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| Share Name | Share Symbol | Market | Stock Type |
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| Chill Brands Group Plc | ZOE | London | Ordinary Share |
| Price Change | Price Change % | Share Price | Last Trade
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| 0.00 | 0.00% | 37.625 | 01:00:00 |
| Open Price | Low Price | High Price | Close Price | Previous Close |
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| 37.625 |
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Posted at 15/8/2021 22:58 by theanalyst1 Echo you do make a good point - in addition to all the money squandered on death spiral exits, the Chill domain name, Rodeo marketing, they also likely are blowing perhaps a million quid for Novel Foods. Unlike any other product that can just be sold, if you want to play in CBD then you must have novel foods - consider it a large tax to be allowed to the start line. So you had better make some serious sales to cover that cost on top of all other costs and then to make profits which is kind of what is needed to deliver some earnings across which to divide 220m shares to work out an EPS on which investors can better value a company. So with Zoetic having been plugging it's products in the Uk for over a year now i'm very excited to see what sales the brand has generated especially relative the the large costs it's paid as Ramp points out. As he is writing the RNS he will have first sight but for the rest of us the wait won't be long. I predict absolutely did all sales across the 21 SKUs in UK |
Posted at 14/8/2021 09:45 by terminator101 You really have no idea mate, the sums you are talking about are small for a spreadbet trader. Dealing with the overvalued end of the aim market is easy money. There are a few things you need.1. a share whose market cap has grown out of proportion to its value. Check2. A following of herd investors who think they are gods gift to investing because their overvalued fluff has gone up. Check3. Overexposed PIs who don't want to listen to the bear case. Check4. A Board that promise the earth but don't deliver. Check Easy money mate. Its the most obvious short position on the market. |
Posted at 14/8/2021 09:07 by pierre oreilly I'm very happy thx term.Mainly because I don't get my pleasure from trying to ripoff my fellow investors, which I should imagine leaves a sour taste in your mouth. Even if I did enjoy ripping people off or just seeking attention I wouldn't bother shorting which, for pis these days, means dealing for the tens of quid, or at best, low hundreds of quid, profit. But 80% lose their total betting deposit. (Not me saying that, they are official figures).Shorters are kid penny punters. At least the government, via the retail SB/cfd companies, stop you kids losing too much these days. Too many have lost their homes in the past when margin requirements were 5%.Don't mind shorting at all, but dislike deramping (and ramping). |
Posted at 13/8/2021 11:57 by pierre oreilly Analyst, i can understand you feel bad and need to be in denial mode.The facts are things are not as you state. You didn't think 'this is overvalued, I'll short and fundamentals will drive it down' Your thought process was 'this is high and may be overvalued and it's a prime target to short and deramp, hoping to drive the price down by scaring buyers into sellers. Your whole intention was to basically steal off fellow investors., not to watch an overvalued company fall back naturally to a fair price. You wouldn't have posted at all, let alone several times per day, if that were the case. But i doubt you are even shorting. Just wanting to buy in cheaper. Who are you shorting with? and how much pp? (that means 'per point', i doubt you know that) |
Posted at 08/8/2021 09:48 by pierre oreilly Terminator. Your comments apply to all early stage companies.The stock market is there to enable new companies to grow. It always takes several years for new companies to make a profit. During which time they raise cash in the markets from investors who see the potential future profits. The value of the company grows even though some years from profitability.You are just scaremongering in a generic way. Placings - of course there'll be placings, that's how new businesses are funded. Often, a placing is at a discount, and the price temporarily drops before recovering and going onto the next level which the placing enabled. It's best to understand that and for investors to see the other side.You are just a pillock effectively trying to stop a new business which is trying to ease pain in people where other painkillers don't work. Go and do something useful to mankind instead of destructive. Try a better way to earn a crust than shorting and slagging. Traders usually lose the lot anyhow. |
Posted at 26/7/2021 12:19 by theanalyst1 Not sure Tonyda thats one for the management and brokers to answer. First thought is that thy had just put in place the death spiral finance for access to £30m if i recall and they clearly didnt understand that product, hence paying £1.2m to get straight out of it once the downside was flagged by investors, but perhaps at that point they thought they were fully funded. Alternatively they may have tried to raise money at £1 which would have valued the business at £220m for a start up so were shown the door by investors? Alternatively with the spiral set to be cancelled leaving them broke they were told when marketing no doubt at 80p+ that investors would only play at 60p with the dilutive half warrant (never really seen that in London) which was an effective underlying price of sub 50p....and that is where it is sitting around now.The reality is that they will need a lot more money to develop this global story they are peddling and i suspect no new money will come until tehy prove they have a real business hence why the next update is critical. A real business doesnt mean they have a distribution agreement for lots of stores it means proper revenues and profits. So all that matters at the next update is not all of the smoke an mirrors about stores, new websites, exciting UK launches and all the other stuff that will run to pages but rather the numbers and KPIs. If they disappoint on those now this will take a huge lurch down. My gut is that we wont be offered any of the key indicators and stats, it will just be a wordy update and that will also disappoint once people read through it. |
Posted at 06/7/2021 16:50 by theanalyst1 As to your comments about being short that's not a comment that covers you in glory. There is no difference between short and long positions other than opinions as to where the price will go. Investors have been long and short since the beginning of investing time. That's how the market works it's only the bulls that whinge about people taking the opposite view to them. That's because there are more longs than shorts as many investors aren't comfortable being short....and that's why when you go to IG it tells you on the home page that 72 per cent of people lose on IG...because 90 pct are long only. Shorts should be part of all portfolios. Long when cheap and sell or short when expensive. That's why I'm short Zoetic and I've done my work, read all the smoke and mirrors releases, seen the sales and I recognise that this is simply not worth even half of the currrnt price so why can't I profit from that observation. Just because Echo and Citizen scream blue mirder doesn't make them right and as this is proving they are wrong and will continue to lose their money. |
