Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Woodford Patient Capital Trust Plc LSE:WPCT London Ordinary Share GB00BVG1CF25 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.70 2.39% 30.05 29.80 30.10 30.10 28.75 28.75 2,331,612 16:35:11
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Equity Investment Instruments 0.0 -3.8 -0.5 - 273

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23/8/2019
08:03
Hit today buywell3 - 13 Aug 2019 - 08:40:43 - 9700 of 9896 ::: WOODFORD PATIENT CAPITAL TRUST ::: - WPCT buywell is right 75% of the time Not going to be good day today IMO and for the rest of this week , USA investors are now properly worried. IMO the next BIGGER and SHARPER correction in the USA is very soon to gather pace buywell thinks 20,000 is likely to get hit from here , just over a 20% drop WPCT is now going to struggle Hence my previous call of 45p in the face of such MACRO events has to be revised , plus the NAV looks like dropping further towards 75p within a couple of weeks V such market drops IMO to come. 40p is my call therefore
buywell3
23/8/2019
07:59
@This_is_me - ESL isn't bad luck, any more than all the other Fat Bloke Finance punts are about luck. It's a continuing pattern, visible as far back as 2016, with a siren and flashing lights getting noisier and brighter. Dampier at HL also overweight. Just sayin'. We're not halfway through this scandal.
spectoacc
23/8/2019
07:53
WPCT seems to be suffering from a combination of stupidity (e.g. cold fusion) and bad luck( eg ESL.) I suspect that there will be real value in the shares after the knife has hit the floor, providing there is no panic dumping of the likes of ESL. ESL seems to be suffering from the new CFO making a name for himself by spectacularly throwing relatively minor accounting issues into the kitchen sink with a huge splash. It is, after all, not a fraud like CAKE. I'm just glad that I dumped my holding at a very small loss when I realised that I had invested in cold fusion.
this_is_me
23/8/2019
07:39
IH is worth ZERO.
topvest
23/8/2019
07:34
Woody has 23%. The common principle on all of these....investing in aggressive company managers. Good sales pitch, aggressive accounting, lack of integrity. Warren Buffett looks for three qualities: integrity, intelligence and energy. He warns that if people don't have integrity, the other two qualities are going to kill you. So right.
topvest
23/8/2019
07:33
surprised this isnt in the 20's...
pjj71
23/8/2019
07:29
ESLAnotherCenkos Securities Plc (Nomad & Joint Broker)Serious questions over Cenkos oversight and WIM relationship with their corporate clients...again.
kooba
23/8/2019
07:28
Another disastrous investment then... As part of the Group's review carried out in conjunction with the Group's auditors in relation to the interim results, the Board is applying a more prudent approach to revenue recognition, re-assessing the recoverability of certain receivables, as well as considering the appropriateness of certain provisions. While revenue expectations for the first half are broadly in line with previous guidance, the full impact of these items on Adjusted EBIT is unclear, but it is likely to be significantly lower than anticipated at the time of the Half Year Trading Update on 9 July 2019. As a result, the Board also intends to review the Group's current dividend policy.
topvest
23/8/2019
07:23
There will be more write-down's like this. It's inevitable. Eddie Stobart Logistics suspended pending an announcement. A well timed picture!
topvest
23/8/2019
07:23
On the ESL point - I see STOB have nearly 12% of it still. Hard to tell what's going to happen from the RNS, but suspension is rarely good. Invesco got away with having just 4.8% of ESL. As @Jonwig says, Woody has 22.9%. Wonder who picked up the c.3% that he sold..
spectoacc
23/8/2019
07:12
What a mess
hammopj
23/8/2019
07:06
ESL Woodford Investment Management Ltd. as of 05 Jul 2019 86.86m 22.90%
buywell3
23/8/2019
07:02
I did look at buying some Eddie Stobart shares a couple of years ago - it flagged up as being a decent covered yield if memory serves correctly. It was the Woodford connection that gave it more credibility too. I didn’t, much to my regret as I think the shares pretty much doubled, but of course it now looks as if it was just another land mine. Can’t imagine many now playing up links to him. More like being offered dinner with Poirot - you know that someone will end up with a nasty end.
dr biotech
23/8/2019
06:52
Maverick, sums it up. Woody is mid-ejector, and certainly isn't Top Gun.
