Rio Tinto Share Discussion Threads

[adrian j boris] 09/6/2019 15:15

A high IQ does not seem to help turvart with his ability to communicate with his fellow humans if anything, he has done a great job of alienating most posters on this thread a little bit of empathy,modesty and street smartness might go a long way HOW TO MAKE FRIENDS AND INFLUENCE PEOPLE Become genuinely interested in other people. ... Be a good listener. ... Make the other person feel important – and do it sincerely. DALE CARNEGIE also keep to the subject of the thread which is RIO TINTO

[la forge] 09/6/2019 11:10

A Deeper Look into the Quant Scorecard For: Rio Tinto Group (LSE:RIO), UBS Group AG (SWX:UBSG) Written by John Wilkes × June 9, 2019 There are many different tools to determine whether a company is profitable or not. One of the most popular ratios is the “Return on Assets” (aka ROA). This score indicates how profitable a company is relative to its total assets. The Return on Assets for Rio Tinto Group (LSE:RIO) is 0.142469. This number is calculated by dividing net income after tax by the company’s total assets. A company that manages their assets well will have a higher return, while a company that manages their assets poorly will have a lower return. Creating a diversified stock portfolio is one way that investors may combat the unknown. Appropriate levels of risk that include different market scenarios might vary from one individual investor to the next. Investors may need to careful that they do not become too reliant on one big position. When that position is producing returns, it can be easy to assume that the holding will continue to produce positive results. If the portfolio is weighted too heavily on one or two big positions, an overall market downturn may send the investor reeling. Finding that proper portfolio balance is typically what dedicated investors strive for. Taking a step further we can take a look at various other valuation metrics. Rio Tinto Group (LSE:RIO) has a Price to Book ratio of 2.146671. This ratio is calculated by dividing the current share price by the book value per share. Investors may use Price to Book to display how the market portrays the value of a stock. Checking in on some other ratios, the company has a Price to Cash Flow ratio of 7.933295, and a current Price to Earnings ratio of 6.876337. The P/E ratio is one of the most common ratios used for figuring out whether a company is overvalued or undervalued. The Free Cash Flor Yield 5yr Average is calculated by taking the five year average free cash flow of a company, and dividing it by the current enterprise value. Enterprise Value is calculated by taking the market capitalization plus debt, minority interest and preferred shares, minus total cash and cash equivalents. The average FCF of a company is determined by looking at the cash generated by operations of the company. The Free Cash Flow Yield 5 Year Average of Rio Tinto Group (LSE:RIO) is 0.049266. The Return on Invested Capital (aka ROIC) for Rio Tinto Group (LSE:RIO) is 0.163431. The Return on Invested Capital is a ratio that determines whether a company is profitable or not. It tells investors how well a company is turning their capital into profits. The ROIC is calculated by dividing the net operating profit (or EBIT) by the employed capital. The employed capital is calculated by subrating current liabilities from total assets. Similarly, the Return on Invested Capital Quality ratio is a tool in evaluating the quality of a company’s ROIC over the course of five years. The ROIC Quality of Rio Tinto Group (LSE:RIO) is 3.920713. This is calculated by dividing the five year average ROIC by the Standard Deviation of the 5 year ROIC. The