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[swanvesta] 30/3/2020 18:07

They could design some posh ones - washable maybe. China is making lots right now, others accusing them of profiteering!

[transhoneyqueens] 30/3/2020 17:40

SHARE PRICE IS HOLDING UP WELL SO FAR

[totalgeek69] 30/3/2020 15:33

They don't make stuff. They design and sell. The products are made by suppliers around the world. India is in lock down so in your opinion who will be making them?

[bsg] 30/3/2020 09:42

Maybe SOS should start making gowns and masks.

[swanvesta] 30/3/2020 01:02

The way China and South Korea are handling it, avoiding these draconian lockdowns, is by using masks. You are right, they don't protect the wearer. They protect everyone else.

[daijavu] 29/3/2020 22:39

The World Health Organisation which directs and coordinates international health within the United Nations system, gives the following advice for the public for protecting ourselves and others from Covid-19:

"Wash your hands frequently
Maintain social distance
Avoid touching your eyes, nose and mouth"

They state that "there is no evidence that masks protect the people who wear them"

They say that "if you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with suspected 2019-nCoV infection."

They say that "if you are coughing or sneezing, have a fever and difficulty breathing, you should wear a mask and seek medical attention."

Their advice in relation to the use of masks when you do wear them is:

"Masks are effective only when used in combination with frequent hand-cleaning with alcohol-based hand rub or soap and water.
If you wear a mask, then you must know how to use it and dispose of it properly.
Before putting on a mask, clean hands with alcohol-based hand rub or soap and water.
Cover mouth and nose with mask and make sure there are no gaps between your face and the mask.
Avoid touching the mask while using it; if you do, clean your hands with alcohol-based hand rub or soap and water.
Replace the mask with a new one as soon as it is damp and do not re-use single-use masks.
To remove the mask: remove it from behind (do not touch the front of mask); discard immediately in a closed bin; clean hands with alcohol-based hand rub or soap and water."

The WHO advice does not contradict the last part of Gao's statement that masks “can prevent droplets that carry the virus from escaping and infecting others.” but it casts doubt on his opinion that "the big mistake in the United States and Europe has been the failure to wear masks"

The big mistake in the United States and Europe was their failure to respond quickly enough to the threat and in the UK in particular to run down the NHS to the point where it could barely cope with the day to day demands on its services prior to Covid-19 and to ignore the advice given in 2016 to put in place sufficient resources to deal with a pandemic such as Covid-19.

I hope that helps

[jamesto2] 29/3/2020 20:56

4p will need to hold

[transhoneyqueens] 28/3/2020 14:26

they will be in total lockdown soon.

[jamesto2] 27/3/2020 18:43

THE QUESTION IS WHY HAVE THEY NOT CLOSED OR SHUT DOWN WAREHOUSE YET?

[daijavu] 27/3/2020 11:32

Whether or not we agree about masks, please make sure you wash your hands frequently, for at least 20 seconds each time and follow the recommended method for washing them. It really is one of the most effective methods of preventing the spread of the disease that we have at the moment, along with keeping away from other people.

[swanvesta] 27/3/2020 10:22

If they stop the asymptomatic from spreading the infection then they WORK. There's evidence from Hong Kong that incidence of even the regular seasonal flu is many times below historical average.

[daijavu] 27/3/2020 09:51

The main benefit of masks comes from infected people wearing them because it helps prevent them spreading viruses around. Doctors always wear them while operating so as not to infect their patients, not to prevent their patients infecting them.

The benefits of non infected people wearing them are much less because they do not prevent all viruses getting through the inevitable gaps around the edges of the masks or into their bodies through their eyes. The masks have to be fit for the purpose and fitted correctly. It seems that most masks on the market don't do the job and most people wearing them don't know how to fit them properly. That is apart from the fact that the main source of infection is by people touching their own faces with their own hands after they have touched infected people or objects. It is why the WHO promotes hand washing above wearing masks.

[swanvesta] 26/3/2020 23:32

"the fact that wearing masks is almost a waste of time for the general public"

Apparently there is good evidence that they work. Not perfect, but they reduce infection rates quite a bit. It's a bit like how speed limits reduce traffic accidents but can't eliminate them entirely.

[goldman 107] 26/3/2020 17:00

Perhaps if I penned you and yours didn’t have the common to follow medical advice you wouldn’t take that as a cheep jibe ?

DAV
I fully expect you would , and I pen it now only as an example, there is no more need for me to do that then there was for you to with reference to PS ( or indeed anyone else )

I wish you and yours only the speedy recover that everyone deserves who get this, and perhaps we should all ( myself included) think a little longer before we post in times of high stress & low returns. May all things start to head back in the right direction for all of us soon and there is no ill intent in this post ( in case it reads otherwise)
ATB
GM

[jamesto2] 26/3/2020 16:13

profits warning on its way

[apad] 26/3/2020 13:19

pob lwc. Dai.

I've just got back home from a hospital visit on a ferry. Pretty worrying.

apad

[daijavu] 26/3/2020 13:13

Goldman. You couldn't be more wrong. I am already more worried than you could possibly imagine. The cheap jibe is entirely in your own head. I've been discussing the health issues with Paul for weeks on the Stockopedia website, including the need for any elderly relatives to self isolate and the fact that wearing masks is almost a waste of time for the general public.

I am old. Right up there in the most vulnerable age group. My wife is the same age, is bedbound and has breathing problems. She is on a ventilator. It will be a miracle if she survives. I might not survive. We have been self isolating for weeks. One of my siblings is already near death's door. Members of my family, including my son have asthma. We are all at risk.

Even if I do make a fortune, I will be lucky if I live to benefit from it

The risk to everyone is caused, in part, by people who have ignored medical advice, carried on as normal and spread the virus around.

I make no apologies for my remarks.

[goldman 107] 26/3/2020 12:02

Using the virus as way to take a cheep shot at anyone is an utterly despicable thing to do, iv seen it first hand and none of us will get away without it touching someone we love.
I hope you hit the bottom & make an absolute fortune here and anywhere else you invest, and then when you watch someone you love struggling for breath your realise how utterly unimportant the state of your financial wealth can become in an instant.

[someuwin] 26/3/2020 11:29

I suspect you'll miss out on some bargains of a lifetime by sitting on cash for too long

[daijavu] 26/3/2020 11:14

Some of those who are 'expert' investors might not have much common sense when it comes to taking medical advice.

I think that the present bounce might not survive the USA being overwhelmed by 'the minor inconvenience' of Covid-19. I doubt if Covid-19 will take much notice of the trillions earmarked to bolster their economy. They would be far better off spending the cash on stopping the virus.

On that basis I am holding onto my cash and waiting for the bottom of the next drop. It could be a lot bigger than what we have seen so far.

[transhoneyqueens] 25/3/2020 15:29

wait for 4p entry