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Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Tern Plc LSE:TERN London Ordinary Share GB00BFPMV798 ORD 0.02P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.0% 10.00 9.50 10.50 10.00 10.00 10.00 14,393 07:47:07
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Software & Computer Services 0.1 -0.8 -0.3 - 27

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
10/6/2019
08:03
Is this the week we break 12.25p if so high teens will be quick
jprich
10/6/2019
07:39
They are really desperate, one is on the verge of a breakdown completely it has taken over his whole life, the other one can hardly string 3 sentences together and does not even know what market TERN are in, they will be gone very soon not able to cope with all the news and rising S/P.
wardy333
10/6/2019
07:28
Shorts paying coin to get their posts read. Desperate times for them. Your plusone coins will be worth more than your short, best to hang on to them.
warrenfingerfood
10/6/2019
07:26
Target 0p.DA to be impaired.
jonc
10/6/2019
07:15
NEVER GONNA HAPPEN. EVER.
seewhatimean
10/6/2019
07:15
Where is Brexit???????????????????????
seewhatimean
10/6/2019
07:15
Where are those pesky DA 'sales'????????????????????????????
seewhatimean
10/6/2019
06:47
Any news this week and watching the trading could well be quite entertaining so have brought in Joe & Seph's popcorn just in case
sweepie2
10/6/2019
05:04
My anti depressants impact my sleep and so again I post throughout the night so you can all read my posts in the morning.It's so easy to be critical of other posts, but let's be honest we all know Tern is going places.My employer is not happy with the increase in the share price last week. I sense I could soon be out of a job.Anyway let's look on the bright side at least that hard on has finally gone to sleep, I've been sweating and stroking it a lot over the last 24 hours as you can all imagine.
duxy789
10/6/2019
00:32
After all that waffle from Johnna and actybod here is the reality. Johnma, you are comparing apples with oranges and based on this, any normal sane human would thing you've gone bananas.This is no Uber, WhatApp, Facebook or Skype. In fact, term is nearly an AIM listed investment vehicle with a 35% share in FVR and a slightly larger portion device authority. Both of these have not got sales or revenue seen by the likes of any of the companies you mention in you stupidly long, waste of time post. The simple reason for this is those the B2C products/services and what FVR and DA are is B2B. They had those projections because their product was taken up by the masses, across the globe, dry very quickly.Take WhatApp as an example. They charged $1 after the first year of free use. That netted them $1M in the second year, by which time they had a million users. That's is what you call revenue.Now let's look at device authority. After 5 years, the have to name, two customer paying them just over £62k a year. How is that any comparison to WhatApp.Suggest you stop talking out of you behind and get with reality. You and you frienda ebomber, kkrriss2, jamonit, still waiting, maarleck along with many other here are playing a dirty deception game. Lying to make the ramping stick so that every man and his dog buy in to this raising the price for you to sell out.
duxy786
09/6/2019
23:42
This board was and is one of the best for research. This has a huge silent following who are in and are topping up when they can. The IOT market is burgeoning. I think AS probably knows a little bit more about the direction of travel than the naysayers!!The market doesn't realise how compelling the story is because it's so under the radar. That's good news for those in the know who can get in before it hits the masses. FVR and Big Data are nice add ons!!We are all adult enough to make our own investment decisions. We can get excited about the prospects because there is plenty to get excited about and we have a vested interest because we OWN stock. Our first target is 73p#exponential
actybod
09/6/2019
23:02
Technology companies - valuationsOn February 13, 2018, the New York Times reported that Uber is planning an IPO. Uber's value is estimated between $48 and $70 billion, despite reporting losses over the last two years. Twitter reported a loss of $79 million before its IPO, yet it commanded a valuation of $24 billion on its IPO date in 2013. For the next four years, it continued to report losses. Similarly, Microsoft paid $26 billion for loss-making LinkedIn in 2016, and Facebook paid $19 billion for WhatsApp in 2014 when it had no revenues or profits. In contrast, industrial giant GE's stock price has declined by 44% over the last year, as news emerged about its first losses in last 50 years.Why do investors react negatively to financial statement losses for an industrial firm but disregard such losses for a digital firm?In the 2016 book The End of Accounting, NYU Stern Professor Baruch Lev claimed that over the last 100 years or so, financial reports have become less useful in capital market decisions. Recent research lets us make an even bolder claim: accounting earnings are practically irrelevant for digital companies. Our current financial accounting model cannot capture the principle value creator for digital companies: increasing return to scale on intangible investments.This becomes clear when you look at a company's two most important financial statements: the balance sheet and the income statement. For an industrial company dealing with physical assets and goods, the balance sheet presents a reasonable picture of productive assets and the income statement provides a reasonable approximation of expenses required to create shareholder value. But these statements have little salience for a digital company.Let's first look at the balance sheet. Assets reported on a balance sheet have to be physical in nature, have to be owned by the company, and be within the company's confines. However, digital