Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[diversification] 21/10/2018 22:43

Thank you for your kind words Hattie, this is generally a very good board with lots of informative posters. I try and contribute when/if I can.

[simonlee40] 21/10/2018 22:43

Did you use that calculator for your dad's investments ?

[hattie1] 21/10/2018 22:37

Diversification your posts have made this board worth reading today .. Thankyou

[loglorry1] 21/10/2018 22:36

Sorry good point post edited. Slip of the old calculator there. Mind you I can see Graphene becoming a commodity product pretty quickly.

[diversification] 21/10/2018 22:31

Although filtered, we defiantly seem to have a desperate poster. A new post every 12 minutes.

I had to unfilter to see what was going on.

$500 dollars a ton.

You couldn’t make it up. Oh he just did......

How much does he/she think it would cost to transport 1 ton alone. Then we have cost of labour, materials and then the margin for the producer. A material which will be prodominantly dominated by the first mover, all validated by ISO of which a few members work for us.

It’s getting boring, very boring...

Good night, I look forward to moving one week closer to the big news, regardless of the share price movement.

I am not a seller at £1.90, £3 or £5 a share so why would I sell during the market turbulence and discounted prices.

[simonlee40] 21/10/2018 22:30

As I thought gutless like your pals seriously up your game fella your deramping is SH1T

[simonlee40] 21/10/2018 22:24

Seriously please explain your motives to me I find it quite fascinating.

[loglorry1] 21/10/2018 22:21

@serratia good post.

You say

They [VRS] have a product that is optimal for composites the big short term market

Do you have any evidence of this?

[ellissj] 21/10/2018 22:18

Wonder if vrs/gnano will apply here with our 'disruptive' 2D next gen battery supercap tech :) glalth. best ellis.

"Innovate UK will be opening the third round of Faraday Battery Challenge: Innovation competitions on 17th September 2018, with a deadline for applications on 12th December 2018. Click here ;for more information."

[simonlee40] 21/10/2018 22:17

Loglorry please explain your motives for being on this BB are you trying to prevent us from losing our hard earned money, I'm genuinely interested, also what price did u open your short at ?

[loglorry1] 21/10/2018 22:09

Oh SuperG you are being naughty posting very old YouTube vids. The new production line at First Graphene is very different. Here it is

[loglorry1] 21/10/2018 21:59

@SuperG Do you think that the UoM and GEIC were also duped by this because First Graphene are Teir 1 members of GEIC. If they were then maybe VRS duped them too?

[rogerbridge] 21/10/2018 21:58

I concur 20pc. Looking forward to a positive week for VRS.

[superg1] 21/10/2018 21:55

Here you go China here is how to produce FGR 'graphene'

All explained in detail.



Note they go on about the finer material being collected in a 400 mesh.

400 mesh is 400 holes in one square inch well if it's collecting the finer material then it's big, then note the lump of 'charcoal' they call graphene.

[loglorry1] 21/10/2018 21:48

SuperG I'd agree with you on Talga they made a lot of promises and didn't deliver.

Thing is so do VRS!

[superg1] 21/10/2018 21:46

I’d love Fgr to join the AIM then we can tear their BS to pieces on here, buy 1 share and attend the AGM to pit them on the spot.

Some seem to forget it was all Talga talga talga by numpties (another Aus BS set up).

Then ooooh no not Talga First graphene, yeah that’s the one.

EG

I believe one of the FGR sell factors is the superior graphite. Some think that’s cricial (certainly FGR sell it that way).

The other that gets mentioned is XG.

XG aren’t really bothered what graphite they use as in notes.

[20pc] 21/10/2018 21:37

Interesting couple of weeks, with the desperados attempting to take advantage of the the global stock market jitters. VRS is not about the valuation of a mature company, its about the valuation of a visionary BOD fully supported by loyal hard working staff operating at the top of the new material revolution. The vision is backed by scores of collaborators, connections and even the UK government. Its possible that ONE piece of news in the not too distant future could provide forecasters to be able to see a multi £m profit in the following year. I say ONE piece as I see VRS as 100+ piece puzzle. Stick that in your PE forecasts spreadsheets, what PE ratio would you apply to that, I don't know, but it would certainly make us smile. Certainly wouldn't want to be on the wrong side of the coin for that. So when will that news come, always when we least expect it.

[diversification] 21/10/2018 20:13

My opinion.

Where others have failed, VRS will prosper.

With the Chinese all over Nanane due to the quality of the product produced on what could be a scaleable/commercial level. Best results to date have been in the laboratory, acknowledging graphene to be the next wonder material, a new revolution using the best quality graphene.

The issue, to produce the material on a scalable level whilst ensuring quality, and in terms of success which has frustrated and delayed its adoption. It will take a significant improvement in a product to convince the specific industry to go through the hassle of changing its production processes to deliver what would be a significant competitive edge.

My point being, if anyone is close to achieving this then it has to be VRS, the laboratory quality grade graphene is delivered in the form of Nanene. It’s adoption is down to the collaboration partners, but if the results are compelling and the partners drag their feet then VRS can simply approach its competitors and provide it with an increase in market share. (No exclusivity). PRICELESS.

So we will have to wait for the process to play out and I believe whilst the share could be traded during this period of volatility due to the lack of news on the above. Imo it is a dangerous game to play, that is why irrespective of my paper valuation I will be sitting firmly on my hands for when the time comes and the company delivers. Because it will, not necessarily first time round but it has many rolls of the dice that only continues to grow.

This isn’t about an increase in market share but first mover advantage imo.

Excited to say the least.

[festario] 21/10/2018 20:12

With the chart as it is, and if there is no news on orders or Chinese ventures.... I'm not too sure if we should KEEP THAT STOCK MARKET SHUT!

[luckyorange] 21/10/2018 19:23

The short sellers are a crowd now so that is the dangerous time for them, we have seen with the longs that some sell on a high or near high whilst sentiment is up and now you need to turn that on its head.

Tactic seems to be to keep up the tirade but in that situation some will be using that to get out of their position whilst they still can. They all cannot get out whilst the share price is on a low, if they do then it has the opposite effect.

So, some will be getting out as slowly they can without being obvious ( I have noticed what I think are daily stealth buys of certain numbers but time will tell).

As the long termers know the worst thing you can do at times like this is sell, if volume drops off a cliff then shorters have had their day and in a difficult position.

Add to that there are traders who like to play shorters and just when they feel comfortable or at their most verbal which is the point when the 'trader' starts the buying phase.

Madness to sell at the moment but each to their own.

[pandeck] 21/10/2018 18:41

Log,

Thanks for the link you posted earlier, it's here by the way to save you looking for it:

hxxps://firstgraphene.com.au/investor-relations/asx-announcements?task=document.viewdoc&id=309

As you can see it is dated 5th December 2017. I must say that much seems to read like bluff and bluster, and the photos tell an interesting story too. Please take a look. To be fair that kind of photo could be taken virtually in the corner of any warehouse, and what is it of anyway?

As Serratia pointed out their sales totalled £3.8K through to September 2018, something seriously wrong here. All that product only worth £3.8K? They must be giving away. Then the lifestyle drawings of CEO/FD/Chairman total pay £1.07m. Looks very iffy to me.

May I suggest that you be careful about doing anything with FGR.

[runthejoules] 21/10/2018 18:34

I ask so I can come back on this board the day after and not be bored out my mind