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CUP Cupid

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0.00 (0.00%)
10 May 2024 - Closed
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Cupid Investors - CUP

Cupid Investors - CUP

Share Name Share Symbol Market Stock Type
Cupid CUP London Ordinary Share
  Price Change Price Change % Share Price Last Trade
0.00 0.00% 18.00 01:00:00
Open Price Low Price High Price Close Price Previous Close
18.00 18.00
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Posted at 08/4/2014 04:40 by bubble pricker
This results debacle also goes to show that the so called "institutional investors" are just as hopeless when it comes to investing as retail mug punters such as J777J. Cheerleaders of a stock always celebrate when a fund or an institution buy shares, as if they somehow know better. But they don't. In fact, "instos" are worse at investing, because they are under pressure to deploy funds. What would clients of a "recovery fund" say if the fund manager was sitting on their cash saying "we haven't found any viable recovery plays yet"? So, the instos have to invest in whatever moves and somehow fits the investment theme of the fund in question.

So let's get this straight here: the institutional investors, including Toscafunds, have gotten CUP totally and utterly wrong. There is no growth, no profits, no turnaround and all the nice cash is getting burnt up on "marketing".

Whatever you do as an investor, do not put your money in mutual investment funds. They guarantee only one thing: underperformance. It has to be this way. Since the "fund managers" are no better at guessing than the average mug punter, funds will produce average returns minus the management fees.
Posted at 06/3/2014 00:27 by hezza123
Yeah, spotted that. Certainly explains why the share price remains resilient in spite of the constant PI selling. The fund in question has averaged just shy of 31% per annum since 2010, so their continued interest, along with Jeroen Bos's fund, is certainly reassuring.

"Kestrel Opportunities acquires significant holdings in high quality, profitable smaller companies that we identify as undervalued. We then work closely with management teams to unlock latent value and so deliver long-term capital growth for our investors."
Posted at 12/2/2014 09:45 by m1das_touch
Bought a few of these today - price seems to have bottomed out, institutional investors adding to their holdings, should be cash rich after asset sales, 3p dividend already promised for the summer.

I'm sure it will take a while for reputation to be restored, but this is exactly the kind of company I love to buy into for recovery - bombed out, hated, but with strong recovery / growth prospects and a juicy yield.
Posted at 30/1/2014 18:16 by spottedlurcher
J777J what would this board do without you and think you may be right there,at this price perfect for take over-but on a side note I did ring Cup investor relations department and even though they did not say anything one was or another I did get the vibe that they were more positive and that we may be a positive surprise when data is released to the market in the next month or so. why they do not tell us now is a mystery but new CEO ,newdirection and the growing use of mobile apps for dating to me looks like a positive sign, GLA
Posted at 11/11/2013 09:46 by bubble pricker
Hezza, what you continuously overlook is that, even if the 45m somehow come home, a business with no future has zero value.

As for your ridiculous assertion of "the shorting brigade keeping this down", this is a reflection of your complete lack of understanding of how a market works. Shorters, just like long investors, establish their position once (or perhaps through multiple trades) and then wait for the share price to hopefully fall. In order to "keep this down" shorters would have to continuously keep selling, i.e. constantly increasing their short position. That is a ridiculous notion. Just as long investors would not continuusly buy more and more just to "keep it up". The reason the share price is not rising, as you hope, is simple: there are not enough new investors buying to outweigh those that are selling.

By the way, I was forced out of my short position two months ago by my broker due to lack of available borrow. I made a few p on my short, but now I am just watching out of interest. Also, Evil Knievil does not list Cupid amongst his "bearish" positions on his newsletter any more. So you should stop blaming others for your bad investment decisions.
Posted at 29/8/2013 07:37 by j777j
"For years, decades even, mainstream investors have been allocating capital to ever larger and more liquid assets. One consequence of this trend – acute lack of investment in quoted smaller companies – has created pricing anomalies and a classic value-driven, contrarian opportunity."

"Kestrel Opportunities acquires significant holdings in high quality, profitable smaller companies that we identify as undervalued. We then work closely with management teams to unlock latent value and so deliver long-term capital growth for our investors."





18 march 2013




Kestrel Investment Partners (Kestrel) announces that it has reached its target of raising £50 million of new capital for the Kestrel Opportunities fund. Due to the fund's limited capacity, it is now closed to new subscriptions.

Max Royde, Chief Executive of Kestrel, says: "We are very pleased to have reached our target capital raise which is a testament to the success of our strategy and the performance of the Kestrel Opportunities fund to date.

There are still plenty of exciting investment opportunities for us and we look forward to investing our remaining cash over the coming months and generating attractive returns for our clients.

Now that the fund is closed to new subscriptions, we will do our best to satisfy any future demand by matching up buyers with existing investors as and when they decide to sell shares".
Posted at 09/5/2013 11:32 by j777j
My understanding is they will be liable for the 3p dividend due next month.


Investopedia..
"When you short a stock, you are borrowing the stock from an investor or broker, then selling those shares on the open market to a second investor. Even though you borrowed and sold the shares to another investor, the transaction between you and the lender is still listed on the books as if the lender is still long on the stock and you are short on the stock (even though that person no longer owns the stock).

Because that original investor who was kind enough to lend you the stock is no longer an actual shareholder with the company, the short seller is required to make up for any benefits the investor would have received had he or she actually still owned the stock.

