Wise Share Discussion Threads

[dabekt] 28/3/2022 13:22

People buy for the buzz with money they can afford to lose.I sometimes bet, and overall I am down but I enjoy the fun, not so much the losing lol. Same here. People buy / gamble and then they have something to talk about down the pub.No one bought Wise for solid dividends.But I tell you one think, IBs did a grand job for the then shareholders.

[stutes] 26/3/2022 13:16

FT reports Arm IPO and Softbank's valuation of Arm, the IBs got it wrong with Deliveroo, THG and Wise so why buy shares on ipo if the shares fall post ipo?

[stutes] 04/3/2022 16:18

Investors in W need to feel the share price won't drop 10% in a day. Volatility - be it Russia, Putin , Federal Reserve will continue for some time.

[stutes] 04/3/2022 15:34

I think W has some similarities to THG i.e., golden share, founder(s) having significant shareholding.

The erratic drops of up to 10% shows the risk of owning tech shares in a high yield period. I think the agenda is to hit W for say first 6 months 2022 and for second half to slowly relate tech firms. The key is Federal Reserve and rate hikes.

[dabekt] 04/3/2022 15:09

Is 150p your target? I will wait a little longer before buying. Thanks for the tip.

[colinio] 04/3/2022 14:11

Only Putin what your prepared to lose

[stutes] 04/3/2022 12:48

I think W could drop to say 150p or less based on how City is treating THG?

[conwyrebel] 04/3/2022 08:24

Wise board are culpable and should be ashamed of their behaviour.

[stutes] 04/3/2022 08:19

Well 38.4% drop from listing price should mean a long pause before other tech firms opt for ipo/listing. Any firm must expect a 40%+ discount.

[dabekt] 03/3/2022 15:26

Because the Investment Banks working for the then shareholders were not confident at selling at 900p.

[stutes] 03/3/2022 13:40

So why did W come on the market at 800p in the year when the market focused on rate hike and tapering?

I note Citigroup has today been the subject of two downgrade (CNBC report). It was Citi who criticised W.

[dabekt] 24/2/2022 11:25

Current share prices are directly related to future company value / profits / dividends.Imagine you had a hypothetical sum to invest. Yes, diversification is good, but which industry sectors are likely to go up / down in the near to medium term? Wise is a nice company to place a long term "bet" but it is unlikely to make enough money to justify current valuation over the near future. AIMHO

[stutes] 24/2/2022 10:17

The problem, especially today after Russian invasion of the Ukraine, is higher inflation leading to higher yield and lower tech prices
I'm starting to think with Russia and reported 7 hikes from the Federal Reserve pencilled in W could be price even lower

[dabekt] 24/2/2022 09:49

City as an institution would not do that. One or two individuals may for short term gain.I am sure that the long term price will reflect true Wise value.If you feel that the share price deserves to be higher then now is a good time to top up.

[stutes] 21/2/2022 14:02

I wonder if the Cityhas an agenda to drive W's share price down to same % drop as THG?

[stutes] 21/2/2022 10:21

The piecemeal % drop in W's price continues and we're still to see the Fed hike rates- now expected to be 0.25% for the next 7 meetings.

[stutes] 20/2/2022 12:00

The Times reports how City is trying hard to encourage Klarna and Arm to have a London listing. I think Softbank, an investor in Klarna, could sway the decision linked to the Arm listing?

[stutes] 18/2/2022 16:19

W's drop seems to coincide with the Chairman offloading £80m and then using some shares as collateral?

[stutes] 18/2/2022 15:59

Psypal looks as if it's adr could drop below $100, if so, what does it mean for W? Odd that a winner in gaining market share loses due to PayPal?

[stutes] 18/2/2022 15:06

The reported 6 or 7 Fed hikes in 22, could mean W share price falling even more - will we see £4 per share?

[dabekt] 18/2/2022 11:15

I thought that the long term holders sold part of their holding at £8.50 at listing? IB did a good job for them, but not so good for new holders whom they did not represent.Wise is a gamble. Perhaps in long term future it will be worth a lot, or very little. One should expect a large degree of variation. One could get a much better returns in oil and tobacco, at least in the near term.

[stutes] 17/2/2022 16:24

Since W's post-listing the share price has been a disaster for long-term shareholders. The current trading rang is 550p to 600p, makes you wonder whyit was valued at 800p?

[stutes] 15/2/2022 08:42

The former Chairman of W is looking to use his cash to back tech start-ups. I think W should take the lead from its former Chairman and look to scale up faster by forming jvs or mergers. If the City isn't pricing firms fairly why not exploit their mistake?

[stutes] 14/2/2022 16:06

As the world lurches from one issue to another money needs to move around the world faster and that means revenue for firms like Wise.

[stutes] 14/2/2022 07:56

Softbank listing should be securing the best return for shareholders and that is surely listing on US market, UK tech market is too small and a UK listing of Arm could act as a drag on future ipos and current listed firms.

The example of W should be a warning to all firms listing on London market