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UTG Unite Group Plc

922.00
-10.50 (-1.13%)
24 Apr 2024 - Closed
Delayed by 15 minutes
Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Unite Group Plc LSE:UTG London Ordinary Share GB0006928617 ORD 25P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  -10.50 -1.13% 922.00 918.50 919.50 934.50 916.00 934.00 787,442 16:35:20
Industry Sector Turnover Profit EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap
Real Estate Agents & Mgrs 276.1M 102.5M 0.2546 36.10 3.7B
Unite Group Plc is listed in the Real Estate Agents & Mgrs sector of the London Stock Exchange with ticker UTG. The last closing price for Unite was 932.50p. Over the last year, Unite shares have traded in a share price range of 835.00p to 1,069.00p.

Unite currently has 402,581,000 shares in issue. The market capitalisation of Unite is £3.70 billion. Unite has a price to earnings ratio (PE ratio) of 36.10.

Unite Share Discussion Threads

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
23/2/2021
09:40
Pushing higher so perhaps the worst is behind us now.
its the oxman
22/2/2021
13:42
Well it was a wishy washy article as you say Maddox, most seem to be in the Times these days. Whether that hit the share price or whether it's down to technical trading around these levels as per Oxman who knows. I'm happy to keep topping up this holding with a long view. I'd be surprised by less than 30% return over the next 3 years
madengland_
22/2/2021
10:33
I suspect that the price fall today is prompted by an article in the Times 'Money laundering fears as universities accept £52m in cash' and 'Institutions are accused of laying a welcome mat for criminals'

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/money-laundering-fears-as-universities-accept-52m-in-cash-vrc7q6s9b

Few points to make about this:

>> the first and obvious one is that this relates to 49 universities - so averages at about £1.06m each; and

>> secondly, for money laundering to have taken place the money accepted would have to be the proceeds of crime - a predicate crime would have needed to have been committed. I doubt the Times has any evidence of this.

>> thirdly, the identity of the student will be clearly identified and the purpose of the funds is clear. If the source of the funds appears plausible it will be very difficult to find fault with the universities.

The Times article is pitched such that the universities 'inadvertently' and 'may' have committed the offence. It then adds some juicy quotes from un-named 'financial crime experts'.

Can't see this story running long.

Regards Maddox

maddox
20/2/2021
11:04
Have reduced slightly myself to fund other opportunities, but chart says to me we are due a bounce from the trend line. Though if the price breaks much lower than 950p then the bull case could struggle for a while. Hoping it goes up for all concerned.
its the oxman
19/2/2021
23:35
I can certainly confirm that in my day and for me socialising was the top priority!

I see that we have UCAS' university application data for 2021 just published - numbers are up again:

'Overall, a total of 616,360 people had applied, an increase of 8.5% and a new record for this point in the application cycle.'

and, significantly International students (excepting the EU) are also up:

'Applicants from outside of the EU continue to rise and are up this year by 17% to a record 85,610.

Applicants from China and India have increased to 25,810 (+21%) and 7,820 (+25%) respectively. The USA has seen the largest proportional increase of any major nation as applicant numbers have risen 61% to 6,670.

EU applicant numbers have decreased to 26,010 (-40%) as the short term effects and uncertainty at the end of the last calendar year surrounding the UK’s withdrawal from the European Union, and changes to student support arrangements, have impacted on applications from the continent. However, applicants from Ireland have increased by 26% to reach 4,850.'

www.ucas.com/corporate/news-and-key-documents/news/nursing-applications-soar-ucas-publishes-latest-undergraduate-applicant-analysis

and if you want to delve into the detail UCAS provide a very useful tool:

www.ucas.com/data-and-analysis/undergraduate-statistics-and-reports/ucas-undergraduate-releases/applicant-releases-2021/2021-cycle-applicant-figures-january-deadline

Significantly, this confirms expectations that the University Sector should bounce back in academic year 2021/22.

