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[poikka] 23/3/2020 17:53

Ok, thanks, Tim. Sounds promising.

Not too fussed myself, just hate going to the supermarkets and facing the evidence of greed, bad enough on the roads these days with little respect shown for others.

[tim 3] 23/3/2020 16:29

Hi PoikkaNo am based in Sheffield.Last week went in several stores and the story was the devastation.Today been in 2 stores and both the same real signs of rebuilding and not only that but that frantic panic we had last week has gone.Loads of space in the carpark.

[poikka] 23/3/2020 14:36

Hey Tim, any chance it might have been Hedge End? Going to have to face a trip before much longer - out of frozen fish and nearly out of other frozen meat; ok for fresh veg from local shop. Wine was nearly all gone last week - don't ask.

[poikka] 23/3/2020 14:33

Getting back to the sp, whilst I'm tempted to buy on the basis that loadsa stuff' being sold, plus just recently the likelihood of a run on beer, there might come a time when restrictions could be placed on supermarkets' practices that impact profitability; so I'm holding back for a while.

Add to that, the fact that after the dust has settled, folk won't need to buy as much because they're up to their greedy eyes in stuff, and we'll get a fall in revenue to counter the present increase. Plus the cost of extra staff and overtime.

[poikka] 23/3/2020 13:58

Jenni - you either failed to read what I wrote re masks and gloves, or you're just naturally argumentative.

I do agree that hand sanitisers would be a good idea, at least, at the entrance to stores.

As for the rest, I don't recall saying that I was unsympathetic towards the plight of supermarket staff, and indeed you might have noticed that I offered a solution to the plight of shelf stackers who come into more contact with the public than checkout staff.

But hey, there's an easy solution for me to avoid your nonsense.

[jenniferzz] 23/3/2020 12:52

Poikka

Kind of you to tell us what to do !

You go work in Sainsburys without a mask, gloves, no distancing, no number control, no plexi glass, no customer hygiene control and deal with an average of 60,000 customers in the confined space of the store day in and day out, unattractive working conditions, dangerous to their health, their family, unattractive pay. STAY AT HOME ! oh no they can't they are keeping us all fed and alive. Nice and snug at home are you ??

Problem/compromise solution :

1 customer in per household
1 in 1 out
Gloves provided by the store and worn by the customer
Numbers limited
2 m spacing in and outside the store
Gloves, masks and plexiglass (cashiers) for the staff
Sanitiser at the entrance for customers on entering

[tim 3] 23/3/2020 12:07

Some good news for a change just been in a very large Sainsburys outlet near us and shelves were much better stocked only shortages were toilet rolls bread pasta and canned veg and frozen other than that looked almost as I would expect loads of fresh food and produce.

Spoke to a manager I know in there and he said things were getting back to normal.

This same store was absolutely devastated last week.

[poikka] 23/3/2020 11:02

21.3 - Daily confirmed UK cases = 1035
22.3 - ditto 665

21.3 - Deaths increased by 56
22.3 - ditto 48

Of course, numbers fluctuate, and shouldn't read too much into it, but any less bad news is good to hear these days. The true numbers are far higher, of course.

[poikka] 23/3/2020 10:59

An N95 respirator mask protects against some 95% of airborne droplets.

A surgical mask does not protect against small airborne droplets and is loose fitting.

Add to that the negative effect by giving folk a false sense of security, and you have the answer.

Stop panicking, and stop looking abroad for the answers; the UK is doing as well as it possibly can.

[poikka] 23/3/2020 08:30

Spob - Why has Primark shut down

Why has John Lewis shut down"

They don't sell food.

Not an expert, but I do believe that there are masks and masks, and the more basic ones could well have a negative impact on the fight against the virus by giving folk a false sense of security.

Sainsbury's staff wear gloves.

One possible way of protecting staff could be 2-hourly 15 min shelf stocking time when no one's allowed in - or summat like that?

