Royal Bank Of Scotland Share Discussion Threads

[polar fox] 26/11/2019 16:10

leeds,

While it's quiet, go to Peston's Twitter account and click on the "Results" sign post picture earlier today. Very interesting piece, in which Peter Kellner argues that a CON landslide is certainly possible. Basically, he puts the numbers on the personal, instinctive analysis that persuaded me to bet on them recently, when the odds were still slightly against, rather than where they are now.

[leedskier] 25/11/2019 16:01

£ rising today: currently €1.17 and change.

[polar fox] 25/11/2019 14:19

A most unusual Christmas on the way - Tom ND tweet:

No10 announces the new Queen's Speech will be on Thurs Dec 19 if Boris Johnson remains PM, just a week after #GE2019. Paves the way for a WAB 2nd reading vote on the 20th, or even (😱) 23rd/24th. Precise timing for it tbc, dependent on a Tory majority and the size of it.

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This is self-serving stuff, of course, putting additional pressure on some Leave voters to cross to the Tories "to get it done".

[delphiman] 25/11/2019 14:06

I've also moved my Pension fund from UK FTSE 100 to a Global growth Fund so it wont suffer the hit of any one country like the FTSE would.

[delphiman] 25/11/2019 13:22

BREXIT will wipe 8% off GDP for the next 10 years are where the analysis's are at.
So where we should have doubled our GDP in 10 years we will be 8% behind where we are today.

[delphiman] 25/11/2019 13:19

plus this is not just Labour, its BREXIT,
Brexit will alone put this share at £1.50 again all by itself. The recession is coming and was nearly here a few weeks ago and we narrowly avoided it. I really wish I could be optimistic on everything but in the short term We are all doomed. Ive sold all My holding in RBS at £2.36 bought at £4.40 years ago like you full of optimism only to be slapped and slapped and slaped, so if you like a slapping and think its only about Boris fingers crossed for you but I think its because its better to sell and buy back in at lows than to ride the down 50% loss of price down is 100% climb on price back up.
Should it be at the lows now, then the current economic climate isnt going to make it shoot like a rocket will it so you have plenty of time to get back in should that be the case.
There is no reason this stock should rise at all in this current climate until the indecision is taken away.

[delphiman] 25/11/2019 13:15

communism lol, there may be a slight lean from normal towards that but proper communism, there nothing like that.
An OTT word for the reality really.

[cfc1] 25/11/2019 12:52

delph - sell then - simple!!!! or keep your short open and I reckon you will get slaughtered....but if your mate Corybn gets in then keep your short open and enjoy communism!

[delphiman] 25/11/2019 12:21

Think logically, its not a bad price right now, the weekly trend is down since last feb, we are on the brink of a cliff is there any substantiated reason this share should go up right now, except one, shorter's raise it to sink you, sinking starts tomorrow in my guestimate.

[delphiman] 25/11/2019 12:07

If Labour did win this share would become 50p almost over night. Dont think I can take the risk.

[delphiman] 25/11/2019 12:05

safest thing to do is get out and get back in after the election and brexit.

[delphiman] 25/11/2019 12:02

well we never thought Donald trump would get in office, look what time for change did, people are sick of the same old same old, I would not be surprised if labour wins, brexit was another example of time for change, now this election, and a generation who doesnt know any different and those polls didnt do Teresa May any good.

[polar fox] 25/11/2019 11:44

I mentioned the possibility of CON maj shortening from 4/11 to 1/3 last week. It's happened this morning. NOM out to 23/10. LAB maj 33/1.

Electoral Calculus latest update has a CON maj of 80. Just an indication, it varies. 365-202-20LD.

[nemesis6] 25/11/2019 09:49

worried pensioners??? over 100 odd quid that they wont have to pay if they cant afford it...normally just bung em an extra 1% on savings and they jump into line...as usual

[polar fox] 24/11/2019 16:16

Well, I've just quickly read through all 59 pages of the manifesto and all that is said about free TV licences is: "We recognize the value of free TV licences for the over-75s and believe they should be funded by the BBC."

Weasel words again. What a missed opportunity to please legions of worried pensioners and gain votes! It simply can't be reconciled with that report in the Sun on Nov.2, where BJ was all gung-ho to continue with free licences after all.

My conclusion - just another smoke and mirrors fail.

