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Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Safestyle Uk Plc LSE:SFE London Ordinary Share JE00BGP63272 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  2.50 6.19% 42.90 42.30 43.50 42.60 40.50 40.50 352,798 16:35:21
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Household Goods & Home Construction 126.2 -3.8 -4.0 - 57

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04/3/2018
23:38
I rarely filter or ignore anyone shaker, but I do agree that amongst some useful negative posts there does seem to be a fair bit of "noise". I am also highly suspicious of the high number of very recent positive ratings for safeglaze on Trustpilot (an ironic name given how easy it seems to game) it feels like there is a bit of a "campaign" going on here. All that said, I do think that Safestyle share price is more likely than not to go lower (maybe significantly so) over the next 'few' months. No advice intended, but I wouldn't want to be a holder at the moment as in the near term I think the risks outweigh the rewards.
kazoom
04/3/2018
22:56
fair to assume some posters carry a grudge against sfe. ex employees maybe? get over it. meantime ignore or filter. they add nothing useful or interesting
shaker44
04/3/2018
22:50
I certainly don't think that Safestyle is a good investment at the current time/price. However, to suggest that they are doomed is nonsense really, yes the double glazing market is cut throat, but it always has been. As you point out highasakite, there are local independents and any number of 'chains' in the market as well as the new entrant (safeglaze). Up till now Safestyle have achieved steady growth against this backdrop. Now they are facing the dual headwinds of 1. slowing consumer spending and 2. the 'aggressive' (which I read as loss-leading) competitor as well as the competition which has always been there. The slowdown in spending will pass and Safestyle I would say has bigger guns and deeper pockets if it comes down to price war with the new entrant. I can see profits continuing to be hit in the near term, but I can see no reason to assume that Safestyle will go under.
kazoom
04/3/2018
22:38
There won't be any upturn here. The market is cut throat. Sales/margins under huge pressure from competitors who are slashing prices. Safestyle are doomed. PS I had a quote from Safestyle a couple of weeks ago for a full set of new PVC windows and doors. On seeing this quote a local independent company said they could do the same job for 25% less ! They start next week.
highasakite
04/3/2018
22:35
antics here remind of 'Harry's Kingdom' 1987 tvm starring Timothy West.
mw8156
04/3/2018
09:19
there seem to be some posters trying to promote the 'new competitor'and rubbishing sfe. interesting!
shaker44
03/3/2018
14:21
And the conclusion is....................There are better places to invest one's money!
eggbaconandbubble
03/3/2018
13:01
toby - you may know some stuff, but you are wrong here. 1. Safestyle fell into loss during the slowdown a decade ago. 2. Over the last year up until recently performance had been disappointing DESPITE increasing market share. So they have TWO things to battle - the new competitor AND tough consumer spending, I agree though I don't expect a quick recovery
kazoom
03/3/2018
11:52
Shaker44 , i can tell you , safestyle's share plunge has absolutely nothing to do with market conditions...it has to do with losing it's core staff to a fast emerging competitor. not sure how it will pan out, but imho it won't be recovering any time soon
tobyteddy
03/3/2018
08:53
in recessions consumers tend to avoid non essential spend. cash and loans. common sense.
shaker44
03/3/2018
08:13
Hi guys, firstly there isn't a downturn in the market. Safestyle even excel in reccesion. ie people renovate instead of moving house. the downturn is purely due to the New competition!! if the competition increases???? i dont hold shares , never have, never will....i just know stuff
tobyteddy
01/3/2018
21:38
There never is. I think thats going a bit over board. They are having a tough time, but hardly going over the cliff, yet at least. Nevertheless, to warn on 2018 in February means that the run-rate must be poor. Lets hope things pick up a little in the Spring. At least the comparatives will soon be easier!
topvest
01/3/2018
21:28
The board expects to pay a dividend. Note the 'expects'. By no means a certainty.
2magpies
01/3/2018
20:15
Looking a bit more closely it looks like Kiz Misra (sales director) and Phil O’Malley (Ops Director) left after or before Giles Richell was appointed to the board about a year ago and took some of their team with them. This explains the sudden change in fortunes over the last year. Never mentioned to shareholders. Two possibilities I suppose: I would suspect that things will quieten down and that they will start to get a grip on the situation. OR The wheels really fall off and the situation gets worse and worse. Not really worth selling at this price. Can't imagine that the whole of Safestyle was built around these two individuals. Time for the CEO to get it sorted out. From Admission document Kiran Misra (Sales Director, aged 48) Kiran has been with the business for 20 years. After spending 6 years in pharmaceutical sales with Pfizer he joined Safestyle when the business was established in 1993 and worked his way up to become Sales Director in 1999. He also had 9,722,222 shares and sold 5,833,333 in the IPO. Must have been the main driver of the business then if he owned 3x more shares that the CEO. Why didn't they appoint him to the Board? Presume he left when he was overlooked for the new chap. Poor.
topvest
01/3/2018
19:59
Another great Simon Thompson of the Investors Chronicle tip.
trytotakeiteasy
01/3/2018
14:22
Without looking into the facts surrounding SFE or the glazing market in general - The problem here is clearly management. I base that on the approach I received when I asked this company to quote for a sizeable job. The arrogance and pushiness of the sales staff made a time share rep. appear laid back. The whole affair stank of personnel on highly geared commission based remuneration. That attitude always comes from above! 'Significant new competition' is an excuse. The industry as a whole seems to be in good health. I would avoid investment here until a major management shake up takes place, if it's not already too late. How often have I seen all this before. PS. Rant over!
eggbaconandbubble
01/3/2018
13:06
why? my views are the same. I dont expect 90p. the usually pessimistic charlie campbell at liberum now predicts 140p, but as ever, set a conservative tp of 130p. money to be made here.
shaker44
01/3/2018
12:14
Shaker, you might want to review your post - 826.
essentialinvestor
01/3/2018
11:57
you are so right!! new incentives and FFF. Fire Failures Fast. gotta get the motor running again
shaker44
28/2/2018
19:22
Hmm interesting about SafeGlaze. You would have thought they had some legal avenues to explore. I thought that one of Safestyle competitive advantages was a single site manufacturing facility. The new operation certainly won’t have that without substantial capital. Nevertheless, Safestyle haven’t been very open about the departures until now. Even now they haven’t really been very transparent and there is more info on this B.B. It does explain the decline, if the highly successful sales organisation built up over years have all departed and are now focused on taking Safestyle business. The director sale is a bit naughty as he hasn’t really explained what is actually going on and banked profits on the quiet. Not very ethical. Disappointed.
topvest
28/2/2018
18:43
PS I had a quote from Safestyle a couple of weeks ago for a full set of new PVC windows and doors. On seeing this quote a local independent company said they could do the same job for 25% less ! They start next week.
highasakite
28/2/2018
16:10
There won't be any upturn. The market is cut throat. Sales/margins under huge pressure from competitors who are slashing prices. Safestyle are doomed.
highasakite
28/2/2018
13:35
"The Group continues to be cash generative, with a strong cash position and robust balance sheet. Safestyle remains very well invested for any upturn in demand and the Board expects the benefits of its cost savings programme to take effect in 2018, particularly in the second half."
gilotron
28/2/2018
13:21
Do they have any competitive advantage like scale or technology or is it just some sales people.
gilotron
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