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| Share Name | Share Symbol | Market | Stock Type |
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| Abrdn Diversified Income And Growth Plc | ADIG | London | Ordinary Share |
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| 0.00 | 0.00% | 75.60 | 08:33:18 |
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| 75.60 |
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Posted at 12/3/2024 16:33 by thrugelmir @cc2014"I looks like they have changed the way they value the 2031 bonds since yesterday to align with the redemption terms, so I assume that's another 0.7% permanently gone off the NAV." What's changed? Accounting treatment of bonds is standard in calculating NAV's. Though this aspect of discounts is overlooked by the majority of investors. |
Posted at 06/1/2024 07:23 by spectoacc "The only defence we have as investors is to be moderately diversified no matter how confident we may be about any particular line item."Yes, that's true. Patisserie Valerie, seemingly a one-man fraud spotted by no one, the perfect example. But analysts etc in general are part of the problem. Was a few lone voices on both Carillion and Autonomy. The hilarity with AU. was HP were written to by one of them (Paul Morland I think?) pointing out the state of the accounts, particularly revenue recognition, after they bid/before completion. HP when ahead anyway, then had the cheek to sue Autonomy. Sorry, but if you've been warned first... Hedge funds/shorters tend to do the job of auditors and spot what doesn't look right. With very few misses, and a lot of hits. NMC Health another cracker. And I've barely got on to AIM, eg Quindell :) @Thrug - difficult to believe Dan McCrum of the FT was threatened by BaFin. They brought criminal charges. That in a nutshell is why never to trust the markets. Apologies for OT. |
Posted at 06/1/2024 00:10 by thrugelmir Worth reading up on Wirecard to grasp the complexity of corporate fraud. Fascinating insight. Majority of retail investors play the stock markets. They've not the slightest clue of the real world of business. Been too easy for far to long to invest without the slightest thought. |
Posted at 05/1/2024 15:28 by spectoacc Much that went on with HOME was indeed extraordinary. To pick some favourites:- They successfully raised more cash, many times; - Knight Frank did the bunkum valuations - allegedly without ever going inside any of the properties; - MNG take a bow: they continued to buy AFTER the easily confirmed allegations had been made; - The hidden gifting of 12 months rent to the lessee, from HOME's purchase proceeds; - The Board, continuing to issue RNS denials of what a group of posters on ADVFN could easily see was true from 15 mins of Googling. I've been inside a couple of HOME properties - strewth. Suspect some of the CIC/charity lessees existed only on paper, with zero management/CapEx. Amazing how (alleged) fraud can be hiding in plain sight (eg Patisserie Valerie), and how "wait a minute, look at this, it's bunkum" fraud like Autonomy, Carillion etc can still attract buyers (using OPM of course) and go on for years. If I've a nose for them, it's only thanks to losing on the likes of Camkids, Naibu (both China AIM frauds), Langbar (a classic) and several more. But does amaze me how little research big institutional investors (and investment trusts) actually do, preferring to trust management, auditors, valuers. ie those behind/missing every fraud & scam ever. |
Posted at 04/1/2024 17:20 by mwj1959 I suspect the trust wind down opportunity set is only going to get larger in 24 if there isn't a meaningful narrowing of discounts. Problem is that most of the vulnerable have exposure to illiquid assets, so any return of capital is likely to be protracted in most instances. But I guess with most of them paying a decent yield investors are being paid to wait. |
Posted at 21/12/2023 13:45 by contact2fsnetcouk HelloI was in the Abrdn regular share savings scheme but then they advised it was closing and I could transfer to Interactive investor or a platform of my choice. I chose HL. The shares were transferred but I did not receive the dividend that was paid on 1 December into my HL account so I called Abrdn who said it would be with HL in 5 working days. Needless to say, it isn't. I've tried calling the customer service number I had but all I get is a record message then the line goes dead. Has anyone else had this experience?? |
Posted at 21/12/2023 13:10 by hohum1 I saw that, Riverman. They didn’t explain what those IRR figures were but I think they were since investment to date. The 35% IRR fund has a big stake in Action, the discount retailer so beloved by investors in 3i, which has been a rocket… |
Posted at 15/12/2023 09:55 by mwj1959 There are probably easier realisation stories out there and I'm sure there will be more in due course as the IT sector goes through a much needed realisation / merger process to deal with the massive and persistent discounts that currently exist. Large discounts are clearly attractive for the LT investor, but getting hold of the money in a timely manner is the challenge, particularly as these large discounts are almost exclusively in funds holding private and illiquid assets. But at least boards seem now to be succumbing to investor pressure to do something, even if it is not necessarily optimal. Plenty of opportunities for the patient I suspect. |
Posted at 14/12/2023 11:39 by riverman77 I'm thinking of the overall return if you invested today (and factoring in the share price rise this morning). I guess there is scope for the value of the illiquid investors to increase over time, plus any income they produce. Might look into it a bit more when I get a chance. |
Posted at 28/2/2023 22:32 by thrugelmir Unless institutional investors step in. Retail investors alone aren't going to drive the share price higher. There's relatively little interest in UK stocks from what in the USA are called "hobby investors". Since the turn of the year in US markets retail investors have been net buyers while institutions are net sellers. This bear market is far from over. That's for sure. |
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