Acertec Share Discussion Threads

[8trader] 18/3/2009 10:36

Easy to spot, turns up on same threads, same style and spams the bb
trying to ramp same stocks !

He was actually filtered for over a year until he turned up here so
i unfiltered to have a look.

[bozzy_s] 18/3/2009 10:27

Oh ok, so this chap's got history too? How can you tell it's the same person, different username?

[battyman2] 18/3/2009 09:44

And I object to being called a P & D 'er!

[bozzy_s] 18/3/2009 09:36

I object to being called a 'bozo' Battyman. I am simply putting a balanced and honest viewpoint across. Something which cannot be said about yourself. Rampety ramp.

P.S I am positive on more stocks than I am negative.

[8trader] 18/3/2009 09:35

Battyman !

I remember you as the proffessor !

But when it comes to shares you act like a dunce and not a prof !

Can you not read even the basics of a balance sheet ?

[bozzy_s] 18/3/2009 09:34

No problem with trying to put across a balanced point. I'd answer as follows:

> It does have cash of 24.4m, but borrowings of 87.5m, so it has net cash of -63.1 million pounds

> Trade receivables + inventories do cover trade payables

> Net settlement plus a profit on disposal totalling approx 5m pounds brings net cash up to -£58m

Then adjust this figure either way depending on the trading performance for the year.

Company therefore depends on the support of it's lenders. If they trade at a loss and are unable to meet repayment terms, they're finished. No chance of a share placing to pay off debt with market cap. £0.7m !!

I'd suggest that the best case scenario is a debt-for-equity swap if the company can pursuade it's lenders it is a going concern. Current shareholders get zero. Worst case scenario is they go bust.

[battyman2] 18/3/2009 09:34

Low market cap - only a few million shares in circulation - company with a huge turnover!!


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[battyman2] 18/3/2009 09:33

Absolutely - don't listen to the Bozos who post negative comments on this thread

[bozzy_s] 17/3/2009 15:42

Quoting a ficticious price target several hundreds of % above current value is also a common trick

[bozzy_s] 17/3/2009 15:40

ACER is a recent victim of P&D as described below secretsqu. Hope you didn't buy purely on the basis of made-up rumours. Best of luck.

"Pump and dump" is a form of microcap stock fraud that involves artificially inflating the price of an owned stock through false and misleading positive statements, in order to sell the cheaply purchased stock at a higher price. Once the operators of the scheme "dump" their overvalued shares, the price falls and investors lose their money. Stocks that are the subject of pump-and-dump schemes are sometimes called "chop stocks."[1][2]

While fraudsters in the past relied on cold calls, the Internet now offers a cheaper and easier way of reaching large numbers of potential investors.

[battyman2] 16/3/2009 14:26

Secretsqu - don't despair! Very few shares available - MM's know it but will try and keep the price down before jacking it up (when news breaks) so quickly that none of these poor Bozos will be able to get in even at your level!

8p is the target and I think it will be surpassed

[secretsqu] 15/3/2009 08:38

Thought so, thanks for the advice guys. I am trying to gauge the value of holding these shares as mentioned previously. There seems to be a lack of real news out there or potential news that could merit a chance of the share price moving north, apart from talking to their bank about additional funding prior to October and the order for Landrovers and Jags for China.

Any views or news that I have missed, as I have looked in an awful lot of places.

Cheers
secretsqu

[secretsqu] 14/3/2009 17:40

This appears to be a very lonely thread. I bought in a couple of weeks ago at 3.8p, even given the dire state of the motor manufacturing industry. I have been scouring the boards for more info from like minded people, some could say fools, to no avail. (absolutely no offence meant)

I use Moneyaam for live share prices and have come across a chap/ette called Devlin who appears to be posting on his/her own and to him/her/self. He/she has made some claims which have not come to fruition since posted. I have posted a link below as I don't not want to consider this person an outright ramper unless someone can prove otherwise.

This is not a witch hunt but rather a person currently considering whether to hold or consolidate losses.

Any views welcome.

ADVFN competitor.com/quote/index.php?epic=ACER

[battyman2] 12/3/2009 18:21

Significant shareholdings:


Candover Investments p.l.c. 21.38%
Gartmore Investment Management p.l.c. 15.13%
Stemcor Holdings Ltd 9.20%
Henderson Global Investors 6.91%
Morgan Stanley Securities Ltd 5.99%
Brian Anthony Charles Kingham 5.48%
Lowland Investment Trust Company plc 4.76%
Hansa Trust PLC 4.38%
RCM (UK) Ltd. 3.21%


Seems that most of the issued shares are held by large investors!!

[battyman2] 11/3/2009 10:24

Perhaps for posting information which is extremely price sensitive??