Regards Maddox

maddox
19/2/2021
18:46
Thanks for your thoughts, Maddox. Good question re possible re-basing of rental prices. I guess there is a possibility shorter term but I would've thought that, if the demand returns as is anticipated once the world starts opening up again, then rents ought to return to previous levels fairly pronto. At the end of the day rental prices will be driven by supply-and-demand (assuming that there is no regulation/controls of student accommodation prices). I know if I had been a student now, I would have been itching to get back to uni. As you stated in your presentation, for students the socialising is just as important as the studying... in fact for many it is probably for more important!

I kind of see the current share price as a reasonable entry level if you are willing to wait a couple of years or so for life to fully revert to normal. Unite's track record speaks for itself.

speedsgh
19/2/2021
17:48
Hi speedsgh and thank you.

The Stockopedia figs are one year 'rolling' figures so partly historic and forward looking. As the dividends are suspended I'm not clear how that yield is derived.

A few thoughts on dividends:

>> My base case is that when income fully recovers in fin year 2022 I would see UTG paying 33p (equal to expected but shelved 2019) and a 3.45% yield (on current 955p share price);

>> Then there are further synergies and cost efficiencies from the integration of Liberty Living to be gained. This might add 6p and give a prospective 4% on current share price, but I'm unsure whether or not Covid-factors might off-set some of this.

>> The NAV is directly linked to the rental yield - so when income is hit so are the values, similarly reversed when income recovers. The premium to NAV I interpret to reflect the growth potential (pipeline and uni deals).

Whilst I'm persuaded that demand will return, has their been some re-setting of rental prices that will take longer to recover?

Regards Maddox

maddox
19/2/2021
15:26
And a very good pitch it was too, Maddox. What is the dividend outlook? Is some kind of payment likely to be reintroduced in the FY20 finals to be released on 16/3? The Stocko figures in your presentation showed a yield of 2.67%. Is that historical or forecast?

The share price is currently at a 15% premium to the 30/6/20 EPRA NAV. Does that mean that the market is expecting NAV growth to have resumed again in the finals or is it rather looking forward anticipating future NAV growth on the horizon once the world hopefully start reverting to some kind of normal?

Histroical NAV:
833p as at 30/6/20
853p as at 31/12/19
820p as at 30/6/19
790p as at 31/12/18
761p as at 30/6/18
720p as at 31/12/17
669p as at 30/6/17
646p as at 31/12/16
620p as at 30/6/16
579p as at 31/12/15
521p as at 30/6/15
434p as at 31/12/14

speedsgh
19/2/2021
14:56
I pitched UTG as my StockSlam pick 17 Feb 2021:

www.piworld.co.uk/2021/02/19/stockopedia-piworld-virtual-stockslam-february-2021-with-damian-cannon/

This was the first virtual StockSlam and it attracted an audience of c. 1,200 investors. StockSlammers are restricted to just three minutes to pitch a share - which is a very tough ask, when you have a lot to say.

Anyway, great fun and a great event very well run, hosted by Damian Cannon, and webcast by Tamzin and Tim of PI World. Very well done to all the other presenters, with an eclectic mix of shares worthy of further research.

Regards Maddox

maddox
17/2/2021
10:27
Unite has published a Student Survey this morning:



The up-shot is that we can expect a rapid recovery in Unite's trading, once Covid-19 restrictions allow. The findings are:

>> 77% students struggled with mental health and wellbeing as a result of Covid-19, but 84% say engaging in university life has been positive for their mental health;

>> Students' biggest challenge this year is the lack of face-to-face teaching, practical experience or facilities;

>> Traditional face-to-face university experience is key for students: 86% are keen to get onto university campus once it is safe to do so; 75% agree that living in university accommodation and being on campus is as important a part of the University experience as lectures and tutorials; and

>> Four in five (79%) students would like a return to face-to-face tuition after the Easter break.

This based on a survey of 2000 students.

Covid-19 has been very instructive: It has demonstrated just how robust the demand is for the University experience. Going to University is clearly a culturally entrenched 'right of passage' for the UK's young adults.

It has often been postulated that on-line learning would disrupt this tradition. Covid-19 has provided the opportunity to test this hypothesis. Whilst, on-line learning has clearly allowed for teaching to continue during the Covid-19 Lockdowns - but is certainly not a substitute for the Uni experience.

These are two extremely significant points for anyone assessing the risks of investing in this sector.

