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[hyper al] 26/7/2002 09:46

scratchandsniff

I have seen these rumours for years and have just ignored them until today. I must admit the photographs suggest that man has NOT landed on the moon. I would need to look at the original NASA photographs before I would be 100% happy with that conclusion, but it does not look good!

How can all those scientists at NASA be so stupid?

[little tyke] 26/7/2002 09:45

gone quiet again!

[scratchandsniff] 26/7/2002 09:08

A few more people seem to be catching on to the USA's trickery. The Russians would never dream of sending their men out to the moon as the radiation in space would kill them long before they reached it. Read the link on my thread, it's interesting.

[hyper al] 26/7/2002 09:00

Asteroids tend to come in clusters, bad news!

[mi££ions] 25/7/2002 12:59

Philmiboots,
is that the time?!

Thanks for reminding me of that thread. I count those that believe humans have walked on the moon in the same camp as those who believed the bible is true (as opposed by a book writen by the elite to control the unruly masses in 400AD), the Earth is flat, an atom looks like a plum pudding (extremely old physics book required!), a television is a con trick with small actors inside it, stones contain Gods, the Gods are angry during a thunder storm etc. etc.

I can actually answer most of the questions posed on

although some have false premises...possibly written by drunks or religious nutters!

is very good.

For the record: The Russians couldn't afford a moon-shot so they let the US pretend they'd been there, seen it, done that, bought the tee-shirt etc. Bingo! Space race...vast expense...over at a stroke (given that a round trip to Mars is 100000000 times more IMPOSSIBLE than the moon)! No-one's been back in 31 years...

[bankroll] 25/7/2002 11:27

I heard that it is being radio controlled by a certain Mr Alloy Bin Liner (now based in Bali) who has been shorting the DOW since 8:00am on 11 Sept 2001 NY time and it has been programmed to hit the middle of a fireplace shop somewhere in the UK.

[hyper al] 25/7/2002 08:17

Well all my money is in my house. I may move before impact and have a house designed and built as far away as I can get from ground zero and suitable for the next dark age. I assume that any property that can survive and can help sustain life after impact will have enormous value.

Designer homes for impact survival could make a fortune, all payment for such properties would need to be in gold!

[mi££ions] 25/7/2002 01:32

zenone,
That's bloody selfish! My planned retirement date is 2030 (Unless my SIPP (fingers crossed), GPP Money Purchase Scheme (unlikely!) or my own portfolio (fingers crossed again!) come up trumps). In which case I'll be retiring at 50 i.e. 2018 - 4 months before the damned meteorite hits!

[mi££ions] 25/7/2002 01:18

is amazing! It answers most of questions I had after a large aeroplane alledgedly hit the Pentagon on 11th September. Where is the aeroplane debris? Why is the hole so small? A few days after Sept 11 I thought that the next attack could possibly be a petrol tanker into the Senate or Houses of Parliament or a half million tonnes hypertanker driven through the middle of a US/UK coastal city. It looks like the road-going petrol tanker has already been done?

[zenone] 25/7/2002 01:07

Thats bloody typical im 48 and retire in 2019 so wont get long to spend my pension, not that its going to be worth that f,ing much the way things have been going of late, in fact if i take half in cash it might just last until the BIG bang.....

[mi££ions] 25/7/2002 00:48

Muchos Wonga,
Friends of the Earth will be after you...all this talk about bombing whales! You ought to be ashamed of yourself. Don't you realise they are endangered, yet have bigger brains than us? Mind you, if they're that bright why don't they develop technology to wipe us out? They should have considered that when they decided to evolve a flipper from an opposable thumb. Not so smart, eh?!

[hyper al] 25/7/2002 00:37

Muchos Wonga

If it fall on Wales, that's Europe gone.

Hope it hits the pacific that would send a few waves around the world.

[muchos wonga] 25/7/2002 00:27

Hope it falls on Wales. Should stop their whineing.

[mi££ions] 25/7/2002 00:08

Buy shares in:-
- hydroponic gardening
- Fire Appliance manufacture / Ambulance manufacture
- guns (needed to fight the damned looters!)
- Intercontinent Ballistic Missile manufacturers (just in case they blow it out of the sky and the other mentioned shares flop!)
- Bruce Willis and the company that made 'Armaggeddon' (will be popular in the run up!)
- gold (because the dollar will be worthless)
- tobacco (because in a post apocalyptic world people won't be too worried about the minor health problems associated with smoking. Also, tobacco will be hard to grow during a 'nuclear'-style winter so demand will easily outstrip supply!)

Sell shares in:-
-technology (because that's the 'done thing' (although it may not be by 2019!). Also, electronics manfacturers require a clean environment and low temperatures for IC processing. The Earth's atmosphere will be full of choking dust at a temperature of around 300 Celsius. This, on the face of it, looks positive as it implies supply will be very low but I don't see much demand either!)
-utilities (gas, coal and oil won't burn in a CO2 rich atmosphere! Also, since the reservoirs will have been vaporised you'll need to dig your own spring and shoot anyone who comes near!)

