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[gozzie2] 15/7/2021 22:10

I don't know anyone that has, and thats all I care about.I wouldn't go near a pub with you and your sort in it if you paid me .And I won't be alone lol

[guitarhaggis] 15/7/2021 22:01

WOW your research is awesome.

What I've said is true regardless but you've also completely disregarded the official MHRA and VAERS data on reported adverse reactions yet you posted a question a couple of hours ago on the JD Wetherspoons thread of a financial site with no other replies so have therefor concluded that there are no known side effects to these experimental injections?

OK

Duly noted.

[gozzie2] 15/7/2021 21:54

Nearly 50,000 cases and hospitalisation trebling in a short space of time .Restrictions may well come back within a month.In fact il say they will

[gozzie2] 15/7/2021 21:45

Nobody on this board has had problems with vaccine .Only you How am I not surprised.

[guitarhaggis] 15/7/2021 21:39

So you haven't found any discrepancies then?

Thought not.

[gozzie2] 15/7/2021 21:34

Yeah it's a long way from Broadmoor I forgot .

[gozzie2] 15/7/2021 21:24

F#cking l#naticCome to Manchester and meet up

[gozzie2] 15/7/2021 21:18

Il find you dont worry.You took the p1ss out of my niece .I'm coming for you .You dont know who I am

[gozzie2] 15/7/2021 21:07

Do what you wantGo and catch a dose .Come near me and il deck youFACT

[gozzie2] 15/7/2021 21:05

They both have fake copies of them that you gullible believe

[guitarhaggis] 15/7/2021 20:59

So for the record.

MHRA isn't real.
VAERS isn't real.

According to Gozzie.

Duly noted.

[gozzie2] 15/7/2021 20:53

4000 people died after having the vaccine lolOne said planes are going to fall out of the sky lolL00neytunes

[gozzie2] 15/7/2021 20:52

Yes You are a fruitcake lolOn 5 May, Fox News host Tucker Carlson delivered a 10-minute monologue casting doubt on the safety of COVID-19 vaccines on his show, Tucker Carlson Tonight. He announced that almost 4000 people had died after getting COVID-19 vaccines, and added that those data "comes from VAERS,"-the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, a U.S. government program that collects reports of side effects possibly caused by vaccines.It was a misleading statement. The reporting of a death to VAERS indicates nothing about what caused it, and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's (CDC's) subsequent investigations have found no indication that deaths were caused by COVID-19 vaccines, save in a small subset with an extremely rare clotting disorder linked to one vaccine. But the TV segment pulled VAERS, a 31-year-old early warning system widely relied on by scientists, even deeper into the culture wars over vaccination. After the broadcast, a new phalanx of antivaccine activists began plumbing VAERS for data to scare the public about vaccination, says Angelo Carusone, president of Media Matters for America, a left-leaning nonprofit that is monitoring anti–COVID-19 vaccine activity on social media. "We have been tracking these attacks since February and this one resonated in a different way after Tucker hit it," Carusone says.

[guitarhaggis] 15/7/2021 20:49

Hang on seriously are you saying the MHRA website isn't real?

[guitarhaggis] 15/7/2021 20:49

What shares?

[gozzie2] 15/7/2021 20:48

Thats more hilarious lol

[guitarhaggis] 15/7/2021 20:48

Is VAERS not real too?

[gozzie2] 15/7/2021 20:48

All the time you are arguing about Covid your shares are dropping like a stone lol

