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TPA Triplearc

5.92
0.00 (0.00%)
28 Mar 2024 - Closed
Delayed by 15 minutes
Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Triplearc LSE:TPA London Ordinary Share GB0031067340 ORD 5P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.00% 5.92 - 0.00 00:00:00
Industry Sector Turnover Profit EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap
0 0 N/A 0

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
31/1/2008
22:23
Thanks Gary.

Maybe we can presume that there was a forced seller of over 8M on 29.01



The company may be doing the same as it was prior to this sell so once the overhang has been cleared then the price could return to 3p+ where it was trading before.

There has been no indication from the company of worsening conditions as yet. So it could present a good buying opportunity at 1.1p.

knowing
31/1/2008
21:38
The whole industry is struggling at the moment. There will only be a few big boys left in a few years time. Communisis, Williams Lea, Formpromm to name a few. Costs' are increasing from suppliers and competetion is fierce from other manufacturers. And yes, I am in the industry and know a lot about it having spent 20 years in it. TPA are in a better postion than many at the moment so a recovery should be expected.
garykc
31/1/2008
21:17
AccessPlus has appointed Trevor Weldon to the position of group business development director as of 2nd January 2008. Trevor, who has twenty years of print management experience, is responsible for the acquisition of new business which includes increasing product portfolios for both new and existing clients and the development and recruitment of the group's sales force. As an executive director, Trevor is also a member of the TripleArc Group executive steering committee and of the group's operational board.
knowing
31/1/2008
21:14
If the position was reached where the cash flow couldn't meet capital repayments, then I am sure the bank would be happy to re-negotiate terms rather than have a fire sale.
kimboy2
31/1/2008
20:49
Speculation kenny...we need facts. The book is probably worth alot to the right buyer along with their tax losses too which you forgot to mention.

finbarr 3p from 1p or .75 is negligable ;-)

knowing
31/1/2008
19:11
Why would someone take on this company and its debts when in a few months you could buy the businesses from the liquidator for a song.

Why pay £2m for the shares when the company has a negatice balance sheet of -£14m, excluding goodwill.

Buy the business out of the company for £6m and leave the bank with a loss of £8m and the shareholders with a total loss.

Alternative of buying the company is an effective cost of £16m plus for a company who has made losses the last 3 years in a market that continues to deteriote.

Look back two years, I said they need a rights issue to survive; they did not do that at the time, presumably because no one would give then the money. In today's climate they will not raise a bean.

Free cash flow was £23k a month in the last results. So they only need a few bad months and they are a gonner. I would guess they already are - that's why someone sold 8.5m shares for whatever they could get for them.

kenny
31/1/2008
18:08
Knowing/Kenny,

your respective arguments are good but where is this going now?In my view, it will drop further to say .75p but that the tpa cash flow will entice a buyer who can either easily assume the debt or pay it off. My guess at a takeout price is in the region of 3p.If it is not taken out by June, it will tank.

finbarr
31/1/2008
17:12
The fact is they paid about £3m in costs to purchase some businesses for about £8m, about 2 years ago.

They overpaid for the operations they bought as well having to pay very high fees to buy those businesses.

The above facts are evidenced by the results since the purchases which have shown substantial losses. Even if the businesses they bought were worth the price they paid they were doomed at the outset by the 38% extra they paid to raise the money to buy them.

These are all facts which can be estabiled by researching the history of this company - anyone considering a purchase should firstly do their research on the history of this company (let alone the sale of 8.5m shares at 0.5p).

If you look back 2 years (including you Knowing) you will see I posted all of these facts back then.

kenny
31/1/2008
16:30
Interesting thoughts all thank you.
knowing
31/1/2008
16:23
The cliff-like share price may have something to do with 8.5m shares traded at 0.5p early on 29 Jan but this is about 4% of issued share cap so there should be an RNS on this by now.

the only implicit good news is that TPA got through 31 December and managed to pay the next instalment of debt and interest on time but I don't think that the Directors got many Christmas cards from their suppliers. The vacancy adverts can either mean that new business growth is spectacular and more staff are needed - or - existing staff are leaving in droves.

But at a mkt cap of £2m it is tempting to stick a small toe in the water. IMHO HSBC can't afford to let this one sink.

threewheels
31/1/2008
15:56
Kenny any facts ?
knowing
31/1/2008
10:40
It is impossible to know exactly what is happening and whether the fall is specifically related to the company or whther it is general market sentiment against something that is risky.

They are still recruiting if that means anything;

kimboy2
31/1/2008
10:22
Making losses. Run out of money. No bank is going to let it have any more money. No hope of making a profit with the debt and costs this company is carrying.

Result = shareholders lose everything when business is sold for less than debt.

kenny
31/1/2008
09:59
So do any of you bears have any firm facts as to why the price has declined?
knowing
30/1/2008
14:12
Going bust because no bank is going to let them have any more money.
kenny
30/1/2008
12:18
Clarky firstly no I am not and secondly if that was the case and they were in difficulties then they would have to inform the market.You have been bearish about TPA for a long time and called it right however I have traded it three or four times and made a good return.

Now I am watching it to see what the developments are and to decide if it is worth buying at an all time low.

knowing
30/1/2008
10:53
Don't be a silly boy coming on here and starting trouble just to ramp one of your stocks V88.

Oh and learn to spell first ;-)

knowing
30/1/2008
10:52
Knowing is probably still as optimistic on this rubbish as he has been for the past 2 years. Where are they going to go at 1p a share, 1/20 th of their original value? Game over, will the last one to leave please put out the cat..............
clarkyboy1
29/1/2008
18:25
knowing you cant still be holding your 8p purchace in this surely not,

was this your pump and dump da lot excise lol, i dont know what to think about you knowing.

now here's a tip take it or leave it OXB has fallen off its perch 19p to buy r/now i have a 16p target on it, but if it hits that level it will be well over sold, you can thank me lator, and your other mate is on the the oxb boared romust the northern nutter you will be a twin double,66 clickerty click.

Now for a class of cherry

vision88
29/1/2008
15:27
what are options now?
finbarr
28/1/2008
15:15
He's good though, he has got about 20 right, most dropping by 80%
aliandamanda
15/12/2007
02:08
Oh Dear not much Christmas Cheer on this one.
All the new offices and Print Week won't help this one. .10p false hope or new CEO to much debt to recover,

adzecc
29/11/2007
09:05
Clearly the company can't afford to meet their debt commitments, and don't look likley to ever be in a sufficiently profitable position to do so. However, the company will be worth more to the bank trading than not, so HSBC will probably bring in their own CEO and CFO and fire the incumbents
clarkyboy1
23/11/2007
12:27
none of the above... sell recommendation from Precision Guided Investments...

however the possibility of option 2, in the face of weakening markets, higher costs and higher financing charges drove the sell recommendation...

romin
23/11/2007
10:00
What do we reckon ?

Number of options;
1. Going bust
2. Placing
3. Delayed reaction to general outlook for vulnerable companies
4. Panic

kimboy2
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