Posted at 16/6/2021 11:31 by theanalyst1 ahhh thanks for clearing that up EchoWaffle. I agree with you that its a complete waste of time that hasnt attracted any new investors, trades no volume as nobody wants to pay this daft price and was simply a marketing gimmick.Though per below it is another example of a misleading RNS where they proudly tell us that it will create new interest and demand from an established community of investors. Looks like that community of savvy investors want nothing to do with this pile of poo. Glad you agree it was a waste of time and just more fluff. |
Posted at 19/5/2021 06:45 by daphe2 Please have a read one all allNERALSTOCK BASHERS.BY DAN LEVI ยท 15 DECEMBER, 2009Identifying a Stock BasherCountless investors find their way to the message boards only to see false posts about company news, "problems" and "Share Price Correction." Such boards are filled with bashers using a variety of aliases, posting false or misleading information, all in all making it very difficult for a newcomer to tell fact from fiction.For nervous investors, it is often easier to sell the stock and put the money in the bank. These are the people on whom the bashers prey. Bashers bet on a stock to go down and they do their best to help it happen. They are not concerned with the risk of losing money like the average investor, because they are usually paid to bash the stock. In other words, they are not using their personal funds and are not actually investing themselves, or at least not in that stock. Additionally, bashers do not wait for the markets to go up or down; they make them move themselves. Bashers use fear, lies, and falsehoods to prey on the nervous investor, thus influencing the markets in their favour. Lesson 1Bashers never bash bad stocks. You can watch the board for stocks with no potential. You'll see pretty quickly that those stocks don't have bashers. Bashers only go after stocks that are going upwards or have excellent potential to go up. Bashers get left behind, so they want to bring the price down. Lesson 2Bashers bring up old news that you have heard many times. All companies always have a few bits of bad news. The basher will post these bits over and over again. The stupid basher will try to make the old news a bit fresher to try to fool you. Don't be fooled! Lesson 3Bashers post many times a day. They try to wear you out. They comment on everything, every other post, and can answer every question. To hear them say it, they know it all.There is no positive comment they won't bash. They try to control the board with their negativity. If they seem to be working on this one stock full time, that's because they are! Even more than full-time. Lesson 4Bashers will lie to your face (or your keyboard). Never trust a basher. The truth on most companies is that mistakes are made and losses happen. The basher will try to make you believe all companies make a profit, release financials every quarter, and have all aspects of the business running smoothly from the start. This is not true. Anyone who says it is true is either lying or ignorant. Don't listen to either kind. Small AIM companies can go years without profits; this is the nature of the beast. Lesson 5Bashers know that you can't verify their statements. That's why they make the statements they do. You can't check them out and you may just believe them and then they win. Either way, they don't lose. Lesson 6Bashers play on your lack of knowledge. They count on the fact that they can lie about information and you won't know the difference. And you won't, unless you have done your assessment of the company and know truth from lie. Lesson 7Bashers play on your lack of patience. You have held a stock for a while, knowing it will be a big stock someday. The basher can get to you because you are tired of waiting for your gain. When you are getting your plan, you are ripe for a bashing. You are tired and you've forgotten that the goal for the stock was to hold it for one year, then see where it stands. The basher is bothersome and tiring, so you dump it on a bad day and so do others. Then you get angry about your loss and you return to the board to let everyone know how mad you are. Congratulations, you too have become a basher. The basher has won and gained a new, unwitting, partner. At this point the basher will buy low and become a pumper, maybe using a new alias, and will try to reverse the trend. Your loss becomes the basher's gain as your stock rises after you sell it. Lesson 8The basher is all about bringing the price down. That is the nature of a basher. The truth is not important; lies are the norm. They are trying to hit the newbies visiting the board for the first time, so they post continuously throughout the day. They are trying to wear out the longs on the board and they will do whatever it takes to do so. Lesson 9Bashers will try to create doubt and get you to research items that they know will lead to the creation of doubt in you and in other stockholders. A typical trick of an advanced basher is to propose that there is a potential "problem" because "we" don't have the facts on a particular subject. The basher dares someone in the group to find out the answer to the question. The basher already knows the answer and knows what you will find. The power of this tactic is that the basher is now in control of the actions of the stockholders; the basher has you in his web of lies. Most stockholders will do due diligence when confronted with a questionable news story. When the stockholder cannot confirm or deny the story because of too much conflicting information, the basher gains credibility. What do you do?It is important to find answers on your own terms. Pick up the phone and call the company, talk to the investor relations person or the CEO until you get a satisfactory answer. The problem here is that the advanced basher has you doing his bidding; you have essentially joined his ranks. So, develop your own little "Due Diligence Package" and answer questions by placing the information into the package. Then you can refer new investors to read your well-researched answers to questions raised in the Investor Information package.What you need to avoid is getting into a conversation with the basher himself or herself about the topic. Once you get into direct conversation with a basher, you give the basher credibility. Answer the question if you need to, but do it indirectly. Never use the basher's name. Never get into a personality contest with a basher.Lesson 10 |
Posted at 06/5/2021 07:55 by theanalyst1 Citizen, looks like the market gave you your answer yesterday - investors no longer believe the CEOs or the ramping HNWs to drove it to this bonkers valuation ;-)CitizenMatt5 May '21 - 08:50 - 7006 of 7033 Markets don’t seem to have a problem with it. Seem to see it as a positive thing. So who to believe again, you, TW and the groovy gang or the CEO’s, UHNW investors backing Zoetic??? |
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