Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
System1 Group LSE:SYS1 London Ordinary Share GB00B1GVQH21 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +2.50p +0.49% 510.00p 495.00p 525.00p 510.00p 507.50p 507.50p 190 10:02:46
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Media 18.2 4.6 23.7 21.5 62.32

System1 Group Share Discussion Threads

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11/9/2017
11:13
System 1 was is a terrible name and is almost an admission that the business is generic and subject to competition. For people who know a thing or two about marketing it seems a strange mistake; to admit that they've copied much from Daniel Kahneman. The two competing explanations for this change are hubris (likely) and that the BJU brand was not worth much. All that said, if it gets too cheap it will be bought. w1
woozle1
18/8/2017
16:07
Yes, it seems the board have lost a bit of focus, and the promotion of their book on the System 1 website (£12.99 on Amazon) feels a little autobiographical!
juzzer100
18/8/2017
14:36
JUZZER100: All too true and as having been in marketing and reseach almost all my working life I know only too well that there is a very rapid t/o of executives on both Client and Advertising agency side so that new names (re-branding) often fail to register. Management have lost my confidence.
pugugly
18/8/2017
13:11
Yep sold up on this news - took 20+% loss but experience shows taking 20% losses through a stop loss avoids much bigger losses as well as opportunity costs
essential
18/8/2017
12:17
I have followed BJU and SYS1 for a while now, and I am not sure the rebrand has been at all successful to be honest. Brainjuicer was a fantastically well known and well respected innovative market research brand. System 1 and System 2 were terms for revolutionary thinking created by Daniel Kahneman (not John Kearnon to my knowledge).Kearon read the book, and used the idea for Brainjuicer - all fine. However i see two big issues with the rebrand (yes, retrospectively, I agree):Firstly, the market research industry is very saturated, and most agencies are now also offering System 1 techniques... as well as having trusted brands themselves. By arrogantly trying to grab the generic term, System 1, for himself I feel Kearon has managed to destroy his company's unique brand identity. It's a bit like Virgin Atlantic rebranding themselves Flights Ltd. Secondly, Kearon also assumes that everyone who uses Market Research knows and loves what Brainjuicer does/did and would happily seek them out with their new name. However for those who are looking for an MR agency and don't know Brainjuicer or do and are simply not aware of the rebrand, the name Brainjuicer sounds innovative and fun but System1, to be honest, sounds a bit like a dull old technology company!It's all been a surprising exercise for an advertising/ branding man!It's all in today's RNS: "This is mainly due to non-recurrence of large one-off Innovation projects as a result of some significant client spending deferrals and a more competitive market". All IMHO, but lots of brain juicing required I reckon!
juzzer100
18/8/2017
11:45
Do they still have net cash on the books?
capercaillie
18/8/2017
11:00
Much as I have been a big fan of this business and all it has achieved it does look like they have lost direction.Can see this dropping back a lot further from here
longshanks
18/8/2017
10:37
p/e If ADVFN figures correct still seems far too high (imo) for a people business at high risk of changes and fashions in 3rd party marketing spends.
pugugly
18/8/2017
09:07
Says no visibility but then gives a forecast - huh?
tsmith2
18/8/2017
08:29
If you have say 1k share perhaps, but any sizeable investor will move the market price when they sell. And illiquid movements are more a matter of luck - someone buys, price goes up; so you can't judge when to sell based on an expected market reaction when there is no market.
silverfern
18/8/2017
08:20
Illiquidity works both ways - it has benefited shareholders in this one on the way up.
pj0077
18/8/2017
08:11
Why not to buy illiquid shares- £130k share traded, £20m off share price. Mind you, ex-growth in the current climate is not a good sign.
silverfern
18/8/2017
07:53
What a slowdown in gross profit growthWAS +28%NOW -6 to -11%The wheels have fallen off this one.
pj0077
18/8/2017
07:22
oh boy is this going down today.....
markie7
15/6/2017
09:24
I don't know that there is a problem with hiring big names in the US: there will be a cost of hire, true, but the benefits should be substantial if the current growth rates are maintained/accelerated.
longshanks
15/6/2017
09:03
Two negative factors behind share price fall IMO. 1. Trading in Q1 slower than expected and 2. Hiring senior people in the US Both have negative effect impact on eps
ramridge
15/6/2017
08:19
Oh dear. Yes the market has latched on to that snippet, coupled I guess with the loss of a senior executive.
longshanks
15/6/2017
08:03
"Trading during Q1 of our new financial year has been a little slower than we expected, but we remain confident of making further progress over the year as a whole"
bruceylegs
15/6/2017
07:32
Dividend up 80%!!....and a special dividend of 26.1p on top.I haven't digested the full results but am saddened that Alex Bachelor is leaving as he has had a very positive influence on the business.Overall though, these cash distributions are indicative of just how healthy the business must be.
longshanks
06/6/2017
20:30
The shares are somewhat illiquid and can move significantly on small volumes. I also think the recent weakness is down to profit taking after a storming run. I sold some in February around £7.30 and a month or so ago at £8.60 only to see the share price rise above £10. The recent update was positive and I expect the forthcoming results to be equally so. Currently trading at around 20 times next year's earnings, not cheap, but for a fairly unique company with cash on the balance sheet worth holding. Hopefully I am right?
jonno53
06/6/2017
12:10
Good opportunity given nothing's changed (as far as we're aware); Quality and Momentum scores on Stockopedia are high. from a technical POV, possible parallel with the recent drop/rise that GAW went through last week.
bruceylegs
06/6/2017
10:55
a bit volatile to say the least ! m
maurillac
05/6/2017
17:25
Shares have been taking a bit of a panning in the last week or so.May be linked to recent weakness in USD but possibly just profit taking.Results due out in 10 days with news, possibly of yet another special dividend.
longshanks
16/5/2017
18:21
Last para - lol
panic investor
16/5/2017
17:16
It looks like SYS1 have teamed up with the nutters at hTTps://www.scifutures.com/ (headed by Ari Popper, previously of BrainJuicer) to develop and test innovative customer shopping experiences using virtual reality. Could be an interesting and promising development. https://www.forbes.com/sites/larrymyler/2017/04/12/top-5-booming-industries-for-b2b-in-2017/#16112eb75729 P.S. I note that they haven't put up any comment on the UK general election. Still time though for them to predict a landslide win for JC and his apostles!!!
longshanks
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