BSkyB Share Discussion Threads

[albany30] 14/2/2014 20:27

Require another RNS to burst the 900 ceiling it would appear. Could be the European rugby deal share with BT would be enough esp when we agree BSY is still undervalued?Let's hope this - or another deal - on the way, to coincide with the Vodafone / Verizon quantitative easing the UK share market is about to receive!

[ssvsjs2] 13/2/2014 17:01

bbc 1-2-itv 1-chan 4 no longer available in canaries. big piece in the local paper also said most dishes will be no good with very few exceptions and that all dishes in mainland spain will no longer work. apparently there is a new sat that reduces the footprint to just uk & ireland is uses 2 smaller beams. i have just come back from tenerife and bbc 1-2 went about a week ago the others yesterday.

[minerve] 11/2/2014 20:52

Thanks. Now edited. :)

[richard xi] 11/2/2014 20:37

Licence contracts Minerve.

[minerve] 11/2/2014 15:29

Who knows? Investing in technology and policing usage probably costs more than allowing a few low-lifes to play out their wise-guy games. Bad PR though.

I know that a while back paying subscribers (who were supposed to be UK resident) were purchasing encryption cards (via UK addresses) and making subscription payments when receiving the signals in mainland Europe, which due to licensing contracts, they weren't allowed to do. So, it sort of works both ways, and if you introduce too much control you may eliminate revenue of illegal use as well as the illegal revenue losses.

I do not know if this still goes on.

[harvester] 11/2/2014 14:39

RE: my trading: you may be right, ALB .

Re fraud: I hope that is the case . Shame that they can't make the encryption secure enough to stop the scam .

[albany30] 11/2/2014 13:12

You're out too early, harvester tho at least retaining a position for takeover dividend possibilities. Gearing up for the 900 breach just now.Re fraudsters, that's nothing new. Question is how many of the population engage in that (ie get their tv via 'off the back of a van' decoders)? Very few, and that minority won't pay for anything, ever so it won't affect share price or BSY future.

[harvester] 11/2/2014 13:04

Further reduced my BSY share position selling today @899.605
Retaining a small share position and small september long call spread position .
Not sure if my timing was good , considering that ex divi date coming up in early March.
News that fraudsters are able to break sky encryption and selling decoders is worrisom.
I wonder how widespread it is . I hope they crack down hard on that.

[philo124] 11/2/2014 10:13

Having another attempt at £9.

[undervaluedassets] 10/2/2014 08:49

Pierre and Albany.

Come on...

[essentialinvestor] 07/2/2014 15:02

The market cap is the best part of £15 Billion, there are muti million £'s worth
of shares traded each day, what anyone on a free bulletin board, posts, thinks,
does, makes not even a tiny blip of difference to the share price.

[albany30] 06/2/2014 13:07

Monty's back on the BT board, tremendous reading!Insisting BT is about to fly through 400 and 450 . . . just like the old days. Can a company carrying such a pension deficit and a third world customer service really fly? We shall see!

[pierre oreilly] 06/2/2014 09:41

Albany30 5 Feb'14 - 12:21 - 11863 of 11868 0 0

2014 for BT will be 'The Year of the Regulator' where BTs notorious customer service is finally dragged through the wringer and customers see BT forced to address their disdain for their service faults via a series of considerable fines.

Alb, ref this post of yours yesterday on the bt board, a share you don't hold I think, I wonder if you are getting Sky and BT mixed up here? Is there any basis that the regulator will be investigating BT later this year? Coukld you supply a reference if it wasn't simply made up in your own head? I know there's an investigation into bt's pricing visibility, but you seem to be imagining all sorts of other investigations. I ask because I have read they are investigating sky for their cancellation policy, where people (some in their 80s) have correctly canceled and yet still had debt collectors appointed by sky to pursue non-existent debts. What do you think of this policy? I'm sure you'll agree with me that the regulator should come down like a ton of bricks on sky for the considerable worry debt collectors cause by knocking on the doors of 80 year olds who have done nothing wrong at all. But please get your facts correct - it's sky the regulators are investigating over this cancellation policy, not bt.

Also, I see Murdoch has indirectly sold half a millions worth of sky shares today like many days in fact. Could you let us know how many Murdoch has sold this last couple of months?

