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Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Saga Plc LSE:SAGA London Ordinary Share GB00BLT1Y088 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +0.34p +0.78% 43.90p 43.80p 43.92p 44.34p 43.24p 43.76p 1,477,129 11:31:58
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Life Insurance 841.5 -162.0 -14.5 - 493.00

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
23/6/2019
09:27
Must have missed something. Where does £900 million come from?
sharebuddy1
23/6/2019
09:15
Reading back at bit... Borrowed £900 million to buy a couple of ships that will be presumably worthless in 25 years or so. Not just Saga, of course, that go down this route and am guessing that is the only way to make Cruising possible and profitable (hopefully) No different to borrowing money to buy a car knowing that in 10 years time it will be worthless Needs must
ignoble
23/6/2019
08:50
I would have thought they could charge premium prices for a new ship!!! A discount of 30% sounds like destroying margins especially if already 86% booked for next year for a ship that has not even started sailing yet!!!
koetser
22/6/2019
23:56
Kenmitch Bear in mind though that the advertised prices for the new Saga ship include a first year discount of around 30-35%. The gap to more expensive luxury lines will probably narrow significantly from the second year on.The ship looks great though - and it looks like a liner rather than the block of flats most lines are churning out. We usually go on the smaller P&O ships and are likely to stick with them whilst they have outside cabins, as they offer great value and a balcony is not something we crave. However when P&O no longer have smaller ships (which is the way it’s going) then I’m sure we’ll be looking at Saga if their new ships are as good as they look.
cousin jack
22/6/2019
21:07
kenmitch, Look forward to it! ;-)
edmondj
22/6/2019
16:30
Advertised in the Mail 254 day cruise on the Viking Prince Top Room. £195000 per person Amazing,,, Lottery win money
ignoble
22/6/2019
13:17
EdmondJ Yes. I know you are usually very clued up and have read your various columns since your Telegraph Private Investor days, but on cruises you seem off beam! e.g your description of their new ships is plain wrong in that their new ships are not GIANT but classed as small. e.g Just 1000 passengers, whereas the giant floating hotels have as many as 6000! I’ll do a fuller reply within a day or so. Meantime I agree re Lance Batchelor!
kenmitch
22/6/2019
09:17
Brochure free in the Daily Mail detailing all the New Cruises to come. Looks very good and if I have read it correctly, all Cruises are "no fly" I would think that will appeal to a lot of people. Board at Southampton and return there. Brochure is impressive, imho
ignoble
22/6/2019
08:10
I'm looking for Mr Goodmans?...
diku
22/6/2019
06:52
kenmitch, Are you confident, choosy affluent pensioners will flock to Saga's new cruise-ships: a prestige or 'floating council estate' experience? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc7G0-UjzgM A curious aspect of the bull case advocated here (nothing personal implied) is agreement, Lance Batchelor is a hopeless CEO and almost any replacement will be a positive, yet the debt-driven gamble of these giant ships is effectively his project hence buyers of the stock long-term are taking a view on his competency also.
edmondj
21/6/2019
23:12
Glavey. Yes.
kenmitch
21/6/2019
22:40
And then presumably ,, go and pay silly money for Destinology etc
gripfit
21/6/2019
22:39
It should not have been the valuation at IPO
gripfit
21/6/2019
20:42
koetser.... I guess you have not been investing for very long. The duty of the market is to divest the gullible from their cash. Where all MEANINGFUL information is in public domain (results, interims and trading updates) this translates into the CORRECT price for the bookies and the price rises and falls in response. If the "market" has a surplus qty buyer of shares on their book, the price is marked down for the av. herbert likes to buy on "up days" and this will give balance to ensure that the "turn" is made. The reverse happens when the "market" does not have enough shares to fill the orders to frighten the ordinary punter into disposing of their holding because they have made the "wrong decision" I've been in this game a long time and still get things wrong. The adage of buying shares in companies you understand is good advice I was given. As a simpleton, I understand how SAGA generates turnover. I don't understand how the managers have made such a complete horlicks of not just the insurance side but also the leisure side over the duration of listing and it has taken so long for the share price to arrive at current valuation.
erogenous jones
21/6/2019
20:34
Possibly yes, but I suspect they already have so I'm not expecting a bounce. My understanding is that it just means the downward pressure is reduced - anyone got a more informed view?
zulu_principle
21/6/2019
20:16
Does this mean that ftse smallcap funds will start buying on Monday?
koetser
21/6/2019
18:33
Final FTSE250 tracker clearout - presumably some were actually transfers of ownership to other funds managed by the same company e.g. "Small Cap", "Recovery", etc). Should all calm down on Monday morning when the new indexes come into effect.
zulu_principle
21/6/2019
17:36
That was huge volume!!!! So many sells and still it goes up!!!
koetser
21/6/2019
16:47
kenmitch, post 2381, is this what you are referring to? "Price Promise (Saga Pearl II, Saga Sapphire, Spirit of Discovery and Spirit of Adventure only): Should we ever reduce our prices or bring in a new special offer after you book (optional ad-hoc services are excluded), we’ll work out the difference and pass the value of the saving back to you. This applies as long as the discounted holiday is exactly the same package offered under exactly the same terms of sale (which means the full terms that apply to your holiday contract, including your cabin grade and whether your cabin is allocated at the time of booking or at embarkation). In calculating any possible saving due, we’ll take into consideration all offers and discounts that were applied at the time of booking and compare the overall price that you’ve been charged with the current price. We will pass on the value of the saving in the form of a higher grade cabin, on-board credit or other value added benefit."
glavey
21/6/2019
16:36
Wow I guess thats the last of the tracker funds exiting....huge volumes in closing auction - same in JUST Group
nav_mike
21/6/2019
16:30
The burst of selling seemed to coincide with a 600k odd OB trade that was reported a short while later. Buy or sell, who knows...would guess a sell For last few days there has been a massive amount of OB trades, heavily skewed toward the buy side. Maybe its the tracker funds getting out on the AT trades and joe public taking them up. Anyway for now at least the rot has stopped for a while
nav_mike
21/6/2019
16:18
NAV_Mike, interestingly, most trades seem to be executed at well under the normal market size (15,000 shares) but volume is starting to settle down a bit now. While I am sure that ALGO trades are determining the continued momentum which will take the share price on a course downwards, my suspicion is that the ordinary herbert is in a buying mood for recovery. Batchelors departure is excellent news. Once a new appointment is made, I guess that the next change will be a new Chairman - they are the ones that oversee what a CEO does, decide on the agenda for meetings and the time to spend on any topic. Recovery can only really begin with CEO appointment and might not be evidenced for 6 months. The advantage for ordinary punters is that during this period of uncertainty, a Takeover approach can be made taking advantage of disarray.
erogenous jones
21/6/2019
15:11
kenmitch, Cheers for your input!
edmondj
21/6/2019
14:35
Some really noticeable bursts of AT sells against the bid since 2pm but encouragingly they seem to be getting mopped up and the price has only dropped a little Maybe US related selling?
nav_mike
21/6/2019
13:55
Cheers again bigdaddio
koetser
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