ROIC 5 year average is calculated using the five year average EBIT, five year average (net working capital and net fixed assets). The ROIC 5 year average of Rio Tinto Group (LSE:RIO) is 0.117215. Rio Tinto Group (LSE:RIO) presently has a current ratio of 1.92. The current ratio, also known as the working capital ratio, is a liquidity ratio that displays the proportion of current assets of a business relative to the current liabilities. The ratio is simply calculated by dividing current liabilities by current assets. The ratio may be used to provide an idea of the ability of a certain company to pay back its liabilities with assets. Typically, the higher the current ratio the better, as the company may be more capable of paying back its obligations. In terms of value, Rio Tinto Group (LSE:RIO) has a Value Composite score of 24. Developed by James O’Shaughnessy, the VC score uses five valuation ratios. These ratios are price to earnings, price to cash flow, EBITDA to EV, price to book value, and price to sales. The VC is displayed as a number between 1 and 100. In general, a company with a score closer to 0 would be seen as undervalued, and a score closer to 100 would indicate an overvalued company. Adding a sixth ratio, shareholder yield, we can view the Value Composite 2 score which is currently sitting at 16. Quant Ranks (ERP5, Gross Margin, F Score) The ERP5 Rank is an investment tool that analysts use to discover undervalued companies. The ERP5 looks at the Price to Book ratio, Earnings Yield, ROIC and 5 year average ROIC. The ERP5 of Rio Tinto Group (LSE:RIO) is 4487. The lower the ERP5 rank, the more undervalued a company is thought to be. The Piotroski F-Score is a scoring system between 1-9 that determines a firm’s financial strength. The score helps determine if a company’s stock is valuable or not. The Piotroski F-Score of Rio Tinto Group (LSE:RIO) is 7. A score of nine indicates a high value stock, while a score of one indicates a low value stock. The score is calculated by the return on assets (ROA), Cash flow return on assets (CFROA), change in return of assets, and quality of earnings. It is also calculated by a change in gearing or leverage, liquidity, and change in shares in issue. The score is also determined by change in gross margin and change in asset turnover. Investors may be interested in viewing the Gross Margin score on shares of Rio Tinto Group (LSE:RIO). The name currently has a score of 40.00000. This score is derived from the Gross Margin (Marx) stability and growth over the previous eight years. The Gross Margin score lands on a scale from 1 to 100 where a score of 1 would be considered positive, and a score of 100 would be seen as negative. Price Index The Price Index is a ratio that indicates the return of a share price over a past period. The price index of Rio Tinto Group (LSE:RIO) for last month was 1.02182. This is calculated by taking the current share price and dividing by the share price one month ago. If the ratio is greater than 1, then that means there has been an increase in price over the month. If the ratio is less than 1, then we can determine that there has been a decrease in price. Similarly, investors look up the share price over 12 month periods. The Price Index 12m for Rio Tinto Group (LSE:RIO) is 1.11648. Price Range 52 Weeks Some of the best financial predictions are formed by using a variety of financial tools. The Price Range 52 Weeks is one of the tools that investors use to determine the lowest and highest price at which a stock has traded in the previous 52 weeks. The Price Range of Rio Tinto Group (LSE:RIO) over the past 52 weeks is 0.946000. The 52-week range can be found in the stock’s quote summary.

