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Sant Uk.10te% LSE:SAN London Bond
  Price Change % Change Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Traded Last Trade
  -0.15 -0.09% 161.85 161.00 162.70 162.00 161.85 162.00 0 15:47:04

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
08/4/2019
14:59
Yes, mine in too.
cwa1
08/4/2019
14:32
I've got mine....
kirkie001
08/4/2019
14:12
Anybody know when the divi is paid on this? TIA
nerja
04/7/2018
19:58
Delayed reply hxxp://www.aboutsantander.co.uk/documents/GBP-200000000-10-0625-per-cent-Exchangeable-Capital-Securities-exchangeable-into-GBP-200000000-10-375-per-cent-Non-Cumulative-Sterling-Preference-Shares.pdf
holts
19/3/2018
14:36
Does anyone have the prospectus link ?
my retirement fund
16/3/2018
13:26
Their point of view: Additional information for preference shareholders Https://www.aviva.com/investors/credit-investors/Additional-information-for-preference-shareholders/
jaknife
16/3/2018
12:11
For the shareholders its the same thing though, if I ran someone down in the road it may be accidental if I stabbed them it may be murder, two very different things in law. Same result, I killed someone. I cant pretend I didn't kill them by saying my car killed someone or my knife killed someone can I. How then could Aviva pretend they didn't redeem ? Its the same thing. I wouldn't be allowed to intentionally voluntary or involuntary kill someone would I ? So pray tell how can Aviva either voluntary of involuntary redeem irredeemable shares?
my retirement fund
16/3/2018
11:47
Isn't redeem and cancel the same thing in this instance? No. They are very different in UK company law. That's why there's a fuss.
jaknife
16/3/2018
11:42
Isn't redeem and cancel the same thing in this instance? Yes all words have different meanings in different contexts, for example cancellation could mean extinguishing them and not returning any value, whereas redemption could mean for example restoring ones reputation. However when cancellation and the accompanying explanation used in Aviva's description is describing the eventuality of a redemption. If they did what they are threatening to do, and someone asked what happened, you could describe them as having been redeemed just like any other redeemable item. It would be different if they cancelled them and did not return the full monies, but returning the original sum would have to be effectively a redemption. This contradicts the terms then.
my retirement fund
09/3/2018
20:28
Wonderful. But the point is that the Aviva shares are being "cancelled" rather than "redeemed" and so references to redemption are irrelevant.
jaknife
09/3/2018
17:01
From Santander.com website - SAN are 'perpetual with no right for Santander to redeem them: QUOTE: Santander UK plc Sterling Preference shares What are the dividends on the Santander UK plc Sterling Preference Shares? There are two series of Santander UK plc Sterling preference shares in issue: 10.375% and 8.625%. The cash dividend is paid net of the "associated tax credit" which is available to individuals who are UK tax residents. Under current law the cash dividend is: 9.3375% and 7.7625%. What is the maturity date? Each series of preference shares is perpetual. Santander UK plc does not have any rights to redeem the preference shares, but it does have the authority by way of shareholders' resolution to repurchase them provided that the Financial Services Authority agrees to this at the time of repurchase. UNQUOTE
jeantere
09/3/2018
10:32
Sky: I’d have thought Lloyds would have done it by now if they could ( based on what happened with the Coco’s ). And the wording of the Llpc/d terms doesn’t seem to give the same opportunity for redemption that the terms of the Aviva prefs do. However you use the word “likely”so I’m wondering if I am overlooking something obvious ?
cousin jack
09/3/2018
09:50
Indeed - am down 10s of thousands - you say 'likely' - isn't it more 'possible' and, in my view, with some such as LLPC - 'unlikely'
folderboy
09/3/2018
09:46
All bank prefs being hammered post the AVIVA shock yesterday re likely redemption of all prefs at par, through a capital reduction trick!
skyship
26/7/2017
17:12
I have some of these shares but have lost my Santander share certificate (still receive the dividend though and have my shareholder ref number). Does anyone know who I should contact for advice on how to proceed. Any help greatly appreciated
serotine
21/6/2016
17:05
You know what it's like, the market becomes totally irrational when the unexpected or the unknown happens ... they sell everything, throwing the baby out with the bathwater. If like me you picked these up for 80p+ and below par, then protecting your capital at this level makes sense if able to pick them up cheaper at a later date?
slj
21/6/2016
13:06
Only added a few - and thinking it was a mistake . . . . .
folderboy
21/6/2016
12:48
Gosh okay... you're adding then? I have quite a lot of these, tried selling 10k just to see how much I would get? Couldn't give me an online quote - was instructed to place an order with the dealers.
slj
21/6/2016
11:06
Added a few - paid 154
folderboy
21/6/2016
10:54
IN the event of BREXIT ... where do you guys reckon will happen to this one's price?
slj
16/3/2016
18:28
Good news from hiriskpaul on TMF:- Just had an email from Santander IR - pref dividends will be going up from 5 April 2016!
cwa1
10/3/2016
09:42
Indeed and as monies to be credited after this tax year they will have to be tax free
my retirement fund
10/3/2016
08:49
XD today and pay day is 6/4 for this and SANB
cwa1
13/11/2015
09:34
No Santa rally this year, in fact we are likely to see a sell off as Markets worldwide struggle to prosper. B.O.E. boss Carney is an accident waiting to happen and the USA will raise interest rates and cause an even bigger sell-off.
kun aguero1
02/11/2015
20:12
Thanks guys, that was my original thinking, but thanks for confirming.
wirralowl
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