[pierre oreilly] 05/2/2014 12:49

Alb, here's my reposne to another of your posts today on the BT board, a share which I presume you don't hold, this time about unspecific regulatory investigations into bt ...

I think the regulator will be too busy next year sorting out the situation of sky sending in the bailiffs to 85 year olds who had already canceled, along with many others. Great way of keeping customers - bin their cancellation requests and send in the heavies when the direct debits are stopped. Maybe they are Australian business practices, but I'm sure the regulator will tell them otherwise after their current on-going detailed investigations into sky's cancellation policy.

[albany30] 05/2/2014 12:45

Let's try again for the 'benefit' of those who don't you have on filter, Rodney, because we all know you haven't answered the question;Why, as a BSY non-shareholder do you spend every day on this message board, trolling?What is wrong with your life that EVERY DAY, you have to post on a financial message board for a share you do not hold?Very simple, and this is my final comment to you. Mange tout Rodney, mange tout!

[pierre oreilly] 05/2/2014 12:37

The positive is this troll's postings have coincided with BSYs share price improving from 770 to almost 900 in around 2 months.

Albany, I have requested before that you desist from lying.

[pierre oreilly] 05/2/2014 12:33

Alb, to answer your sky ramping post on the bt board (a share you have no holding in I presume) about talktalk offering sky sports for a tenner.

Well that's fine for those talktalk customers who like tiddlywinks, but surely the majority of sports customers want to watch football, and for that, sky will have less to offer from now on. If talktalk customers want to watch champions league games, it's absolutely no use them giving a tenner for sky's sports service now is it. Premium football is king, and I'm afraid Sky have had a forced abdication.

In the same way that Sky couldn't afford the cl, then I expect they won't be able to afford the premiership rights too, since a competitor 3 times the size f sky has said it's determined to get those off sky too. Not sure how many hundreds of millions the current sky share price support has cost them, but every penny spent supporting thre share price is a penny not available for even attempting a bid for the premiership.

[albany30] 05/2/2014 12:01

Minerve - yes, also true. BSY exercising buy backs when there's 'blood on the streets' too . . .

[albany30] 05/2/2014 11:59

BSY did several buy backs when the share price dropped after the Champs League over reaction - why? Because they viewed the share as under priced, a fundamental reason for buying stock. Same as the posters on here who bought BSY stock (on that note, any weirdos here who don't hold BSY but just want a bit of company?).These buy backs also show the company's belief in its own stock, of course. The buy back yesterday was to cancel the shares, which creates fewer shares in circulation, which in turn increases the value of the remaining shares. Shouldn't be any confusion about what BSY are doing.Harvester - I rate your comments but Pierre O'Reilly aka Rodney O'Troll has an increasing profile on advfn's 'most filtered' list for a reason. It's not worth engaging a lonely oddball who wants someone to hold his hand in the big bad world of share trading . . . a BSY non-shareholder spending every lonely day on BSY's boards? Your garden variety troll is young Rodney. Sad, very sad.Anyway, BSY have been proactive in every area since BT - who have announced nothing since October - started putting their hand in the air, and that includes the actual stock. Also sounds like BT have another battle on the go . . . with Talk Talk.Continuing in the manner of the last six weeks, 900 should be tested imminently. Not that I want to sound like BTs guru, monty of course.

[pierre oreilly] 05/2/2014 10:28

if previous days are to go by, the rise is due to more buybacks, and consequently it will be overpriced which will atract sellers.

If I were a trader following the strategy I detailed yesterday for exploiting sky buybacks, I'd have 2 grand profit today, and at this point switch from long to short, to pick up another 2 grand on the way down.

[nightowl1] 05/2/2014 10:17

All the way up to a tenner this time!

[minerve] 05/2/2014 10:09

Buybacks are viewed differently depending on your investment position. If you are short-term, you are only interested in the dividend. If you are long-term, then probably happier to support share buybacks as well as dividend distribution. At least with the buyback, the company still has control over the equity/capital. Once a dividend is paid, that's it. With the increasing huge costs of Premiership and other sports escalating it makes sense for BSkyB to be using buy-backs; also, when we are exiting a very weird economic period as we have just experienced.