[gozzie2] 15/7/2021 20:43

You mug You will believe anything They prey on the uneducated gullible Poster about Yellow Card scheme is not real4 JUNE 2021WHAT WAS CLAIMEDA poster from the MHRA makes various claims about the vaccines and importance of Yellow Card reports.OUR VERDICTThis poster is not actually from the MHRA. 1 of 3 claimsA poster which has been made to look like it comes from the Medical and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) has been shared on social media, and asks people to report any side effects from Covid-19 vaccines. Full Fact readers have asked us whether the poster is genuine, but it is not.  The poster talks about the importance of the Yellow Card scheme, which is the UK system for collecting reports of safety concerns such as potential side effects involving medical devices and medicines, including vaccines.  It claims that Yellow Card reports are essential to ensure the Covid-19 vaccines are safe and effective and will enable the vaccines to move out of phase 3 clinical trials and be granted "full approval". However, these claims are not entirely true.The poster itselfThe poster is a pretty good imitation of similar graphics published by the MHRA but there are still some clues which suggest that it might not be genuine.Doing a Google image search for "MHRA Coronavirus (Covid-19) vaccine injury report scheme" returned very similar graphics to the fake one. These images led to a legitimate MHRA webpage which linked to various resources for its "Every report counts campaign", including posters.However, none of the posters or images there matched the image we're checking. And while the style was quite similar (using the same graphics of people and colour scheme), there were some key differences. The real posters use a slightly different typeface and the MHRA's logo looks different in the fabricated poster. There is also a grammatical error in the fake poster.  The MHRA confirmed to Full Fact that the image on social media did not come from them.The claimsThe claims made in the fake poster are also not entirely accurate.It is true that the MHRA has launched a campaign promoting the Yellow Card scheme, and it is important people report suspected side effects from vaccines so they can be investigated.But the fake poster then says: "This [data] will allow [the vaccines] to move out of the phase 3 clinical trials and be granted full approval by the European Medical Agency as it currently only has temporary approval by the MHRA."This doesn't accurately represent how vaccine approval works nor the place of Yellow Card reports in the process. Vaccines, like other drugs, go through a number of stages before being released. Before human trials, vaccines must be shown to be safe and effective in animals.Then, phase 1 trials among up to 100 adults are focused on making sure the vaccine has no major safety concerns, and to work out the most effective dose.Phase 2 trials involve a few hundred participants and are more focused on checking the vaccine works consistently, and starting to look for any side effects.Phase 3 trials are then conducted among, typically, thousands of participants and are used to gather statistically significant and robust data on a vaccine's safety and efficacy. Following phase 3, the vaccine manufacturer can submit all their data to the regulatory body (which in the UK is the MHRA) which will then decide whether to licence the vaccine.The four Covid-19 vaccines approved for use in the UK (Oxford-AstraZeneca, Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna and Janssen) have all published data from their phase 3 trials demonstrating they are safe and effective.Participants in these trials are being monitored for the next few years, but it's wrong to suggest that Yellow Card reports are needed for the vaccines to "move out of the phase 3 clinical trials." It is also wrong to suggest, as some on social media have done, that because these trials are ongoing, people who take the vaccines are themselves in clinical trials. Some drugs also go through trials after being fully rolled out, known as phase 4 trials, which don't mean that people regularly prescribed them are in clinical trials themselves. Analysis of the Yellow Card reports so far shows that, other than well-known, temporary, mild and moderate side effects, such as fatigue, the risk of serious illness is very low.One possible link between the AstraZeneca vaccine and a rare blood clot has been identified. The latest data shows around one in 400,000 people who have been given a dose of the vaccine have died of one of these blood clots in the UK. The poster claims the vaccines have received "temporary approval" which is essentially correct. The Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccines have received temporary authorisation via regulation 174 of the Human Medicines Regulation 2012, while the Moderna and Janssen vaccines have received "conditional marketing authorisation", a type of licence. We've written about the different types of authorisation for vaccines before. Normally, vaccines go through a process to obtain marketing authorisation (also known as a licence). In certain scenarios, however, for example in response to "pathogenic agents", the MHRA may use different types of authorisation.Regulation 174 temporary authorisations are triggered by the government, rather than applied for by the drug company, and authorise the emergency supply of an unlicensed medicine in response to an unmet public health need.The process doesn't allow them to be turned into full permanent licenses, although that doesn't stop Pfizer or AstraZeneca applying for a license for their vaccines in the future.A conditional marketing authorisation, as held by Moderna and Janssen for their Covid vaccines, is applied for by the company in question. It is also a form of temporary authorisation, but can be converted into a full, permanent marketing authorisation, or licence.  The MHRA has previously told Full Fact that temporary authorisation and conditional marketing authorisations are "regulatory tools that enable medicines to be approved at the earliest time possible during an emergency situation, as soon as there are robust data to show that the benefits outweigh the risks" and added that no vaccine would be authorised in this way "unless the expected high standards are met".