[polar fox] 24/11/2019 12:06

Tom ND tweet. This may include good news for TV licences perhaps:

Despite the massive pre-briefing, I’m also told there are still some significant surprises to come in the Tory manifesto when we finally see it at 2pm today (good news for daily newspaper journalists).

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[polar fox] 24/11/2019 07:48

It appears the manifesto is to be launched this afternoon in the W Midlands. Lots of briefing reported everywhere.

Meantime, the New Statesman has some interesting analysis, putting the Tories on course for a majority of 48 and some intriguing possibilities that might arise from tactical voting:

The Conservatives are on course for a majority of 48, according to analysis of YouGov conducted by Datapraxis, whose chief executive, Paul Hilder, was a candidate for the role of Labour general secretary under Jeremy Corbyn.

According to Datapraxis’ analysis, if the election were held tomorrow, the Conservatives would gain 32 seats on 2017, taking them to 349. The SNP would win 49 of the 59 seats in Scotland, while the Liberal Democrats would gain just two seats across the United Kingdom, taking them to 14. Labour would lose 49 seats, taking them to just 213, their worst defeat since 1983. Plaid Cymru would go from four to five seats, while the Greens would hold steady at one.

However, Datapraxis’ seat-by-seat analysis also shows that Zac Goldsmith is set to lose his seat to the Liberal Democrats’ Sarah Olney and that tactical voting could see five Conservative big beasts join him, including Boris Johnson himself. In Dominic Raab’s Esher and Walton constituency, his majority has been slashed to just 2,972 over the Liberal Democrats – small enough for Labour and Green voters to kick the Foreign Secretary out by voting tactically for the Liberal Democrats. In Chingford and Wood Green, Iain Duncan Smith’s majority is set to fall to 1,914 – again, within the reach of tactical voting by Liberal Democrat and Green voters in the constituency, they lend their votes to Labour. Tactical votes for the Liberal Democrats in Wokingham could cost John Redwood his seat, while ERG chief Steve Baker in Wycombe and Boris Johnson himself could be unseated by tactical voting for the Labour candidates.

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[polar fox] 23/11/2019 20:53

Already two new polls this evening, both favourable to the Tories, so the CON maj odds are shortening again. Opinium gives a 19 point lead.

1/2 is no longer available, replaced by 4/9, 2/5 and 4/11. If the manifesto launch is well received tomorrow, we could see 1/3.
NOM out to 9/4.

ADD.
From the Telegraph:

Boris Johnson is on course for a 64-seat majority having successfully “squeezed̶1; the Brexit party, new analysis claims.

The Conservatives are currently polling at 42.8 per cent support, which looks set to deliver the party 357 seats.

The poll of polls by Electoral Calculus found that the election seems to be split down Leave and Remain lines, taking in research from five different surveys from Nov 14 to 19, polling over 7,500 people.

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[leedskier] 23/11/2019 08:19

I did watch the programme.

My view about Boris has been made pretty clear here since before the referendum. For a more informed view as to why see ... (NB. the creator of that website is the Telegraph's former political editor, Peter Oborne

But as commented in the overnight reporting by the serious press, Boris was let off the hook last night. There were no serious challenges to his personal integrity and he has zero responsibility for the divisive social and economic policies of May's Govt, many of which he vehemently disagrees with, and is trying to reverse.

The real loser last night was Swinson. If the response of the audience last night is any guide the LibDems are not forgiven for the sell out between 2010 and 2015, and few support simply cancelling Brexit.

In which case, in England & Wales, it could be a two horse race between Johnson and Corbyn. Does anyone seriously believe that the UK is about to vote in Corbyn?

[polar fox] 23/11/2019 06:09

Did you even watch the programme, leeds?

Two tweets from Best for Britain:

1. The @Conservatives Twitter account hasn’t tweeted a single clip of Boris Johnson from tonight’s #BBCQT debate. They’re embarrassed of their own leader!

2. Overall:

Sturgeon 8 out of 10
Corbyn 5 out of 10
Swinson 5 out of 10
Johnson 3 out of 10

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[largeronald] 23/11/2019 01:11

leedskier - seriously? Only for the buffoon of the decade contest.

[chiefbrody] 22/11/2019 23:20

Yet many saying he came last.

[leedskier] 22/11/2019 21:13

Much better performance by Boris tonight.