[la forge] 09/6/2019 11:06

Rio Tinto plc ($RIO.L)’s EBITDA/Enterprise Value of 0.163224 Placed Under the Microscope Written by John Wilkes × June 9, 2019 As defined in the Little Book that Beats the Market, the earnings yield compares the profit generated with the market’s valuation of the company. It is defined as operating profit divided by enterprise value. Many refer to it as the EBIT/EV (Earnings before interest and tax / Enterprise Value). Rio Tinto plc (RIO.L) has a EBITA/EV of 6.126532. Enterprise value is used by Greenblatt rather than market capitaliation to reflect the competing claims of debt and equity holders on the business. This penalizes companies that carry a lot of debt and little cash, and rewards firms with a lot of cash – a useful distinction not reflected in the P/E ratio. Investors might be looking into the magic eight ball trying to project where the stock market will be heading over the next few months. Some analysts believe that the market is ready to take a bearish turn, but others believe that there is still room for stocks to shoot higher. When the markets do have a sell-off, investors may be tempted to sell winners before they give up previous profits. Sometimes this may be justified, but other times this type of panic selling can cause investors to just have to repurchase shares at a higher price after the recovery. Keeping tabs on the underlying company fundamental data can help provide the investor with a better idea of whether to hold on to a stock or let it go. Value Comp 1 / Value Comp 2 The Value Composite One (VC1) is a method that investors use to determine a company’s value. The VC1 of Rio Tinto plc (RIO.L) is 13. A company with a value of 0 is thought to be an undervalued company, while a company with a value of 100 is considered an overvalued company. The VC1 is calculated using the price to book value, price to sales, EBITDA to EV, price to cash flow, and price to earnings. Similarly, the Value Composite Two (VC2) is calculated with the same ratios, but adds the Shareholder Yield. The Value Composite Two of Rio Tinto plc (RIO.L) is 8. Piotroski F-Score The Piotroski F-Score is a scoring system between 1-9 that determines a firm’s financial strength. The score helps determine if a company’s stock is valuable or not. The Piotroski F-Score of Rio Tinto plc (RIO.L) is 7. A score of nine indicates a high value stock, while a score of one indicates a low value stock. The score is calculated by the return on assets (ROA), Cash flow return on assets (CFROA), change in return of assets, and quality of earnings. It is also calculated by a change in gearing or leverage, liquidity, and change in shares in issue. The score is also determined by change in gross margin and change in asset turnover. After a recent scan, we can see that Rio Tinto plc (RIO.L) has a Shareholder Yield of 0.112804. This is calculated by adding the dividend yield to the percentage of repurchased shares. Shareholder yield has the ability to show how much money the firm is giving back to shareholders via a few different avenues. Companies may issue new shares and buy back their own shares. This may occur at the same time. Investors may also use shareholder yield to gauge a baseline rate of return. NCAV-to-Market Benjamin Graham, professor and founder of value investing principles, was one of the first to consistently screen the market looking for bargain companies based on value factors. He didn’t have databases such as ValueSignals at his disposal, but used people like his apprentice Warren Buffet to fill out stock sheets with the most important data. Graham was always on the watch for firms that were so discounted, that if the company went into liquidation, the proceeds of the assets would still return a profit. The ratio he used to identify these companies was Net Current Asset Value or NCAV. This ratio is much more stringent compared to book value (total assets – total liabilities) and is calculated as follows: NCAV = Current Assets – Total Liabilities Current Assets = Cash & ST Investments + Inventories + Accounts Receivable Graham was only happy if he could buy the company at 2/3 of the NCAV. That’s the sort of margin of safety he was looking for. This strategy was very successful during the years after Graham published it in his book ‘Security analysis’ in 1934 and also in more recent studies it has proven to provide superior results. A study done by the State University of New York to prove the effectiveness of this strategy showed that from the period of 1970 to 1983 an investor could have earned an average return of 29.4%, by purchasing stocks that fulfilled Graham’s requirement and holding them for one year. Nowadays it’s very difficult to find companies that meet Graham’s criteria. We calculate NCAV to Market as follows: NCAV-to-Market Ratio = NCAV divided by Market Cap Rio Tinto plc (RIO.L) has an NCAV to Market value of -0.213435. Watching some historical volatility numbers on shares of Rio Tinto plc (RIO.L), we can see that the 12 month volatility is presently 23.8197. The 6 month volatility is 24.7306, and the 3 month is spotted at 21.728. Following volatility data can help measure how much the stock price has fluctuated over the specified time period. Although past volatility action may help project future stock volatility, it may also be vastly different when taking into account other factors that may be driving price action during the measured time period. Once the individual investor has done all the fundamental homework and found a few stocks that they think are poised to be future winners, they may want to figure out when to best get into the market. Many investors will turn towards technical analysis to accomplish this. Technical analysis can help identify entry and exit points by studying price trends and movements over time. Some technical indicators are very complex and others are very simple. One goal of focusing on technical indicators is to help make confusing price information easier to interpret and understand. Many investors will find signals that they like to follow, but focusing on just one indicator may not provide the full picture of what is really going on. Many investors will combine technical indicators to help round out the spectrum. Although technical analysis can be a very useful tool for the investor, it is important to remember that stock prices are inherently unpredictable. Even the most seasoned investors may have to adjust their charts occasionally if trades are not working out as planned.

[la forge] 09/6/2019 10:15

TURGART THE SO CALLED INTELLIGENCE YOU HAVE SHOWN US THUS FAR, I HEREBY POOPAH GET REAL LIFE ,INVESTMENT IS NOT NON REAL MATHS STATS GAMES GIVE SOME HARD FACTS AND FUNDEMENTALS MAN, TO CONVINCE US TO BUY THIS EXCELLENT SHARE I SEE YOU HAVE IGNORED SOME POSTERS REGARDING A FUNDEMENTALS LIST I DO BELIEVE YOU JUST REPEAT YOUR FAVOURITE INVESTOR SITE WHICH AS IT HAPPENS IS NO PROBLEM FOR ME ITS JUST NOT YOUR ANALYSIS WAITING FOR GODOT AND JULY END

