Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Tetragon Fin LSE:TFG London Ordinary Share GG00B1RMC548 ORD USD0.001
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +$0.00 +0.00% $12.875 $12.80 $12.95 $12.875 $12.875 $12.875 1,000 08:00:00
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
General Financial 200.0 167.8 0.0 - 1,121.41

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Well, it's divi day - big night out planned for the proceeds :-)
value hound
Thanks Riverman, I didn't know BET owned some of them. Interesting because I like what BET are doing in Japan and was interested that they took a punt in Pershing Square which I was tempted by but passed on. I will research further. I've bought £6k of TFG for the reasons stated in your final para
Rambutan - that depends if the fees go back into the company or straight to the directors as a bonus. Makinbuks - if you go to the British Empire investment trust website (which holds TFG) there is a copy of a Questor article from about a year ago which gives some background as to why these trade on discount. I'm thinking of buying a few - the performance has been consistently strong for years now, has a low correlation to wider markets and a nice dividend while waiting for discount to narrow.
Added, but via TFGS - on a Sterling only platform. Yes, fees are high, but then we are getting back those same high fees from the management assets owned.
Still on the sidelines here.
I can forgive high fees for their historic performance. Picked up a few more today.
Why does this trade at such a consistently large discount? Appears to have an excellent performance record with attractive yield and discount. High fees? Concerns over conflict of interest?
Is the fall in CWD significant ? Arn't Polygon or Oaktree large holders ? Not familiar with this stock.
Agree SKY, although mainly down to huge write up in GreenOak. Still, that's the beauty of its diversification. I also noted the appointment of JP Morgan as joint broker. I'm happy to hold, get paid the div and wait for the double pronged rerate ie nav up and discount in.
These were drawn to my attention last week by a fund manager friend. I have been investigating and so far all looks good. I would anticipate pressure on the Company to narrow the discount. Excluding the cash held the discount is rather higher! Sky - are you invested here? Bud
A good March took the NAV back up to $21.19 - discount at 39%: monthly-factsheet-mar-2018.pdf
RNS Tetragon Financial Group (TFG) reported a 2.8% NAV total return for H117, with positive contributions made by all asset classes in the portfolio. Although below the target 10-15% range, annualised return on equity for the half year of 7.2% was ahead of the 6.3% achieved in 2016. Tetragon's share price total return was 7.4% for the six months to end-June 2017, with the discount narrowing by 2.1pp to 36.4% over the period. Dividends continue their steady progression, with the Q217 dividend increased by 4.5% from Q216 to US$0.1750 per share, and Tetragon's 5.3% dividend yield ranks as the second highest in the Flexible Investment sector. Tetragon's share price discount to NAV has steadily contracted since February 2016. The current 36.2% discount is narrower than its 39.5% five-year average but is wider than its five-year low of 20.4%, leaving significant scope for the narrowing trend to continue. Tetragon's 5.3% dividend yield ranks as second highest in its Flexible Investment sector peer group, significantly ahead of the 2.2% average.
Liberum; CLO funds Slowdown in loan spread compression Event Carador Income Fund and Blackstone GSO Loan Financing (BGLF) have both announced NAV gains of 0.9% for May. US CLO debt tranches performed relatively well in the month (gains of 1.1% and 1.8% BB and B tranches) during a broadly positive period for credit markets. BGLF completed a €50m investment in Blackstone / GSO US Corporate Funding, the adviser's US affiliate which established two new US CLOs in the month. BGLF now has exposure to three US CLOs in its portfolio. BGLF has also applied to the UKLA for a premium listing on the Main Market (currently specialist fund segment). The quote will also change to Sterling to enable the company to be included in indices. CLO funds - NAV performance May-17 YTD 12 months Fair Oaks Income Fund n/a 5.8%* 31.5%* Carador Income Fund 0.9% 3.7% 24.9% Volta Finance 0.6% 3.3% 19.3% Blackstone/GSO Loan Financing 0.9% 1.3% 7.3% Source: Liberum estimates *figures to end of April 2017 Despite relatively low supply, spread compression across the loan market has decelerated. Loan issuance was the lowest month YTD with €5.6bn in Europe and $44.3bn in the US. In Europe, low loan supply in addition to a high level of prepayments led to an increase in the supply shortage. Loan repricing remains relatively high in the US and this is expected to continue into the end of Q2 2017 with 68% of the loan market trading above par. CLO equity investors have largely been able to offset the reduced yield on loan portfolios by refinancing/resetting CLO liabilities although the pace of refinancing activity slowed in May. Carador reset once CLO during the month which resulted in a 16% increase in valuation. Liberum view The reduction in yield compression echoes what NB Global Floating Rate Income Fund has been experiencing in relation to a slowdown in repricing activity as the yield to maturity on new issues has remained steady. CLO equity investors have benefited from the ability to refinance/reset CLO debt tranches at a lower average cost to maintain the arbitrage of the portfolio spread over the cost of funding. The length of reinvestment periods is also increasing to the benefit of equity investors. The CLO funds trade on an average 0.7% discount to NAV (10.9% dividend yield).
