Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[superg1] 19/12/2017 10:42

DgDuncan

I check out posting history to work out genuine posters or investors or not.

You arrived buying VRS 2 months ago amazed at the opportunities and positing as such then recently you mention all your worries and then out a completely spurious post on III which you got upset about when someone challenged it.

I never bothered to look but in your ADVFN posts it includes this (as of today)

"In my blind and simple world I feel that they must have tried - and failed - to put Nanene to good use in the plastics products."

That is an absolutely ridiculous assumption, yes you are blind and simple when it comes to understanding Nanene.

How have you come to that conclusion when the CEO said it works in everything they have tried it in and we will be updated re that.

[grabster] 19/12/2017 10:42

Richie - no, the name Unilever has not been mentioned in an RNS announcement. Nor was the name Rolls Royce Aero Engines mentioned when the £200,000 order came in from them a few weeks earlier.

Detective work is involved ;-)

If your own assessment of what WAS said, combined with meetings mentioned earlier, doesn't lead you to Unilever - that's OK, because in that case it has to be one of the other giant companies that fits the description that was given - and any one of those few would be equally nice ;-)

The name Dow Chemical (now DowDupont) wasn't specifically given in the most recently announced deal either. So feel free to name whoever else you think it might have been; again, from the description that was announced, it would have to be someone of similarly impressive standing ;-)

[volsung] 19/12/2017 10:34

I am lying in Tenerife dressed in a kaftan and sunning my balls. Quiet day for VRS

[superg1] 19/12/2017 10:29

Spotted this news today re BP moving to renewable energy.


Relevant because as far as I can see graphene is starting to look viable for the solar panel sector.

But if you read it gives you some idea of the money washing around in these big companies.

EG

"It should probably be stated up front that, while the $200 million figure sounds like a lot of money, it represents just a tiny fraction of the money that BP has spent so far this year (which now totals around $17 billion, reportedly)."

[club sandwich] 19/12/2017 10:29

the 'global consumer group'...

[richie32] 19/12/2017 10:26

Where did Unilever come from? Has this ever been stated in an RNS?

[the stigologist] 19/12/2017 10:24

gullible idiot

[club sandwich] 19/12/2017 10:15

It's more than 'belief' - the science and the potential is incontrovertible, assuming you have more than three brain cells to rub together. I would argue that you don't even need belief that VRS will be a major beneficiary of the Graphene Age (although of course not the only one) - the Unilever and DDP deals speak for themselves, let alone what is to come (we hope!)...

[phoenixs] 19/12/2017 10:15

superg1, post 15828...just be happy that that lot have not invested here. (as far as I know)

[phoenixs] 19/12/2017 10:11

I am more than happy with my holding which is substantial. If others decide not to believe what I and many others on this board and as well as those who do not post here have bought into then good luck to them. IMO they will be proved wrong in the coming weeks and months. I will not crow about it but will enjoy the fruits of my investment decision.

[club sandwich] 19/12/2017 10:09

just filter the muppet...

[the patient investor] 19/12/2017 10:06

Duncan I have lost my will to live!

Seriously! :-)

Happy xmas

[phoenixs] 19/12/2017 10:06

duncan, a few posters have taken the time to respond to you. You have made your decision to sell. You obviously do not believe what has been put before you in the posts.

[superg1] 19/12/2017 10:05

Isn't it about time the bears did a full assault on that bubble the IP group.

£1.5 bill M/C

turnover £7.6 mill and losses £13.5 mill.

A private bubble created by their large backing of no hopers which inflates the M/C of tech companies.

A house of cards as they say in the US.

[superg1] 19/12/2017 09:56

Cryoma won't try graphene in products that is all done through 2D tech. ABS for 3D printing is out there BTW so that's one product.

And who says something isn't out there or due to appear as what was Grant Sinclair doing at the AGM and his launch of the new C5 and other products.

I'm sure he wasn't at the AGM through random boredom just passing through Gloucester so he thought he'd pop in.



