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[sonsonnyjim] 21/8/2018 07:50

I'll do it lucky

[superg1] 21/8/2018 07:50

That last one is simple method I use re AIM companies. Once I spot a blatant lie I jog on, OR if someone keeps trying to sell it to me as a flier and to invest them I comment negatively on the BB about the BS.

Start ups have to sell themselves, in all cases they will embellish everything they can to get backing. Sadly for many that slips into fraud on a plan to keep the plates spinning while they pocket handsome salaries.

However the AIM is a 'police' free zone where multi-million pound frauds are not reported or investigated. So takers and crooks fill their boots without fear of prosecution.

That's the way I view the AIM and start looking at each company with that heavily in the back of my mind on claims.

Fraudsters are takers, givers simply can't behave in that way, they morals get in that way.

So the AIM attracts takers which seem to have attracted the name of 'lifestyle shares' rather than organised frauds which is what they are.

[luckyorange] 21/8/2018 07:47

Anyone care to ask Neill on twitter how much the team needs to be expanded?

I don't think we do enough of that considering the shorters use it all of the time to make their case.

If no-one cares to take up the mantle I will later, off out.

[superg1] 21/8/2018 07:38

run

I did wonder why you thought I may trash those but read on.


A key point from yesterdays podcast.

Justin asked if Neill considered VRS was the lead. NR replied that it was not for him to say and for others to judge as time goes on.


I say that as many of the new arrivals in the graphene sector make claims like this, I've read it a a few times now.

Comments like "We have the best quality graphene with the highest performance of any graphene and the cheapest production process"


As I have pointed out before to be able to make that statement you would need to know every process of the 100's of 'graphene' producers out there. Which effectively means you would need to know their IP.

Then you would need the details of every tests carried out by every graphene in every combination, loadings, different chemicals used, platelet size variations, types of products used it, the results of those and so on.

There would be 1000's of variables in play there.

So to make such claims are not only a lie but it's literally impossible. Yet many make them and investors fall for it.

Add in that it's said 25,000 papers on graphene (many to do with testing) are submitted each year.

Once you spot BS jog on.

Paragraf (which is CVD not GNPS)

With our proprietary IP in two-dimensional material manufacturing processes Paragraf have achieved the only current cost effective, epitaxial solution for repeatable, scalable, large area, semiconductor compatible production of two-dimensional materials and devices. Our graphene products have performance properties that are not only significantly beyond the current market materials but can be truly functionalised, designed with capabilities aligned to the targeted end product use of the material.


So that has got to be a load and BS lies. So why read anything else it surely can't be the only lie. Have they been to China checked every CVD process and tested the product?

You know the answer.

[spike_1] 21/8/2018 07:32

Dave LOL yes - but a bloody great big one towed behind a tractor which plodded tirelessly up and down cutting the pitch.

[spike_1] 21/8/2018 07:30

jointer I didn't sleep in! - much worse: I overnighted in a brilliant B&B close to the Somerset Arms in Cheltenham (so I wouldn't be late ;0), but then put a slightly wrong postcode into the nav, and not knowing he local area, ended up - literally - in the middle of a housing estate 12 miles from the rugby club, hence arriving just at the end of formal business. Doh!

[davemac3] 21/8/2018 07:28

spike, by "mechanical grass cutting machine" do you mean lawnmower?

[alchemy] 21/8/2018 07:20

I played at Gloucester once for Birmingham, outside Brian Corless , an International . A stand in I was because of a car accident, I lasted 35 minutes usefully and the whole game making up the numbers.I knew at the time it was a great ground .

[compoundup] 21/8/2018 07:19

If it's the same room as last year, it won't be just a few needing to stand. Based on 150+ having made it to the Cheltenham open day, I think a lot more space will be required.

[runthejoules] 21/8/2018 07:18

In other news, £VDTK announce.... mainly posting because I will enjoy superg1 rubbishing them:

Verditek PLC
("Verditek" or the "Company")

£2.0m to be raised through a private placement of a Convertible Loan Note



Core solar business to go live shortly in new factory in Italy

Company now well positioned to fully exploit the opportunities in its graphene joint development programme with Paragraf



London, 21 August 2018: Verditek plc (AIM: VDTK), the clean technology company, is pleased to announce the placement of a 10% unsecured convertible loan notes (the "Convertible Loan Notes") which will raise approximately £2 million pre-expenses. The Convertible Loan Notes mature on 25th July 2020 and have a conversion price of £ 0.10 per Verditek ordinary share ("Ordinary Share"). Participants in the placing include a leading UK institutional investor and a European based family office.

Use of funds

This funding, due on the 29th August will provide for the ramp up of the new factory in Lainate, Italy and its working capital requirement, as the Company goes into production with its new light weight solar technology. Importantly, it also gives the Company the additional financial flexibility to pursue the promising opportunity presented in the graphene joint venture with the Cambridge based technology group, Paragraf.

Commenting on the announcement, Geoff Nesbitt, CEO of Verditek, said:

"Following changes to leadership of the Company, including the recent appointment of Lord Willetts - former UK Minister of Science and Universities for the UK Government - as board chairman, we have revised our strategy to optimise the launch of our new light weight solar panel technology. We are delighted to have completed this funding, in support of the start-up of solar production, allowing us additional financial support to exploit the major opportunities we are pursuing. These include the very promising work being conducted with our joint venture partner Paragraf towards developing the world's first graphene solar cell."

