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Zanaga Iron Ore Company Limited LSE:ZIOC London Ordinary Share VGG9888M1023 ORD NPV (DI)
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.47 8.62% 5.92 5.74 6.00 6.50 6.50 6.50 455,438 16:35:03
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Mining 0.0 -1.4 -0.5 - 17

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20/5/2020
01:12
One name I keep forgetting in all this is Paul Obambi, our congolese version of Tony Stark. I think he might be important as he's currently the only one producing Iron ore in Mayoko with Sapro after taking over Exxaro in 2016, and is currently having some very serious issues with transport and infrastucture. (you can google de-railed trains and various articles about lacking infrastructure) But the part I find interesting is that although Obambi has a substantial amount of interests in the Sapro Group of companies including mines, energy and import-export etc, his interests and COIDIC's and Zanagas all overlap a bit... Rumour from the end of last year has it that he's joined up with Aksa Energy (out of Turkey) to build the new Gas powered plant in Pointe Noire (and licensed to sell electricity generated). From what I can see this Power plant will/would be the real sign and first of any movement towards actual SEZ and possibly new port construction. Infrastructure expansion is essential for Sapro's Mayoko mine to ramp up and export some real volumes. (not the puny amounts he's struggling to get to the coast with the underpowered and scrawny rail currently in place from Mbinda) Interesting times. GTA.
gta5
19/5/2020
19:56
I would go with a buyout purely because the Chinese don't like sharing anything, well apart from viruses!
gismo
19/5/2020
16:48
UT price setting is a farce.
greenelf
19/5/2020
08:03
I have serious doubts about jv. ZIOC adds nothing to any future development. Straight bo I think. Glencore may jv.
greenelf
19/5/2020
07:26
I doubt Zanaga will be around next year. It will be bo/jv well before then
gismo
18/5/2020
10:51
Feels to me as if the world is starting to look forward again. If so then now would be a good time to crack on with this project, with a view to getting boots on the ground early next year....
emptyend
16/5/2020
17:08
Hi GTA5, Thanks for this, which I've added to a post on LSE, re COIDIC. I've quoted take-aways (boom !boom!) and extracts. I’ve been trying to get a better understanding of COIDIC and where Zanaga / ZIOC might fit in to its plans for Pointe Noire SEZ. COIDIC was set up in 2016, with technical help of World Bank, see hxxps://www.ecofinagency.com/finance/1310-35556-world-bank-will-not-invest-in-china-overseas-infrastructure-development-and-investment-corp There’s a detailed Dec 2019 writeup here hxxps://halshs.archives-ouvertes.fr/halshs-02425258/document , courtesy of GTA5 on advfn. Brief takeaways : Countries where active so far, Cameroon, Congo-B, Djibouti, Guinea , Ivory Coast and Mozambique. Seemingly, not intended to help its Chinese parastatal shareholders merely to venture abroad along the new Silk Road , rather to help them move up the value chain. Not EPC (engineering, procurement, construction), but rather BOT (build , operate, transfer), which implies some control of project revenue; BOOT (build, own, operate, transfer) – greater , but time-limited control; and – ideally- PPP (public/private partnership) – part (?) control ‘forever’;…. Of Congo B’s 4 SEZ’s announced in 2013 , Ouesso and Oyo-Ollombo were set up with help of Surbana Jurong, Brazzaville by a Mauritian entity (Black Rhino ?) and PointeNoire with help of ‘China’ , later progressed (2019) by COIDIC. [Incidentally – and curiously – for those with long memories, Singapore’s Jurong features as one of the planners involved in demarcation of PN’s proposed boundaries.] Here’s how their President Zhou Chao describes the challenges and opportunities in Africa [and, by implication, when describing the challenges facing Chinese companies, where COIDIC fits in] : Q : “ What are the current challenges and risks facing Chinese companies investing in Africa? A: It's not just objective challenges. First, most African countries have poor infrastructure, weak industrial foundations and inadequate industrial support facilities; where infrastructure requires significant and long-term upfront investment, a single company's investments often face greater risks. Second, Africa's financial environment, particularly investment financing, is immature. Some countries accustomed to various types of development aid still do not understand how infrastructure projects are financed. Third, local laws and regulations as well as infrastructure policies are likely to change with the political environment causing discontinuities or insufficient monitoring. At the same time, there are subjective challenges. First, Chinese companies do not have enough experience to internationalize. They