spectoacc
23/8/2019
06:49
Another day in investment hell for WIM.Would like to think there is bad luck in all these explosions but unfortunately there are serial failures that expose a maverick approach from the top.
kooba
23/8/2019
06:45
I agree , there are no scientific papers around it's work and precious little detail of what it is up to at all...all shrouded in mystery.Be interesting to know the basis of the right down and methodology of new valuation.If the company really had made strides in the much derided cold fusion area I rather think they would be blowing their own trumpet rather than radio silence.People behind it look less than credible in the space they are meant to be operating.Any enterprise value should be challenged and justified.
kooba
23/8/2019
06:31
Negligible asset value? IH should be valued at cash - unless it has some proven tech. I know it’s not just cold fusion, but given that it has very little freely available info about any of its work there is no way to value it properly.
dr biotech
23/8/2019
06:26
WPCT: "The Board has been notified by Link that it intends to reduce the valuation of the Company's holding in IH Holdings International Limited. This is expected to impact the Company's net asset value by approximately 3.4 pence per share and will be reflected in the Company's net asset value as at 23 August 2019 (which will be announced to the market on 27 August 2019). The valuation adjustment reflects a reassessment of the current progress of the business." Just HOW do they get away with this. Anyone remember WPCT value being written up 8p, to great fanfare, thanks to the "progress" at IH? Not. Asset. Value. Knock-on effect coming on WEIF value. This is all just the beginning of the huge write-downs on comedy-valued, often self-valued unicorns IMO. Not even halfway into the Woodford scandal. Edit - @Jonwig - ESL, couldn't make it up - Fat Bloke Finance.
spectoacc
23/8/2019
06:13
Woody's Wonder Stocks No. 550, Eddie Stobart, ESL: Directorate Change, Company Update & Suspension Dodgy accounting needs restatement by the looks of it. He held 23% in June after selling down from 25%.
jonwig
23/8/2019
06:11
ESL suspended Profit warning
buywell3
22/8/2019
15:10
@stewart64 - I've some sympathy, having been in & out of WPCT a few times. And to think we're the (generally) savvy ones, posting on ADVFN, able to keep an eye on the financial press. Think of all those suckered in on HL's ceaseless ramping of Woody, including HL investing in him via their own funds (which perhaps shows how bad/compromised they really are). I still say no one should have been in WEIF by the time it gated, and no one should still be trusting Woody to manage their money within IFF. Ironic that WEIF would look a lot worse without the crazy unicorn valuations, as shown by IFF performance. Still no portfolio updates but 30th June IFF top 10 was housebuilders and sub-prime lenders (& Theravance & Paypoint). Will that bet come right? Doesn't seem an obvious one, with the doorsteppers largely untested in a recession, and housebuilders making all-time historically high margins.
spectoacc
22/8/2019
14:40
Just digressing to his " value" picks in his Focus fund. I note accumulation from March 2017 is now down to 74p on what were supposedly safe value, income plays. I have to admit that in the spring 2017 I did take note for the first time of what the great Sage was doing. And being a bit green lost money on several of his favourites not least the Provy Financial and IB. To my credit, I couldn't work out why they were value since they had ball crunching debt and massive cap. to net capital ratios, further bolstered by goodwill but heck the guy was a genius so I assumed he knew what he was doing. I have pulled back above par since my 2017 Woodford odyssey (18% return this year), Woodford's 26% down. A shocking three years for him and probably a lot of collateral damage for fools like me who noted his picks. Back in 2017 Woodford's laudable transparency was working in his favour as it brought in third party support. Not such a great idea now.
stewart64
22/8/2019
13:37
Sabina accounts are available here https://www.tisegroup.com/market/companies/6395 which shows at least at the year end they had £27m of cash. Projects are due to be finished between Apr and Sept this year so that should produce a revenue stream
cc2014
22/8/2019
13:15
Thanks @daffy. Why does all that not surprise me! Fat Bloke Finance Ponzi. Worth noting that the singular "..Only one investor.." is really all the WEIF holders. Wonder how much of that Sabina money is recoverable. And why Woody's not recovered it yet, when he willingly sold the RAVC/P's at c.20% under the market.
spectoacc
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