Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Stm Grp. LSE:STM London Ordinary Share IM00B1S9KY98 ORD 0.1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +2.50p +5.68% 46.50p 45.00p 48.00p 46.50p 44.00p 44.00p 22,640 13:34:34
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
General Financial 17.4 2.8 4.0 11.7 27.62

Stm Grp. Share Discussion Threads

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
17/1/2018
12:06
phew that news is a relief, the share price had gone down a lot in recent weeks
smithie6
11/12/2017
16:36
(to whoever just bed and sipp/isa'd 15000 shares imho you got screwed on the spread ~£500 cost via the spread whereas you should expect to pay the MM just £50-100 for a bed and sipp deal. (noting it is just a paper exercise...the MM has g'tee from your broker that there is no nett trade..it is a sell followed by a buy back of same shares....so the MM has 0 risk...so it is cheap) (imo you should complain..& ask trades to be re-booked at smaller margin)
smithie6
11/12/2017
10:37
price bounce back continues sizeable buy reported around 45p on 6 month chart it is a sharp bounce back....although it didnt feel like it on an hourly basis !
smithie6
07/12/2017
20:25
LSE:XAF Pensions & similar stuff cap. value 230M !! STM would be a useful add-on for them or many companies. SAGA is another. But I hope STM stays indep. & keeps on growing as it has been.
smithie6
07/12/2017
10:53
nice to see STM rising in last 3 days but surprised to see it move so much with such tiny value of trades....if LSE website trades are correct. .or maybe there are more trades via what was ISDX exchange ? (on LSE a post thinks regulator might be wrong & trying to save face..(recalling that STM compliance officer submitted the relevant papers as required, 2 years before & regulator took no action..time will tell) ---- update a few more trades booked in incl. 1 sizeable one.
smithie6
04/12/2017
09:55
Aarron Banks you probably know he's a 'big fish'....which infers he's fairly successful investor and/or business pers. & hence astute also a stakeholder in other financial cos. ( had a % here, cant recall if still has or what %) (Brexit Im expecting STM to probably move registered HQ address to Malta..but not moving any staff....to avoid any Brexit concerns about Gib. but maybe they wait a while to see whether it is needed or not)
smithie6
04/12/2017
09:50
last point that STM could be prey for another co. I was thinking the same possibility but I assume that the dirs (largish % of co.) would fight tooth and nails against that.... and Miton would be an important hldr...I think they have 20-30%..but 20-30% is not 100%... if STM was bought by Miton or AN OTHER (is it De Vere that STM has worked with in the past, another financial co.. & A.J.Bell ltd would be a logical buyer imo ( could then offer all of STM products to their massive SIPP client list, I think they are phps biggest UK SIPP co.) ...any buyer would have to pay a premium :-) but Id prefer that STM keeps growing as it has been, as listed co., an on-going annual growth compounding over 10-20yrs is miles better than just a one-off gain imo --- co. RNS says that STM reported that client info to regulators who did nothing..till now.. so seems surprising that going to court but I guess regulator thinks STM should have done more... maybe things like Panama papers & Paradise papers have put a EU spotlight on 'tax havens' & maybe this regulator action is partly promo to EU ??...& phps linked to Brexit negiotations as you posted... (how much should a fin. co. investigate how a client generated their money, I dont know. STM is big co. in QROPS etc & been around for years....Im sure they are careful to generally comply with the rules...although every co. will limit their detective work since it costs time/money & limited staff....& annual profit per client doesnt fund endless client investigation.... (KYC. most fin. cos. accept the client's story as long as seems reasonable..& some proof provided...('Im rich due to big salary or selling this co. or this asset...as shown on these official papers..'....the finance co. is imo not expected to talk to the buyer to check the papers are true or write to a Property Registry office for confirmation)
smithie6
03/12/2017
21:31
I looked at the article The only thing I learnt from it was that STM and Alan Kentish had a relationship with Aaron Banks who contributed significantly to the Brexit side in the EU referendum last year. Nothing new for me apart from that - mainly regurgitated what has been disclosed in the RNS re Gibraltar. Would not be surprised if this is part of the dirty politics going on between EU/Remain and Brexit. There is still a lot of uncertainty for shareholders - if it were not the price may be north of 70pence. The business may be profitable but growth is unlikely to resume until all the regulatory issues have been resolved. STM strategy is to consolidate with other companies. It is now possible that instead of being prey, STM could be a victim
camerongd53
03/12/2017
14:54
is it positive or negative for STM shareholders & the share price ??! --- 3 visits to 35p over last 18-24 months....then rose to 55p area.. Im hoping 35p will again turn out to be a low
smithie6
30/11/2017
22:13
Article re. Alan Kentish on the first page of Private Eye this week (1st-14th Dec edition).
