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VRS Versarien Plc

0.1225
-0.004 (-3.16%)
28 Mar 2024 - Closed
Delayed by 15 minutes
Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Versarien Plc LSE:VRS London Ordinary Share GB00B8YZTJ80 ORD 0.01P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  -0.004 -3.16% 0.1225 0.117 0.1275 0.1295 0.1105 0.12 30,077,124 16:35:17
Industry Sector Turnover Profit EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap
Chemicals & Chem Preps, Nec 11.64M -8.07M -0.0244 -0.05 430.01k
Versarien Plc is listed in the Chemicals & Chem Preps sector of the London Stock Exchange with ticker VRS. The last closing price for Versarien was 0.13p. Over the last year, Versarien shares have traded in a share price range of 0.08p to 6.66p.

Versarien currently has 330,779,690 shares in issue. The market capitalisation of Versarien is £430,014 . Versarien has a price to earnings ratio (PE ratio) of -0.05.

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27/8/2017
10:11
For an example I did a quick search which reminds me to warn of something else.

The advert

"Multi-Layer Graphene (5-10 layers) 90% MIN Guaranteed"

The actual on the same page

"Multi-Layer Graphene, with average thickness 4 – 6 nm."

Don't confuse layers with nm.

In nm terms 1nm = 3 layers of graphene.

So 4-6nm is 12 to 18 layers.

Yet the 'guarantee' is 5-10 layers.

If you didn't know you'd think its better than 5-10 as it's shown as 4-6.

The multi-layer stuff VRS have is called waste material.

superg1
27/8/2017
09:41
On the topic off graphene I did see we had a new arrival asking about graphene.

Well to that person and those that may nit know it. If you are talking the full benefits to be gained form graphene then ignore multi-layer.

As mentioned by the CEO in the interview there is a a lot of false stuff about.

That derives from the definition of nano which is anything under 100 nm. 100nm in graphene terms is 300 layers.

300 layers in graphene terms is absolute junk and using that would severely diminish the strength of and composite it went into.

However there are a host of companies claiming to produce graphene as the definition and standards have yet to be established but they are working on it.

EG the UOM and NGI with various others have graphene as anything with under 10 layers average. I and a couple of other guys who are experts have looked through various science papers. One had already determined the reason for the weakness and it was confirmed by some papers.

The conclusions were that when you get to many layer it's the bond between those layers that creates the weakness when added to a composite but because of their movement it does improve elasticity.

We are not talking 100's of layers to see the diminishing effect, once you get over 10 the gains start to fall of a cliff and it quickly turns to material weaknesses created.

One I found used about 15-30 layer graphene and the more they added the weaker the composite became, 80% weaker.

There are companies out there claiming bulk graphene at 50 layers and 100 layers plus. It is junk and that is why few layer is so sought after and highly priced.

Now think of few layer. It has been cycled many times to get to that in a lot of cases and some layers will simply not give up their bond to each other. In others words you have hit a strong bond section of the graphite between the layers.

If you just do multi layer graphene there are billions of platelets at multilayer with billions of weak points.

In few layer you have more or less exhausted all the weak points and at the same time created multiples of the GNPs by weight that exist in many layer cases. So you have stronger GNPs spread at higher rates closer together.

It's not just about layers. For strength the lateral sizes have to have a good range too. Then there is purity and defect ratios.

Then having got to that, does it work, it may not.

NOTE

In all caes I have found data on synthetic GNPs the laterals sizes are very small compared to graphite based GNPs.

EG one has an average of 300 nm for lateral sizes and the graphite guys can be 30 times the size of that and higher with few layer.

Again on synthetic some producers talk of crumpling and folding of GNPs in production. A science paper using them suggest the crumpling is the probable reduction in performance for what they tried and they noted the surface area was the main issue.

Some graphene companies suggest low lateral size are of no use for strength in composites. I put that down to the very small lateral surface level being able to bond with the composite.