[spob] 23/3/2020 07:50

" Masks are ineffective at containing it anyway "


that's probably what Sainsbury will say

if they care about their staff, like they do in other countries they will provide all staff with disposable masks and gloves


This is a HIGHLY CONTAGIOUS AIRBOURNE RESPIRATORY VIRUS

and masks definitely do help to stop this virus being spread from person to person

they wear them in hospitals for a reason


people don't realise just how highly contagious this virus is

and how easily this virus is transferred from person to person


they need to wake up and look at what is happening in Italy


Why has Primark shut down

Why has John Lewis shut down

Why has McDonalds shut down

[jenniferzz] 23/3/2020 06:43

In Spain

It is by law

1 customer in per household
1 in 1 out
Gloves provided by the store and worn by the customer
Numbers limited
2 m spacing in and outside the store
Gloves, masks and plexiglass (cashiers) for the staff
Sanitiser at the entrance for customers on entering

All the above is compulsory

Everyone complies because the alternative is greater infection and greater number of deaths

the UK just does not get it !!!!!!!!!! This argument just goes round and round and in the meantime more people get sick. Very easily remedied.

We can put a man on the moon, fund and stage a global mega royal wedding for two people who then left the country, Sainsburys and other food retailers can now have Christmas season sales every day and mega takings but we can't do any of the above simple measures. !!!!!!!!!!!

Food retail staff are front line essential workers abandon them at your peril. Simple measures for the benefit of the staff, customers and beating the virus.

The UK just does not get it

[sr2day] 23/3/2020 00:46

supermarkets are bound to be the place where most people are going to be contaminated.the only solution is to have mobile groceries stores with essential items which go to people.not easy but otherwise a lot of people will die of starvation if this carries on for a long time.

[buywell3] 23/3/2020 00:38

IMO it is only a matter of time before crowded supermarkets are seen as a causation factor of transmission of Covid-19

Too many folks touching things

Too many staff doing the same

Lots of folks in a confined space

dyor

[tim 3] 23/3/2020 00:20

Jenniferzz

Masks are hard to get hold of and are ineffective at containing it anyway.

Gloves are available to staff.

Sanitiser is already in incredibly short supply.

They are introducing measures to protect cashiers like markings on the floor where customers are not allowed to stand.

In the mornings there are times when only older customers or NHS workers and social care workers can shop.

They are prioritising older and disabled people with online delivery slots.

They are updating these measures daily and would not surprise me if limiting numbers in the store is a possibility but that brings its own problems.

Not perfect but to say they don't care is harsh.

Its the selfish customers who have stripped the shelves at the beginning of last week before the restrictions came in who really need to have a good look in the mirror.

[rolo7] 22/3/2020 22:31

5. No easter holidays abroad this year in weeks to come! No mass getaway

[jenniferzz] 22/3/2020 22:02

Sainsburys and other retail food staff are the cannon fodder in these unprecedented times. Supermarkets attract the biggest amount of people in a confined space with a medium size store having 60,000 customers pass through the doors on any given day.

Staff sicknesses are mounting up. No barrier equipment on tills (plexglass is a simple solution) no limiting to 1 shopper only (not the entire family or couples) no limiting amounts of customers in the store or operating a 1 in 1 out scheme. No masks or gloves for staff. No plastic gloves and santisers to wash hands and place gloves on for customers entering, the preventative measures are endless and completely ignored.

20000 new temp staff being recruited at Tesco to deal with surge in demand but don't forget about the fallen staff that they will be replacing ! this sadly is inevitable. Current operating process for customers and staff is helping to spread the disease and could be curtailed.

Nobody seems to care (I don't work for Sainsburys I just see this as plain as day)why can't the great minds that run the business or our political leaders see this ??? they must do. So it's cannon fodder then in this war of attrition.

[loganair] 22/3/2020 09:12

I have trying to work out a rough estimate of how much extra spend there will be in the supermarkets because of:

1. People working from home so not having lunch out.
2. Kids not at school so not having school lunches.
3. All the retail and hospitality workers now at home because their places of work have shut so not eating lunch out.
4. People not being able to go out in the evenings and weekends to pubs and restaurants etc.


I reckon about £400mln per week, £1.6bln per month extra is going to be needed to be spent in the supermarkets because of the above.

[spob] 22/3/2020 09:05

people will be buying dog food soon

but not for dogs

ha ha

[poikka] 20/3/2020 14:40

Same at Sainsbury's Hedge End, yesterday. I suppose that sanity will return eventually - or just hide away for a while.

[loganair] 20/3/2020 13:20

Popped in to my local Tesco today as well as there the usual No toilet Paper, UHT milk and pasta there was also NO....

Cereal
Porridge
Eggs

And virtually No frozen foods in the freezers.

[ny boy] 19/3/2020 09:58

Strong bounce off 180p, impressive, most of the rise due to having special elderly shopping hours, free of brats, that got the older investor to hit the buy button! 😉