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TLY Totally Plc

4.80
-0.35 (-6.80%)
28 Mar 2024 - Closed
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Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Totally Plc LSE:TLY London Ordinary Share GB00BYM1JJ00 ORD 10P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  -0.35 -6.80% 4.80 4.50 5.30 5.15 4.90 5.15 1,501,741 16:35:15
Industry Sector Turnover Profit EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap
Newspaper:pubg, Pubg & Print 135.7M 1.78M 0.0091 5.38 9.63M
Totally Plc is listed in the Newspaper:pubg, Pubg & Print sector of the London Stock Exchange with ticker TLY. The last closing price for Totally was 5.15p. Over the last year, Totally shares have traded in a share price range of 4.10p to 24.50p.

Totally currently has 196,546,800 shares in issue. The market capitalisation of Totally is £9.63 million. Totally has a price to earnings ratio (PE ratio) of 5.38.

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
01/12/2017
11:11
graham,

I was thinking the same that the extra cash collected was from Vocare... They bought them recently so it seems the feasible... I also agree that there maybe more to come, as they did say 'No less than'..

sikhthetech
01/12/2017
07:48
Been thinking. The only place that extra cash could have come from is Vocare, looks like they weren't the best at collecting in debts. We also have to remember that TLY now have potentially 3 accountants as directors and i'm sure Bob could probably see that in their accounts when they were looking to buy them.

What is the payment terms for the NHS 30 days?. If so the majority of costs for Vocare would be labour which is possibly paid monthly. So the majority of the cash would be additional i.e cash not collected after the 30 days and with no creditors creditors to pay (apart from telecoms).

Also sounds like more to come.

grahamwales
30/11/2017
18:44
Cash balances, (ie taking everything into account) not cash balance, or total cash, or cash at bank. Therefore comparing like with like from the Allenby forecast, imho.

Yawn.

microscope
30/11/2017
17:45
again, read the rns from THIS MORNING...

MARKET FORECASTS of £4.1m... revised upwards to NO LESS than £8m...
so they are comparing the new cash balance to the market forecast...


They received an extra £4m in a little over a month (since the Alenby report) and they say NO LESS THAN...

They are only HALF WAY between the Alenby report and the Dec yr end...
They still have a month, they could stay focused on collecting money and receive a few more millions, couldn't they?



"In addition, following significant focus by management on cash collection, the Directors expect the cash balance of the Group to be significantly ahead of market expectations as at 31 December 2017. Market forecasts had anticipated cash balances to be GBP4.1million as at 31 December 2017, this number has been revised upwards to no less than GBP8.0million."

sikhthetech
30/11/2017
16:56
Pug

In which case if I was you I would find another share to look to buy, way to many red flags here. Bye

grahamwales
30/11/2017
16:41
sikhthetech: Thanks for double drawing attention to CASH BALANCE - possible red flag - You can have a cash balance at the same time as having a load of unpaid creditors - Semantics I know but some are taking as NET cash balance. If it is supposed to be this the rns should have said NET CASH BALANCE- Sorry that now makes 3 possible red flags -


Note the Albany note refers to NET cash - A very different animal to cash balance.

Has anyone seen or got access to the the Cenkos note?.

pugugly
30/11/2017
16:20
He can't read can you show him pictures
grahamwales
30/11/2017
16:08
blockchain,

How much cash???

The BoD told us all THIS MORNING... did you not read the rns????

DOUBLE what they were expecting...




"In addition, following significant focus by management on cash collection, the Directors expect the cash balance of the Group to be significantly ahead of market expectations as at 31 December 2017. Market forecasts had anticipated cash balances to be GBP4.1million as at 31 December 2017, this number has been revised upwards to no less than GBP8.0million."

sikhthetech
30/11/2017
16:00
Do you know how much cash is left?
Losses make it unable to sustain itelslf

blockchain
30/11/2017
15:59
Main thing now is that they can fund the new aqusition in 2018. Looking for some cost savings next year putting a lot of admin functions to one office.

Build and buy shares at this stage.

grahamwales
30/11/2017
15:47
Blockchain or should we call you blockhead you dipstick. What happened to your profit warning pmsl. The only profit warning that I can see is that yes they will be making profit long before that stupid Allenby forecast.
grahamwales
30/11/2017
15:43
Looks finished
blockchain
30/11/2017
15:42
Micro,

good post...

sikhthetech
30/11/2017
15:30
Recent PR from TLY, if anyone hasn't seen it...

PR:

sikhthetech
30/11/2017
15:30
Small profit or small loss for 2017, I'm not that fussed at this stage. They are doing what was promised, 'adding and building' as Sikh says, and as long as the outlook for the year beyond is positive, that's fine by me.

£8 million will underpin their strategy for the next 18 months, though some of it will doubtless go towards acquisitions. And with the 'ear' of institutions, they should be able to raise money as and when to make further substantive bolt-ons.

