Interview Transcripts Tell Fed's History Over Past 50 Years-- 2nd Update
12 April 2019 - 11:16PM
Dow Jones News
By David Harrison
Transcripts of more than 50 interviews with top Federal Reserve
officials and staffers offer an inside view of central
bank-operations over the past 50 years, including internal debates
and pressures from the White House.
Among the documents released Friday are interviews with former
Fed leaders Paul Volcker, Alan Greenspan and Janet Yellen as part
of an oral history project in advance of the central bank's
centennial in 2013.
The officials talked about their approaches to the job and the
challenges they faced as central-bank bosses.
Mr. Greenspan, who led the Fed from 1987 to 2006, described
efforts by the Nixon administration in 1971 to get former Fed
Chairman Arthur Burns to relax his efforts to temper inflation.
Mr. Greenspan, who considered Mr. Burns his mentor, said he got
a call from Charles Colson, a Nixon adviser, telling him the
president wanted Mr. Greenspan to urge Mr. Burns to drop his focus
on fighting inflation.
"I said, 'Chuck, I understand there is a telephone on the desk
of the President and one on the desk of Arthur Burns. I would
suggest they might talk to each other.' And Chuck said, 'You don't
understand. Nixon will not speak to Burns,'" Mr. Greenspan recalled
in a June 2009 interview.
Historians since have written that Mr. Nixon pressured Mr. Burns
to adopt looser monetary policy before the 1972 election to help
Mr. Nixon's campaign. Mr. Greenspan said he didn't believe Mr.
Burns was influenced by Mr. Nixon.
"In fact, it's so alien to my view of what Burns would do that
when he said that was not what was happening, I have no question
that his view of events was the accurate one," he said.
In July 2008, Mr. Volcker also recalled a White House meeting,
outlined in his recent book, with President Reagan and then-White
House Chief of Staff James Baker, where Mr. Baker pressured him not
to raise interest rates ahead of the 1984 election.
Mr. Volcker, who led the Fed from 1979 to 1987, said he realized
the president always supported him -- even if it didn't seem that
way at the time.
"It is true that he never criticized me or the Federal Reserve,
and, as sure as I'm sitting here, his staff was telling him to
criticize us, particularly when things were getting tough in 1981
and 1982," said Mr. Volcker, who raised interest rates into double
digits to curb high inflation, contributing to a recession. "He had
every reason to criticize us openly, but he never did. There were
these anonymous things from the White House. But it never came out
from the mouth of the president, which I think was not
insignificant."
Laurence Meyer, who served on the Fed board from 1996 to 2002,
said in an October 2010 interview that he suspected during his
interview with President Clinton that he had been picked to balance
Mr. Greenspan. The Fed chairman "was thought to be too hawkish," or
supportive of higher interest rates, Mr. Meyer said. "I was
supposed to be a counterweight, the person who was more dovish," or
supportive of lower rates, he said.
Mr. Clinton didn't explicitly say so, Mr. Meyer recalled, "but
it was obvious."
Mr. Meyer's recollection echoes the current debate over
President Trump's stated intention to nominate Stephen Moore and
Herman Cain to the Fed's board of governors. Trump administration
officials have said the picks are intended to balance the views of
Fed Chairman Jerome Powell, whom Mr. Trump has criticized for
raising interest rates.
Despite his reputation as an advocate for easier monetary
policy, Mr. Meyer described going to Mr. Greenspan alongside Ms.
Yellen in 1996 to urge the chairman to raise interest rates to
prevent strong economic growth from fueling excessive
inflation.
"Our visit had very little influence on him," he recalled.
Ms. Yellen, recalling the encounter in a 2012 interview, said
she eventually decided that she was wrong to call for higher
interest rates.
"It turned out that Greenspan was quite right that inflation
wasn't going to be a problem and I was wrong, looking back on it,"
she said. "He recognized that productivity growth had risen and
that was working to contain cost pressures."
--Kate Davidson, Harriet Torry and Sarah Chaney contributed to
this article.
Write to David Harrison at david.harrison@wsj.com
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