philw2009
16/11/2017
14:52
sp responded nicely to news that inserting inspectors has been suspended until at least the appeal is heard on 20th Jan & mentions collaboration in reality Im sure the Gib. financial ctrl syst will advise what they want STM subsidiary to alter or add to existing procedures & the subsidiary co. will do it.. & everyone happy & fin. regltr will then largely ignore STM hopefully & business as usual, that's my hope/guess anyway --- 50p here we come
smithie6
15/11/2017
22:51
AOW, agree. InvestorsChampion normally aren't daft, but they seem to have got a bit confused on that one, and should probably have spoken to the company for clarification.
briangeeee
15/11/2017
22:31
re: www.investorschampion.com Their accounting read on QROPS is wrong - its not "quite generous" - in fact there is a 50% deferral of revenues - FOR THAT YEAR. That's actually conservative and a quirk of IFRS accounting. Their read on the life business is plain stupid and shows lack of thoroughness. The Life business is a wash. STM makes an AUM fee of a 1% or so. The technical account shows clearly that that flows net out (except for a small surplus). These are no secrets. You can call IR, speak to a broker analyst and figure this out. ==> amateurs
actofwill
15/11/2017
21:57
Smithie6. Here are the expense ratio numbers as quoted. hTTp://www.investorschampion.com/channel/blog/stm-group-arrests-appointment-of-inspectors-you-couldnt-make-it-up-but-what. I have always held the opinion that this stock is uninvestable.
yupawiese2010
15/11/2017
10:45
anyone understand the RNS of 13th Nov "Director declaration" it says that A.K. released without charge but then mentions an appeal, as if there are charges vs A.K. & that judicial process continues but without being remanded in prison. Or is judicial process just against STM subsidiary that allegedly didnt do enough checks on source of 1 client's money while STM says it provided the correct forms to Gib system which then did nothing & had 2 wk limit to respond. (surely if the police or a tax office decides that a client's money is illegal or partly illegal or missing a tax payment then surely the police & tax office have the ability to freeze any disputed money while the state then does a judicial process for it to be transferred to them or AN Other, with STM surely being just a co-operating bystander any views ? ??
smithie6
15/11/2017
10:40
what is the expense ratio number & how does it compare with what you think wld be more normal ? (is expense ratio high due to paying commission to intermediaries ?)
smithie6
15/11/2017
10:33
We commented previously how offshore financial services businesses rarely make happy stock market investments and STM Group appears to be supporting that assessment perfectly. But it’s STM's Life business that looks really questionable to us, with an expense ratio that beggars belief!
investorschampion
14/11/2017
19:19
always risks...but my own guess on risk/reward is that my adds today around 42p were a good deal. one sniff of stability or good news & this is back at 50-55p imo. but of course, risks of future news being negative....par for the course when news creates a sizeable % fall
smithie6
14/11/2017
14:41
I bt. some more. since looks very cheap fingers crossed the news in the future gets better & not worse !!
smithie6
14/11/2017
13:37
uf...and there was me hoping for good news !
smithie6
14/11/2017
13:24
Surprised not more of a rush to get out. If you were a client of STM and you saw the headlines I don't think I would be keen to hang around. Obviously not as clean as you would like to hope they were.
horndean eagle
14/11/2017
12:39
Service is restored!
jaykaytee
14/11/2017
12:33
So back trading and several RNS's issued explaining position from STM's point of view. Very hard/impossible to interpret/value so not surprised at 30% hit.
sailing john
14/11/2017
12:32
Thinking about it; who's now going to buy any kind of financial product from a company being investigated by the Gibraltar Police? So you're then left with around £10m of liquid assets (i.e. presuming no profit) versus a valuation of almost £21m at 35p - not quite one for me to buy more of but it all depends how optimistic you are about future earnings.
boystown
14/11/2017
09:55
Not easy to release an RNS from behind iron bars!
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