Regards Maddox

maddox
15/2/2021
12:01
Well good luck on timing the market oxman. Over the years I've come to rest on the old adage it's time in the market as oppose to timing the market that works best, but probably because I am an awful trader. This would seem a decent entry point and am pretty sure when our pubs are open, the sun is shining and the university cities bustling sub 1100p will feel like a steal.
madengland_
14/2/2021
23:49
Thinking I should of I sold out completely at 1100p, asking myself now if this is dead money for 12 months and should I sell and move on. Still see utg as long term winner , more a case of short term opp cost I guess.
its the oxman
04/2/2021
11:23
Well if we hit 850 I will be filling my boots for sure!
madengland_
03/2/2021
19:10
Barclays has downgraded UTG on the back of their ongoing exposure to the Covid-19 pandemic. The bank cut its rating to 'underweight' from 'overweight', and reduced its target price for the shares by 22% to 850p.

It said there were four key reasons behind the rating shift.
"The drivers of the change are: assumed negative news flow in the near term; our expectation of more negative earnings per share impact in the 2021 full year than currently assumed by the market; deferred total accounting returns, which we do not think are reflected in the group’s premium rating (18% premium to full-year 2021 net asset value versus our coverage average around 14% discount); and an increase in our discount rate," said the analysts, who put their earnings per share forecasts 19% below consensus.

I've bought a few today. I also hold Empiric, a much larger holding, which I've held for a while.

okosling
03/2/2021
18:23
Yep, UTG always manage to get themselves ahead of the pack.

In the round the positive sentiment and credibility they are creating will be paid back several-fold if it helps them win University deals. For example, the London Development Plan means that any PBSA developments in London will in future need a University partner - no partner, no planning permission.

These PBSA deals are very long-term relationships where the Universities students are the customers. They'll want to pick a trustworthy fair-dealing partner like Unite, particularly if they are prime on-campus locations.

maddox
03/2/2021
14:49
Surprised by the drop today it's got to be said. Looks tempting to buy a few more
madengland_
03/2/2021
10:03
UTG continuing to play the long game well. 4p EPS is a small price for trust with the students, government and universities and at the same time encouraging to see we are 84% paid for term 2 at this point.
madengland_
19/1/2021
09:33
Beware the curse of the IC tip :-)
madengland_
18/1/2021
09:53
It always 'appears darkest just before dawn' it is often said. With the rapid roll-out of vaccines the dawn cannot be too far away. The above 65s vulnerable and front-line worker total 13.5m people and we're getting to wards high coverage in nursing homes and 70+. However, there is a delay before the vaccine becomes effective and the hospitals are facing the peak pressure so news is still very grim.

The share price appears to have faltered due to the discounts being offered to students unable to occupy their accommodation. But it's difficult to see Covid-19 as anything other than a short-term hit. The limits to the desirability of Zoom meetings and on-line learning have been revealed. Student's have a compelling need for physical social interaction and are longing to get back to normal. This suggests that the bounce back and sentiment towards the sector could change very fast.

Investors Chronicle are looking to a strong recovery 'with analysts forecasting earnings to grow at a compound annual rate of 36.7 per cent, over the next 24 months' and earnings to be 14% above 2019 levels. With prospects for the rest of the economy looking uncertain, and property sector (esp. retail and office) looking challenged - the Purpose Built Student Accommodation (PBSA) will look to be a stable and attractive source of income and growth.

High expectations for student landlords

maddox
14/1/2021
12:24
Well I think this is one that it's worth reading Maddox post and also recent Times article.Planners are certainly seeing bigger students blocks as way of taking pressure off communities and housing stock by private landlords and all the issues HMO brings. This is likely to throw open more opportunities. At the same time UTG are burnishing their image. Smart long play
madengland_
14/1/2021
10:51
8m hit from missed rent is relatively small beer. Feels like all the bad news is in the price now. Hopeful of a sustained recovery from this level, 1000p, going forward.
its the oxman
08/1/2021
12:06
Not sure but all I do know is I employ a lot of university students and most are back in their digs
madengland_
07/1/2021
13:47
Is it a case of no student accommodation refunds this time round?
its the oxman
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