Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Woodford Patient Capital Trust Plc LSE:WPCT London Ordinary Share GB00BVG1CF25 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.95 3.29% 29.80 29.35 29.80 30.05 28.20 28.55 1,506,870 16:35:27
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Equity Investment Instruments 0.0 -3.8 -0.5 - 271

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15/8/2019
09:29
There has been some highly skilled ramping on the Kier thread this last week, much better than the usual. I wonder if it was a rope a dope trick to get more PI's committed so they could get the volume up and get short. Was it coincidence the ring leader, johnbuysthedips, exited just a couple of hours before it peaked out??? Prothena, ALM low. Woody looks completely jammed in PFG, it it his worst situation of all???
ltcm1
15/8/2019
09:01
The pull back of KIE is interesting. Is this just normal retrace or was the rise fuelled by rumours Woody had gone now being counter acted by the lack of TR1s?
sweet karolina2
15/8/2019
07:21
Been wondering if/when IPO is a long, tho prob too much Fat Bloke stuff gone on. SJP been selling down their Woody mandate transfers. Not seen any director buys. And still loads for Woody himself to offload, c.13% at last count. I'd consider it a much better bet than WPCT tho. NAV back in March was 115p. Even if lower now, a lot of IPO's holdings are much longer-held and more advanced than WPCT's junk. Goes to show just how wildly over-valued WPCT is - strip out the unicorns, add an overdraft and capital commitments, and compare to IPO's valuation.
spectoacc
14/8/2019
20:24
What no pictures...
diku
14/8/2019
20:09
Looking at the IP Group price, it seems belief in Oxford Nanopoor must be ebbing away. Crikey if this is the Weif top 10 that was listed above, I wouldn't want to see 11 to 20!!! If WPCT is 45p in the pound Weif has got to be 60p realistically hasn't it??? And that's based on the WPCT figure standing up, which seems unlikely to me at least. Woodford is rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic.
ltcm1
14/8/2019
17:24
Bounce area here for the Dow imo.
tim 3
14/8/2019
17:18
DJIA looks a bit like a double top to me. If it goes below 24,500 or so it will go down fast. Of course, it may well bounce back after this correction. Sooner or later the game is up, but don’t under-estimate Trump who needs to delay a recession until December 2020.
topvest
14/8/2019
17:12
The USA Bear has woken up FTSE 100 to test 7000 this week as buywell predicted 6000 by end of this November IMO hope this helps woody
buywell3
14/8/2019
17:03
I’ve recently bought Tetragon as well. It’s performed well in the medium term and it’s investments are largely in profitable and growing asset management businesses. Will no doubt suffer a bit in a recession, but on a massive discount given its historical performance which is strong. The company is about a third owned by its managers, so it’s well aligned with shareholders. AVI Global hold a big stake which is what brought it to my attention. There’s nothing wrong with holding illiquid investment if the company has low leverage and the investments are profitable!
topvest
14/8/2019
16:20
Oh dear, this thread is now moving to being a fifth-grade tip-sheet (more likely share pushing outfit). But that's still five grades above the ratty little shareprophet gang. Lowest decile, ok, chucko?
johnwig
14/8/2019
14:58
dave - yes, it's interesting and could be attractive (discount, yield). When I last looked, I was discouraged by the fees: 1.5%. But that's on top of the fees within each investment, and there are hedge funds in there.
jonwig
14/8/2019
14:48
Here's a higher performing,long established trust with unquoted holdings, on a 48% discount to NAV for those tempted to buy in here -hTTps://www.edisongroup.com/publication/stronger-nav-returns-but-discount-remains-wide/24842
davebowler
14/8/2019
14:12
LOL - but more so. Woe, Woe, ...
jonwig
14/8/2019
14:03
"..His "good" stocks will go down and his bad stocks won't be able to raise money to stay afloat....Daily value of their holdings being crushed, and nothing they can do about it." The last 3 months!
spectoacc
14/8/2019
13:56
EJ - for me, yes, it's confirmation of what I've been expecting for too long! Markets will be awful, but at least Trump might give up his war against China for a while. As for Woody, his "good" stocks will go down and his bad stocks won't be able to raise money to stay afloat. His WEIF investors will see the daily value of their holdings being crushed, and nothing they can do about it. (The natural reaction would be to sell.)
jonwig
14/8/2019
13:43
With the yield curve inverting in USA, Germany and UK, it is suggestive that a recession is raised. Is this a concern?
erogenous jones
14/8/2019
13:21
He's a shyster. That's hardly libel
1oughton
14/8/2019
13:09
One plus of the Woodford debacle is it'll hopefully shine a light on the ridiculous margins of HL & SJP. The Sunday Times in particularly is going after them both, pointing out where the hidden charges are and reporting various complaints. Woody struck me as a man given far, far too much money to throw around. But agree @ltcm1, has proven far worse than that. I still wonder if he's delusional, or crooked, or simply has no choice but to pretend the show can carry on & will all come good if you just "give him more time". Northwest Bio one of my favourites, but the list does go on & on.
spectoacc
14/8/2019
12:55
As a family we held the fund he managed through SJP so have lost a fair amount.I would never use SJP myself due to their outrageous charges but was not my decision.
tim 3
14/8/2019
12:48
Still 45p though Life in this dog yet IMO
buywell3
14/8/2019
12:45
I know exactly what you mean CC2014. It's basically why I hang round here, it does seem an incredible story. If you look at the charge sheet in the round it goes beyond unlucky, through incompetence and ends at something darker and troubling. This is how I feel at least. Northwest Biotheraputics, that was some kind of scam wasn't it? Woodford ended up hiring an ex FBI Agent on that one. Then there was the strange case of the Purplebricks founders making an enormous amount of money, yet the thing never even broke even, with many believing the idea was a smoke and mirrors ruse that didn't stand up to financial analysis. It seems there are always things that can be explained away. But when you have dozens of these type of events it begins to look like a pattern.
ltcm1
14/8/2019
12:24
#9738 I think what I'm trying to say is that I used to think he was just a stock picker but now I'm beginning to wonder if there is something else going because his decisions seem less and less rationale to me. I begin to wonder if he does understand how bad his stock picks are but has other motivations for them. If we have an investment manager who doesn't see fit to disclose his holding in WPCT, or the sale of it in a timely manner (would he have done so at all given the Board did so), then where does his moral compass lie?
cc2014
14/8/2019
11:26
Its happened then https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/business-49297164 10 yr and 2yr bonds in the UK and US have both inverted today. Recession highly likely in 2020.
topvest
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