Also, now I have it from the horse's mouth that business is on track, and cash far above expectations, I'm happy to have taken an initial stake, even if there is still a seller lurking. I know that my intended medium/long term investment is in good hands in a company with a strong financial position and any short term price movements are therefore of fairly limited interest to me now.

Take on board pug's sensible questions, but in the bigger scheme of things, fairly marginal concerns to me, and I'd rather someone vastly experienced like Bob Holt in the van, than some unproven newbie.

The 'bigger picture' seems to me very positive, and I'm confident that in a year the market cap of £20 million will be left well behind, and we'll be amazed it was so low.

microscope
30/11/2017
15:11
cottoner,

thanks for that...


and this morning they said Vocare is trading in line with expectations, so my understanding would be that they're still expecting Vocare to return to profitability during remainder of this year, fy Mar 2018..


"The Vocare business, which operates in the integrated urgent care sector working directly with the NHS and which was formally acquired by the Company on 24 October 2017, is trading in line with Directors' expectations. Vocare's core trading period is over the winter months and the Directors believe the business is well positioned to successfully deliver operationally and financially during this period."

sikhthetech
30/11/2017
15:02
For info:

From Vocare Admission Document:

Vocare

The unaudited management accounts for the five months ended 31 August 2017 show that during this period Vocare made an operating loss of £786,000 on turnover of £27,408,000. Exceptional non-recurrent expenditure, largely relating to quality improvement initiatives, accounted for £325,000 of the loss. Trading losses before exceptional items were anticipated due to the seasonality of the business. The loss for the period has been funded by cash reserves within the Group. The Vocare management team anticipates a return to profitability in the remainder of the financial year.

cottoner
30/11/2017
14:49
Nobody's saying BH can walk on water... Today's TU backs up what the BoD have been saying regarding their 'add and build' strategy... the subsidiaries are all profitable after tax... we'll know soon enough how profitable...

The fact remains BH is well respected in the city as can be seen by the fact he has had no problem raising money... TLY was a tiny company yet BH managed to raise over £24m since he took office - if the IIs backers didn't believe the BoD's strategy then I think he would have had problems with the last fund raising of around £18m...

and the current Mcap is £20m, yet they have £8m in cash to use towards further acquisitions...

He must be doing something right...

sikhthetech
30/11/2017
14:12
Nobby - U are right but the fact that no mention of movement towards profitability was the reason I rasied a potential flag - Just natural caution I suspect having been burnt by Green Compliance in the old days where Holt was chairman. Companies where he is involved do not always walk on water - current example where he is a notifiable (or was - have not checked recently ) is APC -.
pugugly
30/11/2017
12:52
Totally doubles cash balance
sikhthetech
30/11/2017
12:12
Pug,

Good points...


"Annual basis - Not annually - OK a nit-pick but only proportionally - would like to see a full years trading to be sure that all is OK."



The 3 acquisitions, PPH, About Health and Optimium were all bought in 2016, March, June and Nov 2016, respectively and so a full years trading should be included in the fy results...


I suspect they say annualised because they are changing the accounting year reference date from Dec 31st to March 31st...although I accept I could be wrong...




"Vocare - "Trading in line with expectations" Message received NOT YET PROFITABLE- however as improved cash collection no way of determining cash burn"

They only bought Vocare last month and we haven't seen the crucial winter period...too early to say anything other than 'in line with expectations'.... Will they and NHS cope with the winter pressures, we won't know until the spring..

sikhthetech
30/11/2017
12:01
>>Pug

I think you are being a little pessimistic. The original documents about the takeover said that Vocare was expected to trade profitably in the second half....

nobbygnome
30/11/2017
11:54
Interesting update - Some bull points and possibly 2 red flags
* Annual basis - Not annually - OK a nit-pick but only proportionally - would like to see a full years trading to be sure that all is OK.
* Vocare - "Trading in line with expectations" Message received NOT YET PROFITABLE- however as improved cash collection no way of determining cash burn
Bull points
* Vocare - Financial management significantly tightened up - as expressed by cash collection
* Well positioned in respect of integrated services contracts.

market action suggests still stock overhang being sold into PI buying on the update -

Level 2 evenly balanced - but not order book driven so probably not significant.

pugugly
30/11/2017
11:44
The TU took me by surprise. I wasn't expecting it, as they reported an update in the the Vocare admission only a month ago but the additional cash collected is a great bonus...

Excellent TU...

3 subsidiaries trading profitably after tax..


"Totally's Premier, About Health and Optimum Physiotherapy subsidiaries (the "Existing Businesses") which were integrated into the Company during the first half of 2017 are all trading profitably after tax on an annual basis "


and looks like the BoD believe that Vocare can handle the pressures expected over the winter period... Spring will be a good time to see how they managed it...


" Vocare's core trading period is over the winter months and the Directors believe the business is well positioned to successfully deliver operationally and financially during this period."

sikhthetech
30/11/2017
10:56
If my maths is anywhere near right that's something like 13p a share in cash, or about 40% of the market cap
microscope
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