companies often have assets that are intangible in nature, and many have ecosystems that extend beyond the company's boundaries. Consider Amazon's Buttons and Alexa powered Echo, Uber's cars, and Airbnb's residential properties, for example. Many digital companies have no physical products and have no inventory to report. Therefore, the balance sheets of physical and digital companies present entirely different pictures. Contrast Walmart's $160 billion of hard assets for its $300 billion valuation against Facebook's $9 billion dollars of hard assets for its $500 billion valuation.The building blocks for a digital company are research and development, brands, organizational strategy, peer and supplier networks, customer and social relationships, computerized data and software, and human capital. The economic purpose of these intangible investments is no different from that of an industrial company's factories and buildings. Yet, for the digital company, investments in its building blocks are not capitalized as assets; they are treated as expenses in calculation of profits. So the more a digital company invests in building its future, the higher its reported losses. Investors thus have no choice but to disregard earnings in their investment decisions.Our research has found that intangible investments have surpassed property, plant, and equipment as the main avenue of capital creation for U.S. companies – which further suggests that the balance sheets has become an artifact of regulatory compliance, with little or no utility to investors. The balance sheet has also become less useful for banks' lending decisions because banks rely on asset coverage to calculate their security. Curiously, companies are allowed to report purchased brands and intangibles as assets on balance sheet, creating distortions between earnings and assets of digital companies that rely on organic growth versus acquisitions.As digital companies become more prominent in the economy, and physical companies become more digital in their operations, income statements too become less meaningful in investors' decisions. In another study, we show that earnings explains only 2.4% of variation in stock returns for a 21st century company - which means that almost 98% of the variation in companies' annual stock returns are not explained by their annual earnings. Earnings also seem to matter less for CEO pay: companies are reducing profits-based cash bonuses and shifting toward stock-based CEO compensation, partly to keep opportunistic managers from cutting back on valuable investments as a way to report higher profits.The current financial accounting model fails today's companies in yet another respect. In a previous HBR article, we argued that, in contrast to physical assets that depreciate with use, intangible assets might enhance with use. Consider Facebook: its value increases as more people use its product because the benefits accrue to an existing user with the arrival of each new user. Its value growth is powered by the network in place, not by increments of operating costs. Therefore the most important aim for digital companies is to achieve market leadership, create network effects, and command a "winner-take-all" profit structure. Facebook's gross margin of 76% on its 2017 revenues of $46.5 billion illustrates this reaping of rewards - every additional dollar of revenue creates almost equivalent value for shareholders. (You can contrast this to Twitter's and Yelp's 2017 revenues of $2.4 billion and $0.8 billion, respectively, as both companies have yet to reach the winner-take-all profit stage.)Yet there is no place in financial accounting for the concept of network effects, or the increase in the value of a resource with its use. This actually implies negative depreciation expense in accounting parlance. So the fundamental idea behind the success of digital companies (the increasing returns to scale) goes against a basic tenet of financial accounting (assets depreciate with use).It's important to note that companies like professional services firms are also built on intangible assets like human capital. But accounting challenges for modern, digital companies are more severe, as they have increasing returns to scale on their idea-based platforms. For example, Google can service billions more clients with the same office just by adding to its server capacity. But for an audit firm to drastically increase clients, it would likely need more manpower and office space. Furthermore, costs of services for professional services firms, mainly wages, are matched to current revenues. So their income statements accurately reflect surplus created in that period, similar to industrial companies. But for digital companies, the bulk of the cost of building an idea-based platform is reported as an expense in its initial years, when they have little revenue. In later years, when they actually earn revenues on an established platform, they have fewer expenses to report. In both phases, the calculation of earnings does not reflect the true costs of revenues.This brings us to another question: If earnings are so meaningless, then why do investors react positively to rumors concerning a digital company turning profitable? For example, when Twitter reported its first profits, its share prices jumped 20%. The same thing happened to Yelp. One plausible reason could be that this news has an important signaling effect – that the company might have crossed its initial investment phase, that it might now break even, or that it might catapult into a trajectory where it can reap winner-takes-all rewards. This conjecture challenges our overall argument that earnings have no information; another challenge could be that initial losses of digital firms convey risks involved in purchasing their stocks.
johnma
09/6/2019
22:42
Expect double figure percentage gains over the next 5 trading days for TERN plc. As a reference point remember 11.25 pence mid price at Friday close.