In other words, if a company pays a dividend to shareholders, the second investor who bought the shares from the short seller would get the dividend check from the company. But because the original investor is no longer a shareholder of record (because the second investor owns those shares now), then the short seller must pay the dividend out of his or her own pocket.


Finally, when the short seller decides to close out the short position, he or she buys shares on the open market (from a third investor) and then gives the shares back to the original investor, who closes out the short position and puts everything back to square one."
Posted at 07/3/2013 18:37 by report_reader
@Wh1spa: Just a quick observation I made on the increase in net short position by Trembant and Ennismore on the 06/03. What better way to help knock the share price even lower than to open another short position just when personal investors are discovering they have increased their short position on the previous days FY12 results day.

Here's my guess on the mechanism for 06/03 massive drop...

(1) Personal investor wakes up on the 06/03 and checks the FSA register to see if the short traders had closed or reduced their net short positions due to the previous days FY12 excellent results day.

(2) Personal investor is in shock and disbelief that they have infact increased their position on the 05/03.

(3) Personal investor is scared and decides that the shorter must have far superior knowledge to them on this company and/or insider knowledge.

(4) Personal Investor is so scared he/she heads for the sell button or sets a stop loss order just incase the stock price drop any lower.

(5) Short position holder knows this is likely to happen as they're a pro at this game and have seen it so many times before. And with the help of some sophisticated technical analysis software and an automated computer based trading bot the short position holder decides to help take out the stop loses by placing lots of trades often for exactly the same value in quick succession to test for stop losses whilst not over exposing each value of individual trade they make to achieve this (Often wonder why the latest trades display loads of trades for exactly the same value often seperated by only 1 second at a time?)
Well there's your answer..

This of course causes a domino effect with the share price dropping more and more and sends more and more personal investors to the sell and stop loss order section of their broker accounts, until eventually the share price gets so rediculously low that the people who haven't sold don't want to sell and the people sitting on the side lines who haven't invested are hovering their finger over the buy buttons in anticipation of a bargain.

This I believe is what happened on 06/03, as today the share price is up over 5% and has recovered over all to 11.42% higher from yesterdays low of 105p.

Just a few thoughts...
Posted at 06/3/2013 23:22 by report_reader
@Robotface: Short sellers take out short positions on companies for a variety of reasons. Some due to fundamentals, some due to market sentiment and some due to scare mongering.

My opinion is that the shorters have taken their positions for a combination of reasons..

(1) A small short position in the overall company market value of an AIM stock actually represents a larger percentage of the free floated company stocks.
(2) Negative publicity is enough to send unresearched personal investors heading for the sell button or placing stop losses that can easily be shorted through to cause a sustained drop in the share price.
(3) The overall stock markets of the world are at historically high levels, personal investors are very edgy as they believe the next market correction could be round the corner.
(4) Personal investors watch the short position register and the minute they see a short position increasing they automatically assume the short holder must know more than them an immediately sell the stock in fear of losing.

A fine example of number 4 would be today. If you notice yesterday the stock was up around 3% in morning trading and then reached as low as 4% lower on the same day. This I believe was due to Tremblant & Ennismore increasing their short position. Even though the short increase was very small against overall market value and a small increase of their overall individual short position, it represents a higher overall percentage of the free floated stocks. This bigger percentage shows a bigger daily drop, takes out a substantial number of stop losses set by personal investors and sends other personal investors to the sell buttons. So taking out a short when results were good is an excellent example of shorters playing against people's fears.
This was further confirmed today, that personal investors sell when they see institutions going short. The FSA only published on the 06/03 that Tremblant and Ennismore had increased their short positions on the previous day of the 05/03. So when this was published there was an immediate and sustained drop in the share price bigger than the previous days trading, when absolutely no additional fundamental evidence was released on the 06/03. This proves shorters can manipulate the market using fear. I wouldn't be surprised if they took out further small increases in their short positions just to help take out more stop losses set by personal investors as the domino effect was in full flow.


There's a few reasons, but here's a one of the reasons I continue to hold this stock...

Short positions remain totally unprofitable and a financial liability until they are closed because the short holder has to pay interest and fees on their short positions until they give them back to the actual stock owner. To close a short position the company holding the short position must buy back the stocks in order to make any profit. So it's a waiting game to wait the shorters out. If they get to a point where they think there's no more money in it for them and they risk losing some of their paper gains, they will close their positions and it will be a race to close before the other shorters, because whoever closes last makes less profit than the next guy.
Posted at 14/2/2013 14:31 by report_reader
Hi,

Here's an observation I made... 67% of the issued share capital is held by the directors and institutional investors. The directors can't sell until 06/2013. So assuming the institutional investors don't sell their holdings (which would give them a nasty loss given when they bought) then there is only so far this stock can drop. Given the recent drop from 200p to around 130p, then I don't see this having much further to go unless the institutional investors sell at a big loss.

The shorters have only sold 4.09% of the stock going according to the FSA's website, so the real and main reason for the large percentage drop we've seen recently is down to personal investors selling, or being manipulated out of their holdings but he shorting triggering stop loss orders.

This could be a good entry point given the above info. Further to that fundamentally this company appears to be sound with good growth prospects.

Just a thought...

Regards,

RR

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