Symphony Environmental T... Share Discussion Threads

[maccamcd] 15/1/2018 13:41

why are some people so negative.. surely its healthy for the soul to forgive and look at the stock through rose tinted glasses, whilst listening to Michael Jackson singing 'Can you feel it'..

One's day would be much more fun in the retirement home with a happy feeling looking at the stock price going up.

[mattjos] 15/1/2018 11:37

hazl & others. As I have already mentioned, there are 2-3 posters here who are very negative the company (at least one is an ex-employee with an axe to grind) & will always only ever make negative comments.

They would rather lose money personally than see the company succeed, such are their emotional states. They are best ignored as they are most unlikely to change

[hazl] 15/1/2018 11:33

Anyway the share-price recentlyy tells its own story....it's been steadily going up!

[hazl] 15/1/2018 11:31

Amazing !
You have been writing negatives since at least early 2010.
At that point I got bored and didn't look back any further.
I seriously wonder if you are a paid deramper!

What else can it be??

IMO

[hazl] 15/1/2018 11:27

Again sometimes you have to wait for an idea to catch on.

We all know the politicians have been dragging their heels about helping the environment..

They have time and time again encouraged the consumer,in rems of the general public to do thei bit and not encouraged the food industry to get their act together or produce comprehensive legislation on recycling or bio-degenerables.

I remember trying for a full six months to get people interested in DOTD.
The rest is history.

[mattjos] 15/1/2018 10:37

poftie ... always willing to listen to the bear case but, if you are intent in focussing so much on their UK sales & ignoring their overseas earnings (now being translated back against a weaker GB£), you are completely missing the bigger picture. So too if you ignore the product development in recent years.

You and others remain deeply negative about the company, hence why I have managed to keep buying shares so cheaply.
You cannot argue the cash and the figures, no matter how much you are emotionally anchored to the negatives.

[top tips] 15/1/2018 10:37

Been a great 12 months and should continue. Waiting for the next breakout.

[poftie] 15/1/2018 10:25

Time for a reality check. Mattjos - all your comments need to be read in the context of your 'singing the company song' on this board since 2010 and, whist your enthusiasm is apparent, your motives are not. It's easy to say that innocent newbies should ignore the past and that things now will be different. Sadly, I have watched a steady stream of people come and go each time the hype has evaporated.
So far as the current UK publicity is concerned, bear in mind that over a period in excess of 15 years SYM, a British company, based in the UK, with an ex MP and an ex MEP on the Board, has achieved a grand total UK turnover of not much over a paltry £250k per annum. It would be reckless not to think carefully about why this is the case and whether it is reversible.
As for the online petition mentioned above, bear in mind that SYM's product is NOT bio-degradable so they would not benefit even in the unlikely event of Mr Gove being influenced by it. In a similar vein do not be fooled, the Oxy Degradable Association is just a publicity front created by SYM with no members other than people linked to SYM and anyone who has done their homework will know this.
So far as Patents are concerned, the argument for not having them is a good one BUT, even if this technology did take off you have to factor in the ease with which plastics processors could copy this technology which has been around for years.
Nobody likes to accept they may be wrong but sometimes you do need to do your homework and consider that possibility.

[simpletonremover] 15/1/2018 10:07

Another good point about SYM, Matt.

There's only 152 million shares in issue, so when demand hits .... you know the rest. :O)

[mattjos] 15/1/2018 09:59

I doubt they need my input hazl .. they've been doing this long enough to know the market dynamics and anyway, the distributors will be feeding them the necessary market intelligence and telling them how they can get the sales increasing etc.

That's another good thing about the business model .. they have a large number of distributors selling for them across the world & through them will 'feel' the market in various territories.

Lovely C&H pattern now developing on the chart. Target 24p minimum

[hazl] 15/1/2018 09:55

Perhaps you ought to tell them your suggestions mattjos?

[mattjos] 15/1/2018 09:46

I believe we are not too far off other countries adopting our technology.

If you think about Saudi Arabia .. there will be plastic manufacturers both inside and outside Saudi who are supplying the domestic market.
They will not particularly wish to have to keep switching batches according to whom they are supplying and whether or not the plastic concerned is due to go Saudi market or elsewhere.

If SYM are cute about this, they will have a sliding price scale offered the users, based on volumes purchased.
This will add an extra incentive for the plastics manufacturer to talk with their customer base and say; "Look, we are already manufacturing the plastics for the Saudi market with the oxy-biodegradable additive (as mandated by Saudi). Why don't you let us put it in your plastics and then your product can always be suitable for the Saudi market?"

Last thing a food manufacturer wishes is for the possibility of an order from a customer being lost just because their packaging will prevent its sale in a territory.

The SYM snowball is firmly rolling now and gathering both pace and size.

We have legislation driving adoption in some territories and neighbouring territories will have market/commercial forces also now driving adoption.

