment systems with Berlin-based SatoshiPay."


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[apfindley] 27/5/2017 18:44

Interesting reading on wiki/micropaymentOnly a small number of recent micripayment companies listed, including flattr, m-coin, PayPal, Satoshipay, swish, and zong. What Interests me is that zong, which allowed content to be billed to mobile phone accounts, was acquired by eBay about 6 years ago. The buying price was..... $240millionOk, enter satoshipay..... What price..... .

[doodlebug4] 27/5/2017 09:01

This article is flagged up on the Sthaler Twitter feed for info:

[letmepass] 26/5/2017 23:36

Maybe both are over priced

[doodlebug4] 26/5/2017 17:15

I agree apfindley, unfortunately Coinsilium would appear to be far more active in marketing their company than Blue Star right now.

[apfindley] 26/5/2017 15:14

Counsillium market cap £3.3mill for a 12% stake in satoshipay Blue star market cap £1.75mill for a 19% stake in satoshipay Time to do the maths. Equivalent blue star market cap should be £5.3millWhich is around three times today's price, ie 0.45pTime to get buying...

[apfindley] 25/5/2017 22:10

Yes Fingopay is also very exciting, and likely will become mainstream. It's a perfect fit for bars, nightclubs, even entry into large events, such as sports games, concerts, possibly even the tube system, you could either pay at point of entry, or preauthorise and then process payment upon presenting finger at point of entry..... anywhere that large crowds need to be processed rapidly. Pity blue star only own 1% of Fingopay.

[apfindley] 25/5/2017 22:04

Satoshipay. Well worth reading this document if you want to know more about how it all works..... docs.satoshipay.io/apiEnjoy. .

[doodlebug4] 25/5/2017 20:43

Fingopay‏ @FingoPay 1h1 hour ago

Here's how technology is breaking into hospitality and retail #biometrics #payments #fintech

[apfindley] 25/5/2017 16:02

Bitcoin can already be used as a payment method and I believe Coinbase can too. But, so far, Im not aware of any other Company enabling "micro" payments, as they are not viable for normal transactions, which is why satoshipay are pioneering the use of blockchain to process. Also, there aren't exactly many sites yet offering a "pay only for what you read" fee structure..... But it is about to happen, big time, globally. If anything, it's rival could end up being Google ads (for reasons I've not time to witter on a out right now) ...!! At first that might be a scary thought puffing our satoshi chest at mighty Google...... But then Consider, the BILLIONS which Google spend each year wiping out competition from smaller companies. Either to get rid of the competitors, OR to acquire them as subsidiaries., (think social media etc). Something big is definately going to happen here, one way or the other...... Watch this space, as they say...

[doodlebug4] 25/5/2017 14:55

Sthaler‏ @SthalerLtd 4h4 hours ago

Do you have money in your veins? you can meet us at #SBS17 with our #innovation partners #biometrics

[biggest bill] 25/5/2017 14:30

I really like the idea of what Satoshipay is trying to do. Are there any examples of companies currently using the technology for payments?

[apfindley] 25/5/2017 14:22

The point is, satoshipay are a first mover in this micropayment sector. And as such will likely grab the best deals and establish themselves. Electronic payment is something which is ever expanding. Paysafe, eservglobal, coinbase, there are many many more, all doing things slightly different, but finding their own niche, and I believe satoshipay will also, as they are pioneering this micropayment movement. There is plenty of room for all. Do any of the above own a monopoly on their payment method, no they don't.Take a look at Paysafe to see the growth trajectory it created, and what market cap it sits at now, after just 2-3 years. Satoshipay is going to be HUGE. .

[doodlebug4] 25/5/2017 12:47

I'm convinced that it's a question of when, not if, micro payments take off. It would be great to be able to pay a micro payment just to read the financial section of The Times for example, or the sports section. How many people actually have time to trawl through the whole paper, especially when you add in the weekend supplements.