AAC do those type of panels.

[dgduncan] 19/12/2017 09:48

BTW - I am not saying anyone has told any lies.

[dgduncan] 19/12/2017 09:47

I am totally convinced that graphene is an amazing find. Ink could well be a big flier but the company is all about Nanene at the moment.
Had NR not bought Cyroma I would be of the belief that they were on the right track. However, at the time Cyroima was bought back in October last year he declared that it was :

Using Versarien's existing graphene manufacturing capabilities, in combination with AAC Cyroma's knowledge, plant and equipment, the acquisition will provide the Group with an ability to produce graphene enhanced products for an established customer base, both domestic and international, including leading automotive OEMs. Versarien believes this will be the first dedicated graphene enhanced plastics manufacturing factory in the world.

In my blind and simple world I feel that they must have tried - and failed - to put Nanene to good use in the plastics products. Even if one does not want a graphene enhanced shower tray or graphene enhanced toolbox, there should/would have been some products made yet there is no mention at all. Cyroma has just carried on being a good plastic mouldings company. NR has failed to deliver on this first dedicated graphene enhanced plastics manufacturing factory. Why ????. This to me is a fact. Please would someone who is smarter than me show where Cyroma are living up to NR's expectations.

[the patient investor] 19/12/2017 09:31

Sg1

The last sentence in your 15823 is key.

Duncan's comment
"With this combination I find it inconceivable that Cyroma have not tried Nanene enhancement of some of their products or even published any studies."

totally ignores the fact these people are working hard on something they will publish only when they reach a stage where they will be so far ahead of everybody else and all potential partners in various industries will look at them as the best possible solution to their needs.
And then, only then, as sg1 said, we will hear from them.

So simple duncan..

[superg1] 19/12/2017 09:22

Dg

Well you can take it form me you are considerably wide of the mark, yours is an opinion mine is extensive thorough research much of which I can't and won't post or share privately.

I get the alternative view, my approach to Aims is to treat them as a fraud until proved otherwise. If they make a claim then I try to fund evidence.

Very often there is nothing to back up claims of many companies on various topics and often I find details to show in fact they are lying.

Deceiving investors who may purchase shares if fraud. If they do it once what does that say about anything they have ever claimed, it could all be lies.

I took the same approach with VRS and found some good things so arranged a visit or two along the way. So far it seems to me VRS are quite reserved about what they have.

Look at ink, look at Ferrari and his team salivating at the opportunities before them with the ink. VRS hardly mention it. When someone signs up big time on the ink no doubt we will get to hear about it.

[the patient investor] 19/12/2017 09:20

Duncan
Cannot believe how blind you are

Do you think they throw nobel prizes at scientists just like that?

Do you think the application of a relatively new science to industry happens just like that?

Do you think top universities would enter into agreements with the first bloke who knocks on the door?

Just wake up and be patient

And BUY ffs!

[bobsworth] 19/12/2017 09:08

Excellent BB Guys! Keep those information posts coming as much appreciated by long term VRS share holders like me. Looking forward now to a stream of news in the coming days and weeks. GLA

[the patient investor] 19/12/2017 09:06

Sg1
Really great research, tx

[luckyorange] 19/12/2017 09:03

The most recent gamechanger here is the ability to produce graphene commercially. Once big companies have done their sums I will be very surprised if VRS in it's current form is still around 18 months from now never mind years.

They will want the ink and graphene and discard the rest. Ink is highly scalable and nanene just requires investment in the machinery, then it's down to numbers.

At the moment 10 kilo's /week can be produced with a two shift automated system, wouldn't take a big company long to scale up to 1 tonne / week for a modest outlay and then whoever wants it has to go to them.

Anyone from Panasonic to Dow and everything in between will surely see the coming 4th industrial revolution?

[chillpill] 19/12/2017 08:49

Pleasing to see the traders have largely exited and we can noe look forward to some solid progress in 2018.