Zoo Digital Share Discussion Threads

[jacobjohn7] 19/2/2010 11:25

only redeeming factor for zoo is the that the share price has been way more resliant than I ever imagined at this level. Case of waiting whichever avenue we go down I suppose. But one is a lock in, the other on the way up would be flexible to get in.

[jacobjohn7] 19/2/2010 11:22

if they take the greed factor out of new releases, then dvd sales would be better, zoo's tech (if it ever moves into another studio as part of its infrastructure) will help bring the costs down to do this, give the punters a sensible priced package it would be hardly worth the illegal downloaders messing about...
I personally can't find the balls to get back in here, being not in, has been a lot better for my health and wealth. But reckon on a knife edge as to what the next RNS will be... cash call/new deal. As usual with zoo it seems that close a ratio between one or the other, historically we have had more of the former than the illusive latter.

[magnetincognito] 10/2/2010 21:15

downloading and streaming are not quite the same but nevertheless
film studios are having a hard time in the courts,

Feb. 4 (Bloomberg) -- Hollywood's biggest movie studios, including Walt Disney Co. and Paramount Pictures, lost a suit seeking to stop customers of Australia's Iinet Ltd. from illegally downloading movies in a ruling that may set a precedent for the industry.

[siwel100] 08/2/2010 09:29

deanroberthunt....Graboid and all the other film streaming sites are illegal.

[deanroberthunt] 20/1/2010 12:15

why buy dvds...

I've just bought a 50" tv.....I now stream all films, series direct from my HD 1080 Laptop via a HDMI cable....

I use "Graboid" to download the films, I get 50GB for £9/mth, which works out at about 100+ films every month (depending on the size of each)...the quality of the films are very good...and I have even watched new releases Like Avatar etc...

its a legal site, cos they are allowed to do this cos you can't save the films to any other place than the Graboid save file.....eventually you have to delete some as the file becomes overblown...but since you can watch so many films a month, then you just download it again if you want to watch it more than once....

[jacobjohn7] 19/1/2010 13:42

yeah magnet, it is paid by the product, regardless of sales. Obviously some have more features than others though.

[magnetincognito] 19/1/2010 12:02

is it true to say zoo get paid the same for each dvd movie released, regardless of the amount of sales? the industry seems to be in a bit of a crisis,

[deanroberthunt] 08/1/2010 12:36

better plays out there...

the begging bowl is just a matter of time....

its worth another punt at half the current mcap or share price

[jacobjohn7] 06/1/2010 13:31

thanks sewil, its all a question of timing of additional deals now, as the present deals and the change to $ reporting it looks like being on the threshold of breakeven perenially. the share price I think is high at present considering the doubt on cash levels that has sadly re-emerged. I have doubts, but there will be better of risk/reward ratio here if the share price was at a lower level.
I can understand as no one wants to buy at present, and alot of holders stuck on huge losses thanks to consolidations etc, thats assuming they didn't average down abit when they had chance, so not much point crystalising massive losses.
Something I have done a couple of times in the past with zoo. Just need more deals as usual and they can make it through, but an additional full studio deal has been in the offing since 2003-4.

[siwel100] 06/1/2010 08:54

jacobjohn....Not many options, either the convertible loan is extended or a sale of the company is arranged, the loan wont be converted.
The decision is not really in the hands of the company unless they can get the earnings up and therefore the share price well over 50p and stand a fighting chance of converting the loan to more standard borrowings or a fundraising.
Not an impossibility but given the timescale I would guess an extension.
Its not a real problem for the company other than the loan being a hanging weight on the results due to £/$ conversion, although I imagine they would be well miffed if a sale was pushed through sub 50p.
The company is doing just fine, its more a question of fair value when you add the loan to the mkt cap, its just not cheap at the moment. That will change either when the profits grow or the share price falls. As always, patience required.
imo

[jacobjohn7] 05/1/2010 10:29

What will happen to market cap when the convertable loans are taken into account? As the directors are getting above market rate interest payments on these loans. But not sure what would be best for the current zoo. Any ideas.

[bodgit] 02/1/2010 20:57

I look forward to hearing soon from ZOO about the Translation Management System being evaluated by clients, the other web based solutions in the pipeline and the commercialisation of copy protection of video content. Something, anything to lift the share price will be very welcome, at least to me. Good luck all.

[bodgit] 31/12/2009 11:37

Best wishes to all ZOO shareholders for a healthy and prosperous 2010.

[jacobjohn7] 24/12/2009 00:11

not been watching that avenue magnet...? let me know if there is an angle there?

[magnetincognito] 22/12/2009 21:11

no news on twitter either ;-)

[jacobjohn7] 21/12/2009 13:10

the loans are a big problem going forward. The business has to do that bit better to accomodate them, for FY this year we know its going to be another loss, but maybe 2011 they might get an actual net profit.

[siwel100] 19/12/2009 11:13

The change to $ reporting has created a no win situation for zoo. The £ weakens and profits climb, but £/$ conversion of the convertible loan creates a paper loss. Nowt to do with how the business is doing in the real world but will create results perception problems from now until the convertible loan note is dealt with. A shame really.

[jacobjohn7] 15/12/2009 14:03

a tad surprised its holding on a this share price .. and no volume for days.

[investinggarden] 10/12/2009 11:20

Currency change clips Zoo Digital

[2millionaire] 08/12/2009 09:34

jj have to agree, has the company really not got a few grand in petty cash? Have only a few of these (thank god) and not sure exactly how many after all the consolidation etc. I'm afraid it may be a case of a final fundraising to leech some cash out of the city before the inevitable but at what price given their history would the city give them cash? Just hope no one is in too deep here and like me, had a bit of fun money in.

[jacobjohn7] 08/12/2009 08:30

you would have thought they would have tried to stop/delay a sale like that or soaked it up in-house, for the sake of how much it actually was, market perception and all could do more damage to confidence of shareholders.

[ninalog] 07/12/2009 20:25

may have a wild punt at threpence but when the gaffers are selling out then spew time.

nina