Shire Share Discussion Threads

[philanderer] 25/8/2017 09:40

Kepler Cheuvreux initiates coverage this morning with 'buy' and tp 4600p

[justiceforthemany] 25/8/2017 09:35

Strong rise - so far...

Now we all know what happens when the US opens don't we?
Don't be surprised if it happens yet again.

[philanderer] 25/8/2017 09:33

Better start , actually +8p on the week now ;-)

[mbmiah] 24/8/2017 22:43

I'm back in at anything between 3500-3575

[philanderer] 24/8/2017 21:06

3716p USA close.

[justiceforthemany] 24/8/2017 20:00

If Shire had issued a profit warning I could understand the fall.

I am sorry but when an upgrade in EPS & reduction in debt is met with a sell off and a near 20% fall in share price then yes I do become very suspicious. A forward P/E of 9 is very, very low for big pharma. I have shared my concerns with our CEO, Investor relations and the FCA.

The pattern is the same also: US market opens and share price crashes here regardless of the wider index.

[essentialinvestor] 24/8/2017 15:53

Jack, tend to agree with that. Although like everyone else it's merely a guesstimate.

[steeplejack] 24/8/2017 12:23

I don't have any problem with shorters but I do get worried when boards start blaming all ills on their 'nefarious' activities.If there are shorters out there,then they are simply taking advantage of the uncertainty created by the launch of branded competitors,concerns which have been exacerbated by a senior management departure.Personally,I reckon the fall has been overdone.We're down from near £50 quid in double quick time.The price might fall a further couple of quid but we're clearly near the bottom and well off the top.The risk reward suggests buy.I suppose the trouble with shorters is that they are so bloody unsportsmanlike like.The little tykes are below decks boring holes in the hull,gadzooks they deserve a good flogging with a cat and nine tails whip.

[philanderer] 24/8/2017 11:00

Just can't snap the downtrend.

[soundbuy] 24/8/2017 10:50

Cheers

would agree with those comments re shorters/short only funds - they've had a cracking run of form of late - shorters begets shorters?

[essentialinvestor] 24/8/2017 10:35

Daz over on iii also looking for around £35.

[soundbuy] 24/8/2017 10:33

Agreed re SA article, sufficient depth and clarity without being blinded - however has still left me sitting on the fence - good to see director buys - having just taken some money off the table I'm a little reluctant to deploy it now, mkt and macro-wise though I've been cautious for some time. Also unless trading that chart seems to scream £35 surely.......

[essentialinvestor] 24/8/2017 08:19

The SA article Phil flagged up is well worth a read.
Whether you agree with the bullish conclusion or not,
it's a good summation of risks/opportunities.

[ruethewhirl] 23/8/2017 22:36

Just keep hoping for a bid.

The shorters will be nuked if a bid comes in at the mo.

[justiceforthemany] 23/8/2017 22:16

I know it is not illegal but it sure as hell should be. No one can deny that the share price almost always automatically drops as soon as short positions are taken and any rise is squashed/suppressed. I have seen many shares where even if the wider index may be up by as much as 3% the shorted share will remain flat or even go down! Positive results, ultra-low P/E, balance sheet all go out of the window. That is inexplicable, blatant manipulation of a share price and just plain wrong. Shire is fast becoming a pretty good example of this.

[philanderer] 23/8/2017 21:04

SHP ending down in the US @ 3719p

[ruethewhirl] 23/8/2017 20:21

Justice, what are you on about.

Nothing illegal about shorting a share.

[mbmiah] 23/8/2017 14:40

Cheers, couldn't find 2017 dates on website

[justiceforthemany] 23/8/2017 14:40

Same pattern again and again.

US opens and their shorters being the share price down.
Blatant manipulation going on yet nothing happens.

Even the CEO and entire investor relations team is aware now

[justiceforthemany] 23/8/2017 14:35

7th September is Ex-dividend date

[philanderer] 23/8/2017 13:10

And another..

Non-Exec director, Sara Mathew buying $200,000 worth of AD shares

1350 @ $ $143.23

[mbmiah] 23/8/2017 12:27

No sign of dividend dates. sp should bounce for that

[romeike] 23/8/2017 11:30

To be fair anything under £40 you're going to get a nice return here. Rise today looks steady enough. Still low volumes though, summer not over yet.

[justiceforthemany] 22/8/2017 22:06

RSI still very low so remains oversold. RSI only 26 on the Nasdaq; here RSI around 33 which is still low. Hopefully will continue to rise tomorrow

[ruethewhirl] 22/8/2017 21:09

Who's the clever ones who bought at 3600?

I have some dry powder but wont buy more after doubling up at 3800.