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[tole] 10/6/2020 13:11

Doesn't want to stay down.. got legs to break higher imv

[buywell3] 09/6/2020 08:43

Agreed

So buywell positively calls this to 230p in a next market down leg caused by America having an explosion of Covid cases as of now getting worse into end of july with 5M cases or close to IMO

dyor

[action] 08/6/2020 20:53

It pays lot more in this world if you have positive outlook for the future rather negative outlook.

[ball deap] 02/6/2020 20:42

Covid19 is a hoax, look at the US riots if it were real all the governors and mayors like Debasio wouldn't encourage people to be on the street.Basically Covid19 is a big money spinner and fake made to scare the weak minded , get your money back into the market.

[mike24] 01/6/2020 18:07

the riots in the US have played into China's hand
making it easier to control HK, just need a few hundred to pile
into London prop market, as they did in 87

Stan looks a cracking buy at this level
PRU looking good as well
but WHY is gold being plugged ? when double digit share
rises poss, over next couple months
edit, HSBC HK 9.5bn V Europe 3.7bn loss
but 1% in the US own 37% of the countries wealth,
capitalism generates inequality, so is this the real reason
for possibly more riots when things get really tough?
nai

[buywell3] 30/5/2020 08:41

Hong Kongers , possible 300,000 of them want to get out

England would do well to welcome the majority along with very careful screening


============ Why buywell has had a downer on Financials for years ============


The amount of monies pumped into holding up economies since the credit crunch have rung alarms.

Most banks have not got enough cash to cope with the Covid world depression which many seasoned veterans think will be akin to the last Great Depression , which lasted years and dropped markets circa 90 per cent.

Most countries won't have enough cash resources and even most major financial institutions such as the EMF for example.

We have just seen the US Treasury give the FED over $425 Billion . It did so in the knowledge that the FED would leverage this money by 10 to $ 4 Trillion to keep the USA lights on.

Talk of a stimulus does not cut it with buywell

This money is a sticking plaster.



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But ALL countries in the world will be wanting money , and the only Institution which is funded to cope is the IMF with a $ 1 Trillion pot.

But even that has only so much and then the well runs dry

A $ Trillion goes nowhere these days , so what happens then ?




Well last chance saloon will be SDR's issued by the IMF AND they are currently being discussed with the intention of using them in quantity.

They have been used before

buywell googled SDR's will they save the world ?

Having looked into them and their creation and value , buywell thinks not

Just not enough to go around in an over populated world to save everybody.

And their value like paper printed money is an illusion based upon a promise.



also read



IMO dyor

[cerrito] 29/5/2020 23:46

Just posted this on the hsba site but the same comment applies to STAN and has put me off increasing my STAN holding.
quote

The following is the headline
HSBC told not to take ‘unique Hong Kong privileges’ for granted
Sabre rattling no doubt but does not giver me courage to increase my holding even at this depressed price.

[action] 26/5/2020 16:28

MMplaying same game keeping this one down when it should be above 400p+

[buywell3] 21/5/2020 22:18

Negative Interest Rates are being talked about



Rather negative interest rates buywell would favor giving every UK passport holder and UK taxpayer with over 10 years of payments record

10,000 pounds per person

Those with 5 years to 10 years 5,000 pounds per person

Called Helicopter Money , this is likely to be done in several countries IMO

The Helicopter Money could be drip fed into peoples bank accounts over 10 payments

Those without a bank account would have to contavt a Government Claim Office to give ID info

Otherwise the monies could be splashed on daft Stock Market purchases or sent abroad to help nefarious enterprises

boris' standing with the people would rise and the Tory party be a shoo in next time round especially if this was timed with an end to EU negotiations plus a hard trade deal announcement together with a NO 39 Billion EU payment for no deal progress and an announcement that this 39 BILLION WOULD BE SPENT ON NHS NEW ICU UNITS STAFF INCREASES AND EQUIPMENT

IMO dyor

[buywell3] 21/5/2020 00:09

Cheaper still when this happens IMO


------- buywell says a second wave is coming and here is why -------




WHO just reports largest 24hr Covid-19 cases since the start of the virus

106,000

and countries around the world ease lockdowns as 5M cases gets hit before this Sat



Coronavirus: Germany infection rate rises as lockdown eases ...www.bbc.com › news › world-europe-52604676
May 10, 2020 - Coronavirus: Germany infection rate rises as lockdown eases ... reimpose restrictions if cases rise above a threshold of 50 per 100,000 people.


Coronavirus: Putin eases Russian lockdown as cases rise ...www.bbc.com › news › world-europe-52620015
Russian President Vladimir Putin says that from Tuesday the nationwide coronavirus lockdown will be eased and businesses will go back to work


Indonesia eases lockdown while virus cases rise - Asia Timesasiatimes.com › 2020/05 › indonesia-eases-lockdown-w...
5 days ago - Indonesia eases lockdown while virus cases rise. Government plans gradual five-phase easing of lockdown measures to save the economy


Singapore eases COVID-19 lockdown as cases risewww.aa.com.tr › asia-pacific › singapore-eases-covid-1...
May 12, 2020 - Barbershops resume operations as new cases emerge, most of whom are migrant workers - Anadolu Agency.


China reports possible new wave of Covid-19 cases; Greece ...www.theguardian.com › world › live › may › coronaviru...
May 10, 2020 - Germany sees infections rise again after easing lockdown; France to end lockdown on Monday; White House advisers self-quarantine.

Emerging countries lift lockdowns despite Covid-19 cases surge
Financial Times-18 hours ago
Brazil, India and Indonesia are leading a group of middle and low-income economies that have begun to ease lockdowns despite rising ...

Every US state eases lockdowns as Trump slams China for ...
9News-1 hour ago
As of Tuesday, at least 17 states had registered an upward trend in average daily cases -- a rise of at least 10 per cent - over the previous ...

Coronavirus Spike in Russia, Brazil, India and Others Show ...
TIME-19 May 2020
Cases are still rising across Africa, where all 54 nations have seen ... major spikes in infections as the country's lockdown rules have eased.

Europeans savour lockdown easing, but elsewhere virus ...
FRANCE 24-18 May 2020
Europeans savour lockdown easing, but elsewhere virus cases surge ... Despite the optimism in some European countries, rising infection and fatality ... Catholics attended mass in eastern France on Sunday for the first time in ...



Markets are IMO now in La La Land and reality is about to bite them in the @rse


IMO dyor

[azalea] 16/5/2020 08:14

STAN hits its all time low on Friday. Cheap!

[qantas] 15/5/2020 07:48

Some good news.

[buywell3] 14/5/2020 00:28

Keep watching

UK GDP to drop 25% in the current quarter

[azalea] 13/5/2020 09:51

On my watch list

[qantas] 06/5/2020 22:27

Italy claims to have 'first vaccine in the world' to kill coronavirus Https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8293211/Italian-researchers-claim-vaccine-world-kill-coronavirus.html?ito=native_share_article-masthead

[action] 04/5/2020 09:30

Let us see how low this one goes due to new trade war being tauted by USA and China.

[action] 01/5/2020 08:15

Still up when all other banks are down should retrace recent lows again.

[velvetide] 29/4/2020 08:18

nice call, 4.09 will hopefully be the low today

[action] 28/4/2020 13:26

Compare to other uk bank prices today ,this should be appx 410p atleast for a starter.

[action] 28/4/2020 09:43

At last going up.

[action] 27/4/2020 11:14

Still down when all other banks are up.