[la forge] 09/6/2019 10:07

Why I’m a buyer of the FTSE 100 after its recent plunge Rupert Hargreaves | Sunday, 9th June, 2019 Close up of newspaper headline for financial crisis news Image source: Getty Images. It has been a rocky 12 months for the FTSE 100. In May 2018, the UK’s leading stock index printed an all-time high of 7,877.4. Since then, the market has fallen by around 7%. This performance is disappointing but, over the past six months, the numbers are much more encouraging. Since the end of 2018, the index has rallied by around 11% from its 52-week low of 6,584. All of the numbers above exclude dividends paid to investors during the respective timeframes. Temporary headwinds The Footsie 100, like many other major indexes, has been falling during the past few weeks due to the escalation of the trade war between the United States and China. President Trump has unveiled a range of new trade restrictions against Asia’s largest economy, and City analysts are starting to speculate that these efforts will translate into a global economic slowdown. This will undoubtedly lead to a decline in corporate profits and falling share prices. To add to these issues, the UK has its own set of problems. Political paralysis in Westminster has only made it harder to predict what the future holds for the UK economy, As a result, investors all over the world are selling UK assets, including the FTSE 100. However, despite all of the above, I believe the FTSE 100 still looks attractive as a long term investment. Look to the long term It is very easy to let daily news flow, such as tariffs threats and the possibility of falling profits, to impact on your investment decisions. But in reality, these factors have a minimal impact on returns over the long term. One of my favourite research documents is Credit Suisse’s Global Investment Returns Yearbook. In this publication, the investment bank’s research analysts consider the performance of global stock markets going back as far as data will allow, which is 119 years for most developed markets. According to the data, between 1900 and 2018, which is one of the most turbulent periods in human history, UK stocks produced an average annualised return for investors of 5.4%, after accounting for inflation. By comparison, cash returned around 1% per annum after adjusting for inflation. It’s difficult to underestimate how important these figures are. They show that no matter how bad things may seem right now, in the majority of the time, equities produce a positive return for investors over the long term, a performance that’s significantly above the gain on cash available during the same period. Sit back and relax Considering the data above, I’m more than happy to keep buying the FTSE 100 today despite all of the doom and gloom in the newspapers. History suggests that no matter what happens over the next one or two years, 10 or 20 years from now, the global economy will be bigger and more developed than it is today. And I think it’s almost a certainty equity prices will be higher a decade from now than where they are currently. ITS ALL IN THE TIMING EVEN SO CALLED GENUISES GET IT WRONG FROM TIME TO TIME AND HAVE TO RUN RUN RUN NAKED DOWN THE LANE LOL

[the grumpy old men] 09/6/2019 09:13

economics Deepening Trade Tensions Pose Threat to World Economy, G-20 Says Bloomberg News 9 juin 2019 à 07:24 UTC+2 Updated on 9 juin 2019 à 09:14 UTC+2 After days of wrangling over the wording of a communique, finance chiefs from the world’s largest economies have warned that escalating trade and geopolitical tensions pose the biggest risk to global growth. In the final draft of a Group of 20 finance statement seen by Bloomberg News, officials said that although growth appears to be stabilizing, it "remains low and risks remain tilted to the downside." You

[waldron] 09/6/2019 06:05

chuckle Turvart its certainly not always about you as the new boy in the hood i think you should tread more softly references could have been about trump oh well good luck with RIO and your thread i will now restrict myself to just one monthly post cheers

[turvart] 08/6/2019 21:49

When you have the IQ of 137 and in the top 5% of the world with intelligence then yes I am superior and yes I have a superiority complex, I am very smug and also arrogant because I know the way the market is going and Rio is going to 5600.

[turvart] 08/6/2019 21:13

La Forge, Other authors have argued that the superiority and inferiority complex cannot both be found in the same individual since an individual with a superiority complex truly believes that he is superior to others. Yes I’m superior to others, that’s exactly what I’m saying! The market is and always will be 1 year behind my thinking!

[la forge] 08/6/2019 18:34

Https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superiority_complex

[waldron] 08/6/2019 17:24

Https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-08/donald-trump-unleashed-animal-spirits-and-then-he-crushed-them?srnd=premium-europe Trump Unleashed Animal Spirits and Then He Crushed Them By Sarah Ponczek , Vildana Hajric , and Liz McCormick 8 juin 2019 à 13:00 UTC+2 30-year yields are as low as when Trump was elected in 2016 Trump’s stock market doesn’t look much different from Obama’s If there was one thing investors thought they knew about Donald Trump, it was that he was on their side. He was the president who was going to reflate the economy, unleash animal spirits and drive up returns. Now that certainty has been demolished by a trade war, and two years of market history is being rewritten. Take Treasuries, where 30-year rates -- which rose a full percentage point to as high as 3.5% -- have plunged so fast that they’re all the way back to where they were on Election Day. Equities are still smartly up, but the rate of gain has slowed to where the Trump stock market isn’t much more buoyant than Barack Obama’s.

