Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[festario] 20/8/2017 13:50

Amen to that SuperG, get your invoice for consultation services in... nail PRG, then we can start on Sable Mining.They still pretend to exist!

[phoenixs] 20/8/2017 10:09

Superg1, ENRT ENVIRONMENTAL TECHNOLOGIES took shareholders for a complete ride.

The then Finance director said at an AGM "when we run out of money we will get some more from the shareholders"

The nomad was aware of a lot of what was going on.

There was even a funding offer made by some investors about 8 months before the company went down which could well have resulted in the company becoming a commercial enterprise. Lo and behold directors/company secretary linked to major bond/convertible holders etc turned down the offer.

[festario] 19/8/2017 21:43

BazzerP, nice to see you recovered from that. I've felt sick quite often on some days with major losses on OXS, GKP, IOF and FOGL. But never more than 20%?of my portfolio.Meldex was an out and out fraud wasn't it?

[bazzerp] 19/8/2017 19:52

Reassuring to hear of other failures.
My big loss was Meldex, that nearly cost me my home. ;-(

[superg1] 19/8/2017 17:55

Hmmmmm I see its fun over on ADL. Another fraud uncovered it seems and once again Cantor are the nomad.

[luckyorange] 19/8/2017 17:15

Can they keep going without a Chairman? It does save 35-40k a year and a supply of tea and biscuits !

I hope if they do get another they will be actively involved in the company rather than turning up half a dozen times a year , penning a little note for the nomads and doing the least possible for the company otherwise!

[luckyorange] 19/8/2017 17:06

Strange that A_Game has never been back here to post superg? NR has his address because he sent him one of those robots ;-)

[vasilis] 19/8/2017 13:11

Richardc77

When I said 'the market opportunities look to be much bigger than the semiconductor industry' I would say most definitely in terms of 'market opportunities'.

Whilst the semiconductor industry is wide-ranging, graphene has the potential to be involved in a greater number of industrial and commercial sectors - including new building materials, new and lighter metallic compounds, new water filtration systems, new battery technologies, new tyre compounds etc. etc.

And all of these on top of developments such as the conductive inks and potential applications in the semiconductor industry itself.

[festario] 19/8/2017 12:53

SBLM or CGH as it now calls itself, has a contact us page, which takes me to Ben Brewerton, in London.I have emailed him and phoned him to see what, if anything is going on. Ben has replied twice, out of about 10 enquiries, simply stating that 'he has no update for me, and he is not in touch with the company '. It's outrageous, and I have warned him that I'll refer him personally, and the whole saga to the FCA. He doesn't reply.It's a waste of time in any case.The upshot is, there was a supposedly solid company, working on major projects... now there is zilch. With no indication of any problems. The shares sit there in my account, with a massive red number against them, indicating my loss, yet I can't even use it as CG Tax allowance. This is why I'm utterly sick of AIM.

[festario] 19/8/2017 12:46

SBLM, (Sable Mining), had fabulous projects in Africa, supposedly on the go.Iron ore mines, railways etc,... then last year the share price dropped so low that the company decided to delist. Ostensibly because the costs of maintaining a listing was bad for shareholders!!What is actually bad for shareholders is having shares of no value. I still hold 8m of them.They then decided to convert to a company called Consolidated Growth Holdings. CGH. But, without the ability to trade shares.They promised to update the company website regularly with what they were doing with MY money, but there has never been a single update in a year now.

[superg1] 19/8/2017 08:05

A quick example list request.

Can anyone name some companies over the years where the nomads have failed to spot false news and cons and have warned the market about it.

Then

Can anyone list any companies where companies have gone bust with not a hint from the nomad and broker about the impending doom.

I suspect the first question will come up as zero and the 2nd one with numerous examples.

[rogerbridge] 19/8/2017 07:53

Some interesting links that show the graphine step change is coming. "Resistance is futile"
VRS With Nanene and inks are in the right space and have the technology and expertise to monitise this.
I am frustrated too, but developments on this scale take time to come to fruition.

I agree some developments could be conceived as scary, will the day come when everyone will carry their own rfid code and bank account details on/ under their skin?
Watch out for big brother.

On a more serious note, with the number of prestigious contacts, ongoin testing and NDA,s it will not bee too long before some come to fruition.

I am also looking forward to hearing about the carbide side.

My holiday clashes with the AGM, trying to rework to attend.

[luckyorange] 19/8/2017 07:34

They do supply uni's and academia globally luckykids but I only know that because of the information on the spin out of 2D tech (VRS have never mentioned it as far as I am aware)

'Headed up by chief technical officer Dr Branson Belle, 2-DTech sells graphene to researchers at corporations and academia, including a growing demand from within the University.

Dr Belle said: “Interest in graphene has really taken off and there is a need to supply researchers.

“We have customers in Japan, Korea, the US, Europe and the UK.

“There is a lot of competition, but we have the know how and the skills to manufacture graphene on a large scale.

“The industrial revolution began in Manchester and now we have the graphene revolution here too.”

2-DTech, which is based at the University’s Innovation Centre, prides itself on the quality of the materials it produces.

It says that, though there are other graphene-production companies worldwide, some provide an inferior quality of material.'

[superg1] 19/8/2017 07:28

Lucky

Does to matter which in the early stages.

Tests are tests and on many fronts. It depends on what the customers they are engaging with want.

EG The CEO was at Continental this week in Germany so the obvious guess is Continental are at least looking to see what gains can be made in tyres with graphene.

As for Nokia we know they are with the Cambridge ink and had been testing it on Rfids before VRS took on Cambridge ink. On Cambridge day I said "I know Nokia are working with Cambridge ink as not a listed in news and actual tests in scientific reports, are they still working with you"

The answer was yes. It's OK to say that as I pointed out that it is in public documents.

I am not aware of any cases of wanting to know what graphene does.

The process in near all cases will be. An identified issue, an enhancement or does graphene open up the opportunity to create new answers.

IF VRS were to record everything they were doing with all customers then you'd have to sit down for a few hours to read it.

Attending events is the way to learn about those things and then individuals can ask and find the answers (if not sensitive) for questions they have.

VRS also so open days where investors can fill the gaps in their knowledge. It's choice of going or not in most cases.

The AGM is not too far off so that's a good place to start.

So if you don't want the info via nods and winks of those willing to share what is said by the company, then the answer is to engage directly.

[luckykids] 19/8/2017 06:01

I don't think it unreasonable for the company to actually tell us whether their graphene is being used in free samples for testing. Or indeed whether we are selling graphene at commercial price for testing.

I prefer written communication from the company, rather than verbal nod or winks.

[festario] 18/8/2017 22:11

Well, the photo credit does go to the University of Cambridge.

[superg1] 18/8/2017 21:30

Very interesting, just found this on the web and it sounds like Versarien via the Cambridge ink.

Note Nokia mentioned too who were linked up before Versarien bought Cambridge ink.

Potentially exciting stuff.

[luckyorange] 18/8/2017 20:38

Reading about rfids (reminder on your link Vasilis) is a reminder that there will be a big change in the world as they are introduced.

It doesn't take a wild imagination to envisage how they will develop, slightly scary in a way, but it will happen!

[richardc77] 18/8/2017 17:51

Vasilis

Is the market opportunity really "much bigger" than the semi market?