Strat Aero Share Discussion Threads

[pilotov] 14/3/2017 15:33

For months Dennis has been saying that none of us were shareholders - now he is saying he is 99% sure we have all lost here! Which is it Dennis?

[andy] 14/3/2017 15:17

Dennis,

"Well Andy, Usual response, The difficulties we all know about have had their effect and the restructuring has come at a cost, Long term shareholders and more recent have not had a pleasant experience,"

Finally, an admission all has not gone well!



"What you post however does and I point out where you are misleading and wayward, Of course, I have been correct when doing so."

Wow, that is simply untrue Dennis, when asked, you have never been able to point out any post of mine that was "misleading", ever!

It's not enough to make the allegation, you have to post the proof!


"I am 99% sure though that you have all lost here and can't handle it"

You ought to be on the stage!



"Thing is I don't cheat, lie or invent other ID's to gain any advantage, Do I?"

And who exactly are you accusing of doing that?



"Had there been enough confidence and holders had held raising would be at a higher premium, Yes?"

No, the placing was done at a discount, not a premium!

You mentioned a placing at a premium when the price was around 0.55p, and I said at the time it will be done at a significant discount, and indeed it was!


"Currently we are looking to be in profit this year and possibly an opportunity for those who have lost to recoup?"

Given the dilution, 450%, and potential dilution of another 50%, I don't think anyone holding from higher prices will be recouping anytime soon, IMO.

[bygdennis] 14/3/2017 15:07

Well Andy, Usual response, The difficulties we all know about have had their effect and the restructuring has come at a cost, Long term shareholders and more recent have not had a pleasant experience,
It is something we all know and whatever we must cope the best way we can, Whatever is in my posts about you and the group doesn't mean a thing, What you post however does and I point out where you are misleading and wayward, Of course, I have been correct when doing so.
I am 99% sure though that you have all lost here and can't handle it, Thing is Aero have remained vulnerable and until confidence is fully restored will be treated with caution, This has been the way of it up until now. No one needs me or anyone else to explain, Do they?
Criticising me is a laugh, You are the same but the other way, Thing is I don't cheat, lie or invent other ID's to gain any advantage, Do I?
Andy, I post current, Get it!!, All about the present what has been on offer and update as progress is made, either way up or down hw things stand is how it is.
Now it seems at last there is no where to go but up given the current news received, Not how you can make it sound, Is this correct?
At this time you're all moaning because Aero have made a very good appointment in line with a good business model, What are you complaining about? you expected them to go for a cheap option and can only gripe about what it might cost? It's all about what comes in that matters, Isn't it?
Positive news is just that and much has been positive except your posting and the need to raise funds, However! this has had to be done on the cheap, Funny old world, but that's how it is, Had there been enough confidence and holders had held raising would be at a higher premium, Yes?
Anyway, no need to gripe on about anything is there? Currently we are looking to be in profit this year and possibly an opportunity for those who have lost to recoup? Let's hope so, Take a good look at the content in my last post, Not exactly unrealistic is it at the current share price ?

[andy] 14/3/2017 14:05

Dennis,

As usual many words saying absolutely nothing of substance, you have made this an art form!

What you really want to say I think is that you bought in at least 4.5p, it is now 0.095p, and you cannot see how this has occurred.

Not only that, you are the only poster (except Yorgi) that only ever sees good in the company, they never make a mistake and they always do everything well! Yet the share price has fallen 97% in a year! How does that work?

Most people would be really annoyed about a 97% loss, yet you're deliriously happy about it!

And the dilution of 450% doesn't seem to concern you either! Not even the 1.2 BILLION warrants that would dilute even further seem to concern you either!

Whatever you're on, you ought to bottle it and sell it...................

[kemche] 14/3/2017 13:01

Wait for the accounts - I suspect they will be an absolute hoot.

[the stigologist] 14/3/2017 12:59

So we've gone from having Management who knew their businesses inside out to new management who don't know those businesses... I think with such small businesses the original Management are usually not just Management they are hands on with sales/customer relationships/talking to suppliers/project management etc etc

AERO in last year have lost Tony Dreary, Perran Bonner and Hulsey Smith that is a huge gap in the accumulated human capital of the company

I can only see massive problems coming operationally here.

Naive mug punters assume that if a Company's financial or legal issues are 'settled' then the stock is free to fly but the Company have been very very quiet on operations despite trumpeting the supposed financial and legal 'wins' which have seen share price destroyed by 99%

[kemche] 14/3/2017 12:59

pilotov,
As the price goes lower our BygD becomes even more befuddled - if that was ever possible. WTF does it all mean?