[waldron] 08/6/2019 16:52

Does RIO have dams that might be risky

[the grumpy old men] 08/6/2019 13:20

Rio Tinto is a world leader in research, exploration and mining. Net sales (before intercompany eliminations) by family of products break down as follows: - iron ores (49%): 290.8 Mt produced in 2018; - aluminum (29.7%): 50.4 Mt of bauxite, 8 Mt of alumina and 3.5 Mt of aluminum produced; - copper (5.9%): 633.5 Kt produced; IRON ORE 49 PERCENT I WONDER WHAT PERCENT FOR 2019

[the grumpy old men] 08/6/2019 12:52

Https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/shortcuts/2019/mar/04/does-having-a-higher-iq-than-einstein-guarantee-success The Mensa spokeswoman claims there is a strong correlation between high IQ and good health, longevity and career success, but she also accepts a high IQ can produce social isolation. One of Mensa’s aims is to bring together “gifted” children because their general cohort may find them a little odd. I know many chess players who are brilliant problem-solvers but can barely cope with “real” life. What is intelligence? That remains the key, unanswered question. Being streetwise goes a long way

[sarkasm] 08/6/2019 12:34

Turvart 8 Jun '19 - 12:58 - 357 of 358 0 0 0 Sarkasm , I’ve traded with CMC Markets and I’ve took those so called robots to the cleaners, those robots are pure muppets, think human, they can’t, I hit them with so many 500 trades they thought I was a robot and then I went into the kill with so many more 500 trades and the robots didn’t know how to take it LOL, I’m no muppet mate so start to realise it, I have an IQ of 137 not quite Mensa but in the top 5% of the world. TURVART GIVE US A BREAK FROM YOUR DAILY BOASTING SHAME REALLY THAT YOU HAVE TO CONTINUALLY SAY HOW GREAT YOU ARE AND OTHERS LIMITED THE MORE YOU DO IT THE LESS WE ARE IMPRESSED YOU TALK MORE ABOUT YOURSELF MORE THAN THE SHARES FUNDEMENTALS WHICH AS HAPPENS IS RARE

[turvart] 08/6/2019 12:12

It doesn’t matter how you program a robot, if Einstein programmed those robots, you won’t beat Human intelligence, I was once told there are several ways to skin a cat and it’s so true.

[turvart] 08/6/2019 11:58

Sarkasm , I’ve traded with CMC Markets and I’ve took those so called robots to the cleaners, those robots are pure muppets, think human, they can’t, I hit them with so many 500 trades they thought I was a robot and then I went into the kill with so many more 500 trades and the robots didn’t know how to take it LOL, I’m no muppet mate so start to realise it, I have an IQ of 137 not quite Mensa but in the top 5% of the world. Cheers!

[sarkasm] 08/6/2019 09:34

Turvart 7 Jun '19 - 19:58 - 348 of 355 0 0 0 I’m not a lazy person and no disrespect to brokers but I don’t listen because I consider it noise! Turvart 7 Jun '19 - 20:01 - 349 of 355 0 0 0 We Gentlemen are going to 5600 by next May 👍 Turvart 7 Jun '19 - 20:14 - 350 of 355 0 0 0 Imo this will be a hard brexit just remember Rio is an Aussie company so Rio has nothing to do with Brexit on a technicality point of view, so this will be down to cable and cable could in fact be 115 so 5600 could actually be an understatement from me with insight and Barclays will go into silence. Turvart i feel Brexit does have an impact albeit perhaps small due to the impact on the ftse and confidence just like the impact, once brexit out of the way towards the end of the year on sterling another thing is that apparently more than 80pc of trades and many srticles are done by algo robots not humanbeans perhaps barclays depends on robots to determine its targets if trump wants a second term later this year he must give the markets hope have a great weekend

[maywillow] 08/6/2019 05:41

Turvart are you going dotty relax now and enjoy this luverly weekend