This should quickly ramp the SYM sales line but, I don't see overheads needing to increase. No impact on personnel if Orders received are for 100Kg or batch or 1,000Kg of batch.

[hybrasil] 15/1/2018 09:16

Arthur Lame Stocks

I bought here too for more or less the same reasons as you did.

I first noticed it on the thread 'shares to double in 2018' and I see you are there as well.

So far so good!

[hazl] 15/1/2018 08:14

SR Indeed thanks for posting.

[simpletonremover] 14/1/2018 22:48

Hazl

Interesting from LSE:

Heading toward 500,000 signatures.

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hxxps://www.change.org/p/the-rt-hon-michael-gove-top-10-uk-retailers-to-switch-to-biodegradable-packaging-materials-now?utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=link&recruiter=31086219

420,000 signatures .... looking popular

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This stock could have some serious legs, if producers end up having no choice but to use/consult SYM.

[hazl] 14/1/2018 18:59

Why are you concerned ....have you shares?

Surely this is the best they have been for ages?
Not only is the share price improved and the charts seem to indicate more to come,as well as enthusiasm from various analysts dictates but also we have the political climate more on our side.

What's not to like?
LET'S SAVE OUR WILD-LIFE!

[maccamcd] 14/1/2018 18:37

Swiss paul. Slightly understand the frustration. But I do think they are feeling more confident about doing PR now and not getting egg in face for failure.Can you feel it?Can you feel it?Can you feel it?If you look aroundThe whole world is comin' together now, babyCan you feel it?Can you feel it?Can you feel it?Feel it in the airThe wind is taking it everywhere, yeahCan you feel it?Can you feel it?Can you feel it?All the colors of the world should beLovin' each other wholeheartedlyYes, it's all rightTake my message to your brotherAnd tell him twiceSpread the word and try to teach the manWho's hating his brotherWhen hate won't do, ooh'Cause we're all the same, yesThe blood inside of me is inside of youNow, tell meCan you feel it?Can you feel it?Can you feel it?Can you feel it?Can you feel it?Can you feel it?Yeah, yeah, ohEvery breath you takeIs someone's death in another place(Another place, another place, another place)Every healthy smileIs hunger and strife to another child(Another child, another child)But the stars do shineIn promising salvation, is near this time(Near this time)Can you feel it now?So brothers and sisters show me know howNow, tell meCan you feel it?Can you feel it?Can you feel it?Yeah yeah ohCan you feel it?Can you feel it?Can you feel it?All the children in the world should beLoving each other wholeheartedlyYes, it's all rightTake my message to your brotherAnd tell him twiceTake the news to the marching menWho are killing their brothersWhen death won't do, oohYes, we're all the sameYes, the blood inside of me is inside of youNow, tell meCan you feel it?Can you feel it?Can you feel it?Can you feel it?Can you feel it?Can you feel it?

[swiss paul] 14/1/2018 18:11

Hazl and Matt (yes please filter me) - so what your saying is that the PR co has done a brilliant job and that your happy with their performance.

[hazl] 14/1/2018 13:54

same story picked up by SHARES M

[hazl] 14/1/2018 08:02

It's a complicated business because plastics are not going to go away anytime soon.
All the time you have things like lego,for example,a durable product, sweeping internationally as a trend,then the problem will have to be tackled in several different ways.

Sure it would be better getting rid of plastic bags altogether,but yesterday,there was an emphasis on recycling cups.

That is why we need some directive from the Government to address these different scenarios.
It is China's unwillingness to take our shed-loads of waste that has prompted this recent interest and you could argue might force them to think more seriously about it.

This is at least a step in the right direction.

[glavey] 14/1/2018 00:00

Whilst not belittling d2w product and its usefulness, is it not likely that the momentum will be in the reduction of plastics use as a visible display of progress, along with a further recycling push, rather than in the concepts and arguments surrounding degredation techniques.

By example, didn't the 5p bag tax effectively slash one of the d2w applications.

[simpletonremover] 13/1/2018 13:44

Hazl

No problem. Interesting to watch.

People should email Ocean Rescue at Sky and encourage them to put Gove under their media headlights and publicly embarrass him until he consults with and employs the services of SYM. The solution to the plastic problem already exists in the form of SYM, so what's not to like ?

'Little or no extra cost' for manufacturers to do it. Production objection already removed. :o)

[cottoner] 12/1/2018 21:54

A reminder of what SYM provide.

Plastic bag degrading with Symphony's d2w.mp4

This video shows how a bag degrades over time, thanks to the unique additive d2w, owned by Symphony. d2w turns ordinary plastic at the end of its useful life into a material with a completely different molecular structure. At that stage it is no longer a plastic and has become a material which can be bio-assimilated in the open environment in the same way as a leaf.

[mattjos] 12/1/2018 21:46

best filtered ... no clue

[hazl] 12/1/2018 21:22

No pleasing some people.