lack investment experience and management experience abroad, they also lack a staff that understands technology, business practices and languages. Second, at present, Chinese companies that are internationalizing mainly participate in engineering projects through EPC contracts, but rarely participate in operations at both ends of the implementation chain. They have long been at the bottom of the value chain for infrastructure projects abroad. However, a merciless competition is gradually reducing the benefits of project contracts. Third, Chinese companies have a biased [Ed.: limited ?] understanding of the laws, taxation, institutional systems and cultural concepts of the countries in which they invest, and their superficial understanding of international rules is not conducive to investment “ And here’s what this is intended to mean for one of their other target countries, Guinea . For […….], read -across to Congo-Brazzaville …and what the read-across might be. “…according to the cooperation agreement signed by the two parties, the CPG [ Guinea’s version of C-B’s Ministry of Major Works ] will forward to COIDIC in the future the list of priority projects identified by […..]. After preliminary studies by the Chinese side, and after the two parties have agreed on the major projects, it will be up to COIDIC to finance them, appoint an ad hoc team to prepare a feasibility report and draft an environmental impact report and prepare a draft. Then, to help […] set up financing, COIDIC will join other Chinese financial institutions to finance well-designed projects. In addition, in order to control the extent of external debt and introduce advanced business models, the [….]government will encourage Chinese companies to invest directly, establish BOT contracts or form public-private partnerships [PPPs] to finance infrastructure construction projects in […….]. COIDIC will be able to help […..] draft, negotiate, technically evaluate franchise agreements, PPP agreements, operating and maintenance agreements, long-term purchasing service agreements, etc. Overall, COIDIC interfacing with the CGP and other institutional contractors will boost cooperation between China and […..] in infrastructure construction.” The Guinea road-map seems to match what COIDIC is said to be planning for C-B, including Zanaga/ZIOC. All grist to the mill ! NAI, DYOR, etc etc ATB
extrader
15/5/2020
18:06
A pretty good and recent write up on COIDIC for those that speak french among us: HTTPS://halshs.archives-ouvertes.fr/halshs-02425258/document GL, GTA.
gta5
14/5/2020
12:12
Haven't had a battered bat in ages :)
greenelf
14/5/2020
11:32
No surprise there as I'm not even having chinese takeaways these days
catchingmice
14/5/2020
11:22
It won't be long greenelf, the Chinese are being battered from everywhere else across the world, they will want their own iron ore supply
gismo
14/5/2020
11:21
Not long Mr Mouse, the pending RNS could take us there and that's pretty imminent by the sounds of it. I will hang on until this is a bo/jv, it won't be long after imho
gismo
14/5/2020
10:31
Good luck! Could be tomorrow? One day lady luck will smile :)Sooner hopefully..
greenelf
14/5/2020
10:30
Had a bash at 10p but we haven't broken that level but we have sustained the 8.5 - 9p level which is a +
catchingmice
14/5/2020
10:28
Big celebration when it sells 25yrs together so we've given it a good go but time we both moved on.Anyway i want 15p - 20p from this so when will that arrive?
catchingmice
14/5/2020
10:26
It makes no sense, the vaccine is now on the back boiler, it won't happen, I wonder why? Gates is under investigation and Witty and our Health Minister are in with Gates, Matt contributed $31 million, they don't want to go down with the sinking ship. Hope all goes well...
gismo
14/5/2020
10:17
"me and the wife" says it all.
greenelf
14/5/2020
10:11
Well my house is up for sale as me and the wife are going our different ways all amicable so i do welcome the news if I'm being honest.I do understand what you are saying though
catchingmice
14/5/2020
10:06
No left wing but look at Boris is advocating, it's ludicrous, you can visit one parent at a time 10 minutes apart but you can let an estate agent in to sell your house. LOLOL you think this is sane?
gismo
14/5/2020
09:31
Just like America found out, having a buffoon in charge during a crisis is no good. You get what you vote for.All the Brexit loving ijits, well done.
greenelf
14/5/2020
09:27
Yeah must be great not to be him in this current crisis so best being part of the 'SHEEP'Let's all join the herd and think we know it allPMSL
catchingmice
14/5/2020
08:18
No we need a PM with a brain. He's lost it
gismo
13/5/2020
11:30
Good i won't hear from you again
catchingmice
13/5/2020
11:19
Catchingmice; you've spammed the same unrelated message on every single board you're on. -filtered. muppet.
gta5
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