In that case if you think of a postage stamp stuck to an envelope then think of it 1mm by 1mm and smaller.

How well do you think it would stick to the envelope with the same glue. In the majority of cases the stamp is going to come off with minimal contact.

So for the news guys I hope that explains graphene a bit.

DYOR

superg1
27/8/2017
07:35
As I've stated now is a great entry RSI is off the bottom of the scale shares due a bounce
warwick69
26/8/2017
22:36
Magnanimous gesture, don't ya just love comments like that lol
luckyorange
26/8/2017
22:19
I did OK with VRS when they had the recent blip. But now it has fallen again, maybe because not much news from VRS. The technology seems good, but I wonder if any other global companies are onto the same thing. If the shares fall further I reckon I will buy in again.
stevedevuk
26/8/2017
21:47
'But what about the car tyre industry? Here too, things are moving fast. In September 2016, Chinese manufacturers Sentury and Huagao launched their first graphene-containing tyre. Their figures suggest that, relative to conventional materials, the new tyre can achieve:

6% reduction in stopping distance
1.5 – 1.8 times mileage
1.5 times better rolling resistance
10% decrease in weight.
These are impressive figures, and the companies are looking to capitalise on their lead. According to Tyre Press, the companies aim to produce 5 million units in the next five years. Nor are Sentury and Huagao the only early adopters of graphene. Graphene suppliers Sixth Element are now adding their product to tyre formulations used by Shangdong Hengyu, apparently with spectacular results. Wear rate for the compounds was reduced by 25%, while tear strength increased by over 100%. The new material is present in their Horizon HD tyre.

With graphene offering so much, it’s a safe bet that researchers at all the giant tyre manufacturers are working furiously to exploit its potential. And that can only be good news for consumers. Stronger, grippier, more durable tyres are on the horizon. We’re looking forward to it.'

luckyorange
26/8/2017
17:06
still live that one Astral and that's all I'll say on the matter.

On the share price some city boys pumped and dumped bit since the highs all that has happened is the NDAs have multiplied with some far further down the line than then.

At some point some of those will amount to news.

Short term punters who call themselves investors are the reason for ups and downs . PIs generally buy on highs amd sell on lows. No doubt some have piled in on highs elsewhere.

The loss rate is something like 90-95% for PIs. I prefer the Buffet approach.

superg1
26/8/2017
17:04
Now now warwick, not a PHE thread :)

The Vox interview specifically about the graphene developments commercially was welcome, NR always relates to the size of his shareholding and to be fair if I had that many it would certainly focus the mind!

luckyorange
26/8/2017
16:51
PHE will be needed to make hydrogen from rubbish for the emerging hydrogen economy, trains, boats , cars could all be running on fuel cells on time the demand for hydrogen will be enormous PHE can make it from tyres, municipal waste, toxic waste of all descriptions auto shredded waste etc.
warwick69
26/8/2017
16:30
Yes, the link was brilliant. I'd heard other predictions about changes in car ownership. Seems a reasonable projection. Other things like the impact on the steel industry, less cars, lighter cars, less steel in the cars that are actually produced. So the question is where to ones money to benefit from the expected changes.
1madmarky
26/8/2017
13:51
SG - Many thanks for that link to a terrific lecture by Tony Seba.

I noted - for reasons I won't go into - McKinsey's 15 year forecast made in 1985 for AT&T as regards likely number of mobiles in 2000 -

Estimate : 900,000 Actual : 109 million

In fairness to McKinsey they clearly looked at the shape of past S-curves as regards take-up of new technologies in order to extrapolate their estimate. You can actually see past S-curves in one of Seba's slides so it was not an unreasonable thing for McKinsey to apply a similar S-curve at the time. Also, and as this link to one of the undoubted heroes of today's technological age shows - yet most people have never heard of him - the Li-ion battery which he developed in 1981 was not really commercialised until ten years later -