[pilotov] 14/3/2017 12:56

Can anyone explain what bygdennis means? On second thoughts, don't bother.

[the stigologist] 14/3/2017 12:54

Wonder when the next dilutive discounted placing will be?

[bygdennis] 14/3/2017 12:48

Gearing up nicely and could all fall into place quite soon as is being speculated about.
After the recent high profile appointment that fits well with the progress made in building up bread and butter income into the cost effective commercial side and explains the move into profit in the coming year as the management has informed us.
After many difficulties that bought about the lack of confidence and lowering SP's that obviously affected the fund raising needed as we prepared to get up and running with some good gains made along the way in training and survey which bodes well as momentum builds to cope with the effects this fast moving sector offers those who can tick the right boxes as this technology takes it's place in the world.
Over the last few months our hostile group have maintained thier high profile presence on these BB's but have offered no useful information in keeping with what has come about, As usual merely making comments about what is common knowledge with a biased and inconsiderate negative view.
It seems we are now in a pretty good place, Moving on with finance available to cope with the demands of businesses and governments not interested on on doing things on the cheap as our group obviously seems to be dismayed about and can't offer a negative opinion except to speculate about costs, quality as we know always pays for itself, The best is the best no matter what you try to make is seem.
At this time there doesn't appear to be much anyone can say, all anyone can do is research to where we are and take their position and see what progress the news brings,
It appears financial issues have been addressed and a positive approach to maintain high standards, by the year end we could be in a very different place.

[yorgi] 13/3/2017 16:25

No discount on a small buy of only 300k !

[andy] 13/3/2017 16:14

Yorgi,

"should" being the operative word, the company have gone back to investors so many times for more money, and still failed to repay the "short term loan" they took out last year!

[yorgi] 13/3/2017 16:03

We should now be fully funded to give our BOD the funds to implement their business plan. With Geocurve doing well according previous update RNS then as long as our BOD can show fruits from the changes they are making then there is ample room for significant upside from our present market cap of under £1.9m.

[yorgi] 13/3/2017 15:57

MMs eased bids marginally on 1m now 0.988p and still 0.985p on 5m still the same. As far as I can see they are unsure what to do as easing the offer any brings in buyers and at times it can be very hard if to get an online offer.

[the stigologist] 13/3/2017 15:11

There are some new traders who reckon they can make money once the placing overhang has washed through and they expect the shares to 'fly' 50% to 0.15 which is of course small comfort to genuine long term shareholders. However traders live for that sort of move even if they can only scalp a part of it due to spread etc and the real winners will be the corrupt conmen pump and dump merchants who should be/probably are insiders and thus should not be talking about or trading the stock. Such muppets if they get caught definitely will go inside.

However to dampen the traders parade i'd point out the 'real' placing price was c. 0.08/0.09 so trying to key off the 0.10p level is a naive beginner move

A 50% 'rise' from 0.08 to 0.12 doesn't seem all that good if you time it wrong

After trying everything else to change fortunes (getting rid of Management , changing business focus, paying pump and dump merchants to ramp your stock) I suspect the only gambit left here is to change the name of the Company and the ticker. Can I suggest the ticker PIGS ? Then we can make puns about 'PIGS might fly'

[kemche] 13/3/2017 14:01

Is it because it is going to fly?

[tradermick1] 13/3/2017 14:00

Andy

Care to engage why on a 0.09-0.1p spread the mm's are bidding the offer price to
get stock back.

[yorgi] 13/3/2017 13:53

MMs are playing AERO very tight !

[andy] 13/3/2017 13:45

After the recent additional 1.6 BILLION shares that were created here, micro analysis of every single trade seems a but pointless.

They are PI size trades, not institutional.

[tradermick1] 13/3/2017 13:45

Bidding the offer price to get stock.

They have dropped the offer back to 0.1p but that is also the real sell price, well 0.999p which is as close to it as possible.

[andy] 13/3/2017 13:39

wow,

with 2 billion or so shares in issue, they are such small numbers.

[yorgi] 13/3/2017 13:33

Listed prices incorrect again....MMs bidding 0.99p on 1m and 0.985p 5m.

[andy] 13/3/2017 12:11

yorgi,

Maybe that guy at Air Communications could write one? :-)

[yorgi] 13/3/2017 11:46

With the "right" RNS that the market see very clearly that progress is underway we could easily see a sharp rise from here in my view.

[yorgi] 13/3/2017 11:43

A tick up this morning 😊 Not surprising in my opinion often difficult to get an offer to buy online.

Repeating what I posted last week, our new appointment has not been taken on board by the market.