TwentyFour Asset Management views on CLOs; The recent trend of spread tightening across the fixed income space is also impacting the leveraged loan market, with spreads tightening from 4.8% to 4.25% (Moody’s Analytics) on average over the past year. Not surprisingly, the more recently issued CLOs are more acutely impacted as they lack a base of more seasoned, higher yielding assets. These new CLOs are forced to buy lower spread assets, with the most recent deals investing with a weighted average spread of 3.8-4.1%. In addition, prepayment speeds are at elevated levels and hence we expect the average spread for 2015-2016 transactions to reduce further. Over the same period, however, average returns for the equity tranches have remained fairly stable. We have looked at the relevant statistics to understand what is happening to these transactions and how they can still pay the equity with a stable return. The initial reaction would be that managers must be increasing risk to maintain the same equity pay-out. However, we can see this has not been the case, when we look at the “Weighted Average Rating Factor” (WARF); it has deteriorated slightly but remains relatively comfortably around the B2 rating level. Encouragingly, over the same period we have seen portfolio diversification significantly improve. Source: Moody’s Analytics So managers have not added a significant amount of risk, spreads are tighter, but equity yields have been fairly stable? The first factor contributing to this is that default rates of leveraged loans are running at very low levels and even “distressed221; assets (priced below 80c on the dollar) are running at the lowest level seen since the financial crisis. The second factor has been managers selling assets, especially fixed rate bonds, that rallied a long way above par that became inefficient for the CLOs. Selling these assets at a premium resulted in a yield boost for the equity tranches. Lastly, and probably the most important factor, has been the ability of CLOs to adjust the cost of the liabilities to the new assets’ environment. Around €15bln of CLOs (source : Morgan Stanley) already repriced their liabilities focusing mainly on the senior, IG-rated part of the capital structure especially the AAA rated tranches that are the main driver of a CLO’s cost of funding, representing on average 60% of the total stack. As a result CLO spreads have tightened 60-250bps over the past 12-months in the AAA to B rated classes; although there remain large differences between managers and between vintages. This is one of the reason why CLOs were one of our top picks for 2017, and with BBs yielding around L+6% they still deliver attractive returns in a low yield environment without compromising on credit quality. That said we remain cautious on equity tranches, as the arbitrage is thin with little room for error and specific manager selection is now more important than ever!
On the move at last
Tetragon Financial Group (TFG:NA, or TFG:LN) (5.5% of current portfolio): Share Price: USD 12.55 Market Cap: USD 1,172 Million Looking at the longer-term chart, one might presume TFG’s NAV discount has been closing steadily…but in reality, the shares have mostly been tracking NAV higher. After the recent $50 million tender offer, I estimate NAV’s increased to $20.12 per share (all else being equal)…leaving Tetragon trading on a 38% discount to NAV. And stripping out net cash, it actually trades on an ex-cash 50% discount to the value of its investments & asset management platform. Noting TFG’s balance sheet strength, its record of compounding NAV by 15% pa in the last 5 years (& 12% pa since the original 2007 IPO), a generous & progressive dividend policy (which now offers a 5.3% dividend yield), and a history of tender offers & buybacks ($250 million+ in the last 3 years), this valuation makes little sense. Two main objections are generally cited: The first being Tetragon’s portfolio, which is supposedly chock-full of CLO equity…whereas in reality, CLO equity now amounts to just 24% of NAV, a ratio that continues to fall. The second is management itself – certainly well deserved, based on past history – but TFG now has 24% insider ownership, and management has actually demonstrated consistent alignment with shareholders in the past few years. Quite obviously, growing the asset management business & increasing the share price/NAV has become a far more lucrative proposition now than attempting to gouge shareholders. Fortunately, technicals confirm this: After trading a tight $9.50-11.60 range for most of the last 4 years, the shares broke decisively higher in December – I wouldn’t be surprised to see a $14 price handle soon (& further progress in due course). Management is also placing increasing emphasis on the AUM growth & earnings of TFG’s alternative asset management platform, currently focused mainly on credit, real estate & infrastructure. AUM has grown (primarily organically) an astonishing 33% pa in the last 4 years, to reach almost $19 billion now – despite the growth focus, it already boasts 30-40% EBITDA margins. Management also dual-listed the shares in London, expanded research coverage, invested more time in dial-in & road-show presentations, and has now begun wooing the business press – the ultimate intention here is to IPO the alternative asset management business. But I’m also conscious another of my holdings here – Fortress Investment Group (FIG:US), also a cash-rich & under-valued alternative asset manager – is actually TFG’s largest shareholder (controlling a 14-15% stake). I’d actually rate the chances of a merger/takeover here just as likely as an IPO, noting FIG’s long & extensive experience with building investment platforms & spinning out permanent capital vehicles… For this & other top picks, check/Google my latest 'Top Trumps For 2017...' post on the Wexboy investment blog.
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