I call the above my apocalyptic portfolio. DYOR before making any investment! However, bear in mind that even those not directly invested in the stockmarket could find there may be hidden financial snags with armaggeddon. For example, your pension and endowment may not be worth as much as you thought! Also, remember that as a consumer your money may be worthless, your central London home may be dust at the bottom of the 'Thames Sea' and you may find your home insurance excludes 'planetary annihilition' in the small print (although the mortgage lender would undoubtedly chase you for the outstanding balance!).

[philmiboots] 24/7/2002 23:53

Don't forget this thread chaps :-

[mi££ions] 24/7/2002 23:19

Little tyke,
sorry for not being on hand to answer your questions! I have a life away from this BB. Unfortunately, it involved B&Q, a lawnmower and taking the kids to a Brewsters Bear pub!

Point 1: the 'astronaut' (No! Stop it! He was an astronaut really...anyone in orbit IS an astronaut) didn't spin around in the manner of a child in a playground! He would have turned one way, looked at something, performed a task and then turned and moved to do someting else. This would easily allow enough time for the camera to heat and cool.
Point 2: (Assuming they were on the moon) If there was air in the camera convection would have been the main source of heat transfer in the camera. The air would heat quickly since a camera in space is effectively a magnifying glass (lens) strapped to a greenhouse (housing), both of which can get extremely hot in the sun! In a best case scenario (yawn...assuming they were on the moon) with no air in the camera then convection would not be possible. The housing would still heat up by radiation from the sun and the heat would be conducted to the spools which held the film. The chemicals on the film would evaporate or sublimate in the vacuum. Yes, I agree that a white camera housing is 3 times less efficient at absorbing infrared (heat) than a black housing would be. However, the film used can't even take +/-50C never mind Plus/Minus 100's of Celsius! Whilst I have not seen experimental results of subjecting a 1960's Hasselblad camera to various external temperatures/pressures and measuring the temperature of the film (and MORE IMPORTANTLY: the quality of the subsequent pictures taken!) and can therefore not offer a universal equation (or mathematical model as you call it) I believe the suggested operating conditions required for delicate colour film in space are so ludicrous in the extreme that an equation isn't required!
Point 3: the Van Allen Belt is a layer supplied by the earth's magnetic field which stops most of the sun's ionising radiation from reaching us and 'burning us to a crisp'. Astronauts in orbit (well below the Van Allen Belt) have many small holes running through their spacesuits (and bodies) on their return (pictures of astronauts helmets have been shown in many magazines, encyclopaedias and on TV documentaries). Outside the belt, I shudder to think what would happen to a human or any other animal.
Point 4: There is no way I'm going to have a go at calculus again so you can forget about getting any polynomial expansions or higher order integrals from me (I have no idea where my notes from uni are, either!)
Point 5 (for Ashtongray): many people from NASA and the US services HAVE come forward but have been instantly discreditted by the US authorities and in many cases 'institutionalised into a corrective facility' (the US is NOT a free country!). Even Edwin 'Buzz' Aldrin spent a long time receiving psychiatric help...er..."to come to terms with the spiritual experience of his time in space"...er..."so close to God!"...er...or was it just to help him over living a lie? If you hear the same lie often enough you start believing it.

I'm sorry, little tyke, you are a closed minded pillock easily indoctrinated because you "saw it on the telly, dur!" I like an interesting debate but am extremely wary of anyone who read something "In the Sun so it must be true"!

Why did all the radio HAM's in 1969 claim that the signals from Messers. Armstrong and Aldrin were mere reflections from the moon? However, a few months later (remember, they all had government licences which they didn't want to lose) they all shut up!

The last man was (officially!) on the moon in 1971. Why haven't we been back in 31 years?

In the mid-90's the head on NASA (damn name escapes me) said in an interview, "We don't have the technology to go to the moon and back today!" After a media frenzy, he gave another broadcast saying he meant to add, "...safely" to the end of his sentence but had...er...other things on his mind. During the second interview he looked like he'd spent a couple of days in a concentration camp! Draw your own conclusions.

[ashtongray] 24/7/2002 21:07

Most of us here prefer Felix + Thomas Cat Treats, with half a dozen mixed budgies to go, please.

[bionicdog] 24/7/2002 21:07

who's bringing the air? most parties on the moon tend to lack atmosphere.
boom boom mr derek boom boom.

[little tyke] 24/7/2002 21:05

simple~! We all go to the moon to watch the show. I'll bring the whiskey and bitter, you bring the winalot.

[bionicdog] 24/7/2002 21:04

hang on , i've got it.
i bet that most life on earth survives , but i'll cop it.
then i'll go to ladbrokes to pick up my winn.... er no , that's not it either.

[bionicdog] 24/7/2002 21:01

come to think of it , how will i pick my winnings up?
i haven't really thought this one through.

[vs] 24/7/2002 21:00

bionic, with this sort of event, it would be safer to go for a each way bet.
Also bet with 2 different bookies in case one doesn't feel like paying up after the event.

[eurofox] 24/7/2002 21:00

I forecast a house price collapse if this thing hits us