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[spec7] 14/6/2014 16:55

Oh come off it TP. no one is trying to save anyone. We are simply trying to see in this what you and some others see in this. For that it needs discussion and explanation of ones thoughts. It makes no odds to me if you lose your shirt or Twix loses his but if you are going to make money we want to know why you think this. What other point is there in anyone posting?

Unfortunately individuals history s while welcome do not make a saleable product or return a profit on an investment. You are already firing back answers here very much like you did for VIY and attacking anyone who is trying to be a little rational at this early stage.. Its great you are thrilled to bits but until the rest of us understand why, you are not going to get a consensus.

[the prophet] 14/6/2014 16:47

monday looking like nice weather again!

[the prophet] 14/6/2014 16:45

tell you what, isn't it great all these guys with their investment advice are trying to save us from ourselves! The generosity of the human spirit knows no bounds!

Think I will stick with the likes of David Evans and Stephen Little, but thanks to you all for your concerns!

[soldi] 14/6/2014 16:26

Spec - re your post 11054: BRAVO! So now you have decided to wait to determine where the train is actually going, rather than piling in while it's still at the station! ;o)

[twix386] 14/6/2014 15:46

yes, we know some US companies are doing similar offerings.
It's been mentioned and not new news.
It's a big market and we are well placed for Europe/Asia imv.

[waterloo01] 14/6/2014 15:39

Please....do some of your own research (I hope the BOD have?).

[twix386] 14/6/2014 14:43

well worth a read for those that haven't yet



From general reading, I got the impression some think we are already CE Marked, awaiting to come to market.

we can see that the CE Marked IVD is not expected granted until Jan 2015.

[the prophet] 14/6/2014 12:25

essentially here you are buying into strong management with proven track-records on an undemanding valuation.
I'm very happy with that, its not for everyone, but its right up my street!

[waterloo01] 14/6/2014 11:50

spec7, I was going to write pretty much the same as your 11054 post yesterday, but decided it's not worth the bother. It's not surprising so many risk and loose so much on AIM. Now for the really brave, why not do it on margin! lol.

[spec7] 14/6/2014 11:40

Pugugly
Please dont complicate the issue with facts and figures :-)

[spec7] 14/6/2014 11:39

It can still be a completely new company but have alarming parallels to the old one. I cant believe what i am seeing here !! Lets all get behind F11 and hype this to the top. Off we go again.
I can fully understand people holding on to see what happens at this early stage but piling even more money into it without having an understanding of the company, how it works, demand for its product or any sort of previous just about destroys and credibility of some posters. What are the facts and figures, what is the demand for this test in the UK per day , how much is it ? How does it stack up against the already available tests for downs ? why has it not passed US screening ? What other countries will not accept it either ? the company seems to have set on a figure of 20m, what is this based on ? What are its admins and costs while it has no income ? At what point will it be in profit ?
I could go on but it seems to me this thread has once again made its mind up before the company has even got the go ahead from shareholders. amazing !

[pugugly] 14/6/2014 11:04

Placing and open offer at 11p - Market price of existing shares 14p/17p after 1 for 100 consolidation. Premium (omo) potentially too high given current position of the test in the marketplace and the relativly slow adoption of new products by the medical profession,

[twix386] 14/6/2014 10:35

GP2,

I have a need to keep throwing money at it! lol

Only need it to work once and this surely has a reasonable chance, otherwise having come to terms with the paper loss I stay in the same situation I'm already in.

If we ever reach a penny I aim to be at b/e rather than still bust.
The dream is still alive, inspite of it all ;-)

Whilst good, your travel ideas seem more suited for after the final verdict. A relief vacation or a one way trip. lol

[the prophet] 14/6/2014 10:32

article from last September, but gives some background on Premaitha

[greenpastures2] 14/6/2014 10:24

I think you need to stand back twix. How about a long hike in Thailand's back country for a few weeks? Or work on a project where you are too occupied to be thinking of investments.

[twix386] 14/6/2014 09:52

I have my own thought process.

The downside risk isn't the biggest point. It is one.
The upside and BOD credentials etc another.

Also you are wrong in that it is not only those wit small investments that ride it out. Those with big may look at what's on offer and choose to recover by averaging down in a belief that there will be a new chance.

I don't know why others seek to explain my thought processes. I barely understand them myself, but rather I have a fatalist 5hit or bust and if I lose another few thousand it ain't going to change my overall situation much, so I would rather seek to average down as others are also doing and get out later. I do see the potential as I stated.

I plan to go for the Open Offer and excess. The terms were not as good as hoped, so in the end I chose to add a bit yesterday at around 0.1365 and 0.1390 from memory.

Yes, I am doing that and so far it has proved wrong. Still, each new round has a new hook and we have jettisoned the old BOD.
If it ever proves right, I shall be out and thankful.

We all operate differently so let's leave all the 2nd guessing behind shall we, pleeeeease ;-)

[spec7] 14/6/2014 09:47

It makes no sense twix.
You say..

"We surely would not exclude the US market out of choice, so I get a feeling that the downside risks are glossed over and not fully explained, whilst we can all see and recognise there is a good case for the upside and without this chance we are otherwise toast!"

Then you say...
You tucked a few away again yesterday.

Please explain why when you look at the investment markets and the 1000's of companies available to invest in you decide you don't have enough invested in this ?
Or to put it another way, of all the opportunities in the world this is the best one and needs more of your money.

I think i now know why you are in the mess you are in :-) you are doing exactly the same here as you did with VIY. and now agreeing with F11.......lol
A fool and his money...

[twix386] 14/6/2014 09:32

I agree with all that and did the same F11.

We may all be able to agree a lot more going forward. One would hope.

[fairenough11] 14/6/2014 09:20

TP,

I also tucked a few away yesterday.

Good luck all.

Management looks impressive to me at least.

[twix386] 14/6/2014 09:15

depressive Twix here ;-)

My doubts are fewer with AR than ever before, but they aren't zero.

The biotech field and open offer terms aside.
There is a similarity to Vialogy.
Namely......
not going to USA is due to a tougher regulatory regime! Mmmm!!
Some US companies do similar to Premaitha's offering.
The need to break into other markets with resistance from existing players.

We surely would not exclude the US market out of choice, so I get a feeling that the downside risks are glossed over and not fully explained, whilst we can all see and recognise there is a good case for the upside and without this chance we are otherwise toast!

[greenpastures2] 14/6/2014 08:02

Prophet, my comment about averaging down was a general one and nothing to do with Premaitha.

However, I cannot see how you can be positive about Premaitha so soon after the news release. I see that they reckon 20% of women are at risk of having a Down's Sydrome baby and the world market opportunity is based on tests costing between $800-$1800.

How many of those 20% of women at risk actually have Down Syndrome babies?
I will try to look into this further before I get excited about increasing my stake.