As for the upcoming changes in clean energy and clean transportation, the mind really boggles. And this is just FORESEEN disruption. What about any new inventions being added to the mix over the next 5-15 years - just as the Li-ion battery impacted the mobile market and threw out McKinsey's forecast so badly? And on the subject of the impact of Li-ion battery technology,why on earth hasn't a Nobel prize been awarded yet to Professor Goodenough?

vasilis
26/8/2017
11:08
sg1Fact remains that NR/VRS were to bullish earlier in the year and were unable to deliver on the 'expected orders in coming months'.Not a hanging offence and who can blame a CE for being optimistic? Not the first and won't be the last, but the fall out from that is a near halving in the share price I'm sure NR is a lovely chap, although I'm always a little wary of CE's with personalised number plates. That's just me.I'm still invested here but that doesn't stop me saying it how it is, accept we all see things differently.I've made the mistake in the past of getting too close to companies, now I prefer to watch from a step back. There is always time to add if the situation warrants it as invariably the share price takes a while to take in good news, as well as bad.
astralvision
26/8/2017
10:56
This Imo is fascinating

A brilliant video to show how those that said "it will never happen" ended up looking foolish.

The revolution on the way. Don't be put off by the length of it, it's very interesting and covers various topics.

The one bit that made me smile was Kodak. Record sales in 2000 bankrupt in 2012.

Why did they go bankrupt..... digital cameras.

Who invented digital cameras???

Kodak

In the video it shows the EV revolution on the way. solar and so on. Well worth watching and you will see the names that said Iphone will never catch on, solar will never work, EVs.

In fact the guy himself made short term predictions where is was laughed at and the actual has exceeded his forecast.

Graphene is coming guys on 1000's of fronts, some have key leads, some have nothing.

superg1
26/8/2017
08:47
Stigologist I have learned from some of my mistakes haven't you. Why do you hold such a grudge and WGP I may yet have the last laugh! That one is not over yet
warwick69
26/8/2017
08:43
Stigologist one of my stalkers sorry guys
warwick69
26/8/2017
08:37
Stigologist FO.
john henry
26/8/2017
06:35
Well following my impulse purchase of 323k shares thought better do a bit of a quick catch up !

I can't see any fundamental reason why the share price has fallen back from 24/26 region on the good news around graphene uses such as the sea salt desalination membrane, use in composites, carbon fibre, inks, and many many other uses!

It just looks to me like a typical disgruntled punters wanting a quick buck getting peed off so selling as news has dried up and they feeel they are not going to make their millions in ten minutes as they hoped ?

If I look at the RSI and Momentum on the charts they are off the lower end of the scale? In fact I have never seen such a low RSI indicating in way over sold territory?

So I think I am very pleased with my entry point on Friday and I may switch a few more funds into this for the bounce back to 30p which seems highly likely on any modicum of good news, which listening to Neil must be very close?

I will speak to Neil and possibly arrange a little site visit in Cheltenham to see what's occurring but I may buy quite a few more at these crazy levels before I do so I can't be accused of anything by anyone ?

Great entry point IMHO

warwick69
25/8/2017
17:49
We all know the Nanene and ink sales will take time, VRS are not in control of project timescales, only their delivery of Nanene or inks.

The other group companies are supplying the funds to allow for development and future profits.

The carbide side has been relocated and performing well by the sound of it.
The lower exchange rate can only help the manufacturing companies in the group.

Nanene and inks will be the main contributors in the future, But the other companies in the group have their part to play until then.

The only concern I would have is on the copper foam side which I thought would have taken off by now, maybe we will hear more at the AGM.

I hope VRS will remain independant but I can see a bid or too, certainly by 2020 if not before.

rogerbridge
25/8/2017
17:26
Aren't sales going to be up anyway just because there is a full year of AAC?What investors really want to know is how much graphene have they sold, not how many plastic supermarket baskets have they made.It seems investors may not get to know this basic info as graphene now gets lumped in with AAC.Anyone for 'transparency'?
astralvision
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