ebomber
09/6/2019
21:31
Signal:STAY LONG Last Close: 2 days ago 11.25 Change: +0.4000 Percent change +3.69% Signal Update Our system’s recommendation today is to STAY LONG. The previous BUY signal was issued on 05/06/2019, 2 days ago, when the stock price was 9.65. Since then TERN.L has risen by 16.58%
kkrr11ss2
09/6/2019
21:14
An insight into the Construction Industry and specifically robotics and connectivity. One Industry only! Connectivity, rather Secure Connectivity, is going to touch or be required for almost every industrial activity performed in the future. I suspect we are well placed with Tern and all of its Investee Companies. All IMO. [Aside - Volvo is mentioned] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkRsA_v5oY4 9 Construction Tech Trends to Watch in 2019 | The B1M The B1M Published on 2 Jan 2019 From autonomous vehicles and exoskeletons - to robots, and even artificial intelligence - these are the 9 construction technology trends you must keep your eyes on in 2019. For more by The B1M subscribe now: http://ow.ly/GxW7y ================================================= https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKGGHdl3NyQ The Construction Robots are Coming | The B1M The B1M Published on 30 May 2018 We explore the roles that robots are starting to play in construction and look at how they will affect our industry in the future. For more by The B1M subscribe now: http://ow.ly/GxW7y
tullynessle
09/6/2019
21:05
Hope this jigsaw is straight forward for you to understand...Keyscalar is based on aged old crypto-technology aka Cryptosoft, has seen many guises since its inception in 2003, None of which attracted any outside investment. It was finally folded in to Device Authority, another failing product and 5 years on, Still strapped for cash, no external funding and unable to sell their product to stop the cash burn, the failure that was Cryptosoft is now Device Authority. They say you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig. Here you have it, the TERN Pig. Their only way for it to go on is to head to the bucket shops and fleece holders with more dilution, to continue funding the failure all the while dangling the carrot of big investment and fake unicorns.as recently as 8 weeks ago, the did a funding at 8.5p yet they told holders in December they were funded until the end of 2019 and Johnma, even contacted Ian Richie and he confirmed there was no funding, then 2 weeks later, after the bucket shops had a field day, the funding came in. BOD stating it was urgent funds required yet 8 weeks later, as you see from posts below...no a squeak of of the BOD about said urgent funding.They nearly got in with nCipher, but as I have prove, nCipher will now use their new Parent company, EnTRUST Datacard's IOT platform going forward, which can do everything Keyscalar can do and more.I have already proved Intel now use the ARM Pelion Platform for scale and Intel have themselves announced this. Keyscalar, is an Add on but unnecessary now that Pelion cam do it all and it's a one stop shop for IOT management.I have proved that the Sectigo IoT Manager does not use or need Keyscalar - proven correct by no other than the CTO of Sectigo IOT see here:The future of PKI in Modern EnterprisesA Talks with Tim Callan, Senior Fellow and Jason Soroko, CTO of IOT at Sectigo.https://www.brighttalk.com/webcast/17629/357259/the-future-of-pki-in-the-modern-enterpriseChief Technical Officer speaks for Sectigo and says it CLEARLY at 35:30.I have proved that Gemalto's Keysecure has nothing to do with Keyscaler and does not even mention its use or integration in posts: 152049, 152053, 152056 and 152092 i.e.https://safenet.gemalto.com/resources/data-protection/keysecure-key-management-product-brief/Gemalto Third-party Integration Support:Identity Management: Centrify Privilege Service, Lieberman SoftwareI have also proved GlobalSign does not use KeyscalarLongview partners with GlobalSign and Intrinsic ID to deliver comprehensive IoT securityHttps://www.theinternetofallthings.com/longview-partners-with-globalsign-and-intrinsic-id-to-deliver-comprehensive-iot-security/Why partner with anyone else if Keyscalar and Device Authority partnership allowed them to do everything and more according to the scum of this thread.
duxy786
09/6/2019
21:05
I expect an exciting week ahead, it's only a matter of time before we really start to move
duxy789
09/6/2019
20:55
The jigsaw is starting to fall in place here, won't be much longer for decent rises.
wardy333
09/6/2019
20:36
Andrea / 153851 The connection (image) and the dates (Jan/Feb) and the description [high quality surgical robot system / DA & nCipher webinar / "protect the transfer and receipt of critical data and surgical instructions as well as provide strong authentication and guarantee the integrity of the medical device itself"], all provide significant circumstantial evidence that Stryker is a most likely candidate. All IMO. To be honest, it doesn't really matter. If it isn't Stryker then it will be one of the others, noting "This has led to our first joint customer win with a large medical device manufacturer securing surgical robot systems.” We may find out the answer in the coming weeks? https://www.ncipher.com/about-us/newsroom/news-releases/device-authority-and-ncipher-security-announce-success-delivering Device Authority and nCipher Security announce success in delivering trust for Medical IoT January 31, 2019 Securing medical device manufacturer surgical robot systems Device Authority, a global leader in Identity and Access Management (IAM) for the Internet of Things (IoT) and Blockchain, announces its partnership and joint customer success with nCipher Security, the provider of trust, integrity and control for business critical information and applications. Continued......
tullynessle
09/6/2019
20:05
I hope they have their autonomous security sorted for this project. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/business/apple-buys-start-up-drive-ai-to-follow-driverless-car-dream-t0bbzgcjx
still waiting
09/6/2019
19:54
I suspect one automotive deal could lead to others with the need for V2X etc.
still waiting
09/6/2019
19:44
Obvs. About £20 in total. johnb5 9 Jun '19 - 18:08 - 153844 of 153851 0 7 0 You can understand why 3 to 4% market share will give DA an Uber like fare valuation.
seewhatimean
09/6/2019
19:19
Tullynissie re: Nippon Striker as they do robotic arms for surgery, could they be the unnamed end-client in the surgical robot deal of Jan 31 2019? : 'This has led to our first joint customer win with a large medical device manufacturer securing surgical robot systems.”' Https://www.ncipher.com/about-us/newsroom/news-releases/device-authority-and-ncipher-security-announce-success-delivering
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