Terms of the Convertible Loan Note

The Convertible Loan Notes have been issued by the Company in integral multiples of £10,000 with a conversion price of £0.10 per Ordinary Share. It is expected that an application will be made to The Channel Islands Securities Exchange Authority Limited for the Convertible Loan Notes to be admitted to trading on The International Stock Exchange ("TISE"). The Convertible Loan Notes and are freely transferable.

General update on Verditek plc

In BBR, the commercial opportunities articulated in the original admission document have been replaced with opportunities that provide better pursuit of early cashflow.

WES continues to develop opportunities with ICSI in Canada.

[jointer13] 21/8/2018 07:16

spike...don't sleep in this year. !

[spike_1] 21/8/2018 07:14

Well - I hope that if it's in the same room as last year they don't have the mechanical grass cutting machine working outside this time!

[realcooltrader] 21/8/2018 07:04

Notice of AGM, Gloucester Rugby Club offices on 25th Sept at 11.00am.

[1teepee] 21/8/2018 05:12

molybdenum disulphideThis our 3rd 2d material. It's the lubricant. So collaboration with durex maybe:)

[jointer13] 21/8/2018 04:56

graphene...restoring eyesight.

Graphene’s potential is being talked about again, and this time it could help restore the eyesight of millions of people.
The World Health Organization estimates that about 253m people across the world live with some form of vision impairment, many of which are caused by chronic eye diseases.
However, unlike many other medical conditions, these effects can be prevented or completely reversed in 80pc of cases.
This is largely to do with a lack of access to readily available medical services in some of the poorest countries, but a new artificial retina could one day drastically change this.
A world first
Presenting its findings to the American Chemical Society, an international team of researchers said it has successfully developed and tested the world’s first ultra-thin retina from the ‘wonder material’ known as graphene.
The flexible device could be implanted within a person’s eye and, with a few modifications, could be used to track heart and brain activity when placed in other parts of the body.
The device is based on how the natural retina works, whereby it contains specialised photoreceptor cells known as cones and rods.
Converting incoming light into nerve signals, these impulses travel into the brain via the optic nerve and are then decoded into visual images.
In diseases such as macular degeneration and diabetic retinopathy, retinal tissue is destroyed as they take hold, leading to vision loss or complete blindness.
With no known cure, researchers have worked to develop retinal implants to bypass the damaged tissue, but existing silicon-based devices are rigid, flat and fragile. On top of that, they often produce blurry or distorted images to the detriment of the user.
‘A very exciting starting point’
This latest device, meanwhile, used graphene and molybdenum disulphide as well as thin layers of gold, alumina and silicon nitrate to create a flexible, high-density and curved sensor array.
Resembling a flattened football, the device can conform itself to the shape of a natural retina without mechanically disturbing it.
“Although this research is still in its infancy, it is a very exciting starting point for the use of these materials to restore vision,” said Nanshu Lu of the research team.
Looking to the future, the team is aiming to integrate the technology into mechanically and optically imperceptible electronic tattoos that are laminated on the skin surface to gather real-time health information.

[squire007] 21/8/2018 00:40

Get that stock market .............????

[serratia] 21/8/2018 00:21

Didn't realise there were music lovers here. To avoid clogging up the VRS site there's a site ROCK where people post interesting music. I'm into most styles except rap which is more about the words than music. Floyd,Led Zep, AC/DC and blues. Try this clip especially if you're a biker (I have a couple). -



Apologies to VRS readers , back on topic in the morning.

[haz101] 21/8/2018 00:15

hxxps://news.sky.com/story/liam-fox-says-the-uk-can-be-an-exporting-superpower-exploiting-the-global-middle-class-11478103

[serratia] 21/8/2018 00:03

As it's late I'll join in. Nothing wrong with Meridian as I said tonal qualities are a personal choice. Meridian make other components apart from speakers and their total sales are less than Linn at £10m.
LUFC I have a Sondec with a Naim power supply Ittok arm and Koetsu cartridge. I recently spent an evening with a dealer who demonstrated streaming/CD and vinyl in a system probably costing nearly £100k. Streaming was a Naim costing £5k+, the CD was £15k+ and the deck £1.5k max. The streaming sound came last by a long way, the CD was OK and the deck easily out performed the others. I was given an explanation but it's too much for a VRS site.
I agree wireless speakers for the masses due to the convenience. I've heard the mu-so and it's fine for youtube whilst on the computer but way down the list for serious listening. It depends on how you want to listen to recorded music. For serious listening and in my case enjoyment vinyl tops the others but CD can be quite good.

[lufc5] 20/8/2018 23:48

IMHO everyone hears slightly differently.....

[haz101] 20/8/2018 23:42

Serratia - chicane, good taste :)

[lufc5] 20/8/2018 23:38

Wireless speakers, for the future masses.....
hxxps://www.whathifi.com/naim/mu-so/review

[chumbo] 20/8/2018 23:30

I have Naim for source/amps